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Hi, Dave. Love the Tanfield Railway photo's, and the photo's of Dent are real classics. It is good to see the 45's powering through Dent, something that is no longer possible.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

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Hi David,

 

The peaks in J0933 and J1319  are on the down Thames-Clyde - 1S68. The Waverley was 1S64.

 

Howie

 

Many thanks Howie

 

I should know that!  I have written caption for the Thames Clyde lots of times both on here and flickr so goodness knows why I got it wrong this time (again).

 

David

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HI David

 

Are you sure it is D12 in J1319. D12 was one of the first five Class 45s and was fitted nose doors as in J0933. D11-15 were all rebuilt with class 46 nose ends and the little triangular grille at midships.

 

It could be D22, that was a split headcode loco and was allocated to Holbeck so would have been a S&C loco.

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David,

 

In J932, is it just the light or is the first vehicle in Green - there doesn't appear to be any lining either (clearly visible on the second vehicle)

Was about to ask the same question, it does look very much like its green

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HI David

 

Are you sure it is D12 in J1319. D12 was one of the first five Class 45s and was fitted nose doors as in J0933. D11-15 were all rebuilt with class 46 nose ends and the little triangular grille at midships.

 

It could be D22, that was a split headcode loco and was allocated to Holbeck so would have been a S&C loco.

 

 

That's the one I was least sure about.  It could well have been D22.

 

David

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David,

 

In J932, is it just the light or is the first vehicle in Green - there doesn't appear to be any lining either (clearly visible on the second vehicle)

 

 

Was about to ask the same question, it does look very much like its green

 

 

Yes, it really is green.  The second coach is maroon, the third is blue/grey.  Both the first and second coach are carrying roofboards.  The headcode is wrong for it, but according to Dad's notes the time he took the photo was around the time the Thames Clyde was due.  A bit of a mystery.

 

In the previous year's working timetable 1M91 was the headcode for an Edinburgh (dep 11.55) to St Pancras working, from June to end Sept.

 

David

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Yes, it really is green.  The second coach is maroon, the third is blue/grey.  Both the first and second coach are carrying roofboards.  The headcode is wrong for it, but according to Dad's notes the time he took the photo was around the time the Thames Clyde was due.  A bit of a mystery.

 

In the previous year's working timetable 1M91 was the headcode for an Edinburgh (dep 11.55) to St Pancras working, from June to end Sept.

 

David

At about that time, some BR(S) BSKs were transferred to BR(E) vice (can't remember type) coaches being used in the formation of 3 and 4TC units. Headcode 1M91 was the 'up' Waverley at that time AFAIK.

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Hello, David, everyone.

 

Regarding the green Mk.1 coaching stock, I believe that once electification (third rail) had reached Bournemouth in 1967, most, if not all, of the non-ETH stock was transferred to the LMR which was desperately short of such assets.

 

I can remember seeing a green Mk.1 near Derby with a definite 'M' prefix, not 'S', and upon consulting my 1962 ABC, I found it listed with an 'S' prefix, resulting in one very confused little boy.

 

Cheers,

 

BR(W).

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The last batch from the Tanfield Railway for now.

 

 

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DSC_6664 Andrews House Mech Navvies 71515

 

 

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DSC_6667 Andrews House Mech Navvies 71515

 

 

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DSC_6674 Andrews House Cochrane

 

 

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DSC_6676 Andrews House Cochrane

 

 

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DSC_6681 Andrews House Mech Navvies 71515

 

 

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DSC_6685 Andrews House Mech Navvies 71515

 

 

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Shame those kettles keep getting in the way of the rolling stock Dave, some nice vent vans being obliterated, but nice pics all the same.

 

Mike.

 

 

A few recent wagon photos at Tanfield.  I do have a lot more both at Tanfield and elsewhere which will eventually appear as I add photos here.

 

 

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DSC_6049 Marley Hill

 

 

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DSC_6050 Marley Hill

 

 

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DSC_6528 Marley Hill No2

 

 

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DSC_6539 Marley Hill

 

 

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Hi, Dave. Excellent photo's of the Tanfield Railway, and I especially like those wagon photo's. It really is good to see the former NER 20 ton hoppers.

 

A great set of photo's posted of Peterborough - very different from the layout set in 1958...  I like the way, in photo' C1697, of a class 101 and class 47, that on the class 101 DMU, you can see ''underneath'' the blue paint in that the former cream lining shows up as three lines of ''banding''. Then in photo' C1714 which is of another class 101 unit, on a service to Norwich, I see that the blue squares of the coupling code have 'LW'  - for 'lightweight' stencilled upon them. Surely this must be an error, for these Metro-cammell DMU's were of a different specification to the earlier 'lightweights' with the ''yellow diamond'' coupling code.

 

All the best,

 

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I'm not sure why this 101 has LW markings, I think I may have read somewhere that101s were strengthed in the 1970s so were no longer classed as lightweight, this was to do with how much weight could be placed behind the dmu when being hauled as part other a train.

The 101 lookalikes often refered to as met cam lightweights had all gone by 1969/70 and had high level yellow diamond multi working sockets and a valence under the buffer beams

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Hi, Dave. Excellent photo's of the Tanfield Railway, and I especially like those wagon photo's. It really is good to see the former NER 20 ton hoppers.

 

A great set of photo's posted of Peterborough - very different from the layout set in 1958...  I like the way, in photo' C1697, of a class 101 and class 47, that on the class 101 DMU, you can see ''underneath'' the blue paint in that the former cream lining shows up as three lines of ''banding''. Then in photo' C1714 which is of another class 101 unit, on a service to Norwich, I see that the blue squares of the coupling code have 'LW'  - for 'lightweight' stencilled upon them. Surely this must be an error, for these Metro-cammell DMU's were of a different specification to the earlier 'lightweights' with the ''yellow diamond'' coupling code.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

 

 

I'm not sure why this 101 has LW markings, I think I may have read somewhere that101s were strengthed in the 1970s so were no longer classed as lightweight, this was to do with how much weight could be placed behind the dmu when being hauled as part other a train.

The 101 lookalikes often refered to as met cam lightweights had all gone by 1969/70 and had high level yellow diamond multi working sockets and a valence under the buffer beams

 

 

The only reference I can find about "LW" markings on dmus is in the Scottish Region Sectional Appendix (mine is from 1969).

 

Unbder "Working of multiple unit diesel trains" it states:

 

1. A weight of more than 75 tones (including tail traffic vehicles) must not be permitted behind the drawgear of the last operative motor car marked LW.

 

2 Where the last operative motor car is not marked LW this restriction applies to the leading drawgear of any vehicle marked LW coupled behind it.

 

3. Where a vehicle marked LW is being hauled DEAD in  a loco hauled train, the limit of 75 tons will apply to the leading drawgear of that vehicle.

 

4. The instructions are based on drawgear considerations only.   Local limitations of tail traffic due to power, gradients and train timings will be specified individually as required.

 

5. Where vehicles are not marked LW normal coaching stock practices apply so far as drawgear loading is concerned.

 

The Eastern Region (Southern area) Sectional Appendix from 1st Oct 1972 does not mention "LW" but gives extensive details of tail loads for different types of dmu with allowable tailoads ranging from 17 to 72 tons gross.

 

 

 

I think the Bachmann plain blue 108 has "LW" on it's blue squares.

 

David

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Hi, Dave. Thank you for that information about the LW markings. It is very interesting, and I think that I may well be adding the LW's to the plain blue 101 from Bachmann.

 

All the best,

 

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Shame those kettles keep getting in the way of the rolling stock Dave, some nice vent vans being obliterated, but nice pics all the same.

 

Mike.

 

A few more wagons visible in my Tanfield pictures over here: 

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/100395-tanfield-railway-legends-of-steam-event-2015/

 

(in case you hadn't already seen them)

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A quick visit to Peterborough in July 1974 this evening.

 

 

attachicon.gifPeterborough Class 101 and Class 47 Newcastle to Kings X 27th July 74 C1697.jpg

Peterborough Class 101 and Class 47 Newcastle to Kings X 27th July 74 C1697

 

 

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Peterborough Class 55 Edinburgh to Kings X 27th July 74 C1703

 

 

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Peterborough Class 47 down ex pass 27th July 74 C1704

 

 

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Peterborough Class 101 Peterborough to Norwich 27th July 74 C1714

 

 

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Peterborough wedding party and Class 47 up ex pass behind 27th July 74 C1730

 

 

David

 

An interesting set of pictures from Peterborough, showing the transitional period after the new (1970s) island platform had been built but when the original buildings remained in use on the Up side.

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This afternoon's photos were taken at the Kent and East Sussex Railway in the 1970s.

 

On my earlier visits the line only ran from Tenterden to Rolvenden, in 1977 it was extended to Wittersham Road.

 

 

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Tenterden Hunslet 23 Holman F Stephens 19th June 76 C2793

 

 

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Tenterden Peckett 0-4-0T 12 Marcia Sept 78 C4135

 

 

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Tenterden Terrier 10 Sutton 26th Dec 79 C4916

 

 

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Rolvenden Manning Wardle 17 Arthur ex APCM Aug 75 C2403

 

 

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Rolvenden Terrier 3 Bodiam Aug 75 C2399

 

 

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Wittersham Road Hunslet 24 William Austen July 79 C4626

 

 

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