Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[talisman56]

Hello, David, everyone.

 

Regarding the green Mk.1 coaching stock, I believe that once electification (third rail) had reached Bournemouth in 1967, most, if not all, of the non-ETH stock was transferred to the LMR which was desperately short of such assets.

 

I can remember seeing a green Mk.1 near Derby with a definite 'M' prefix, not 'S', and upon consulting my 1962 ABC, I found it listed with an 'S' prefix, resulting in one very confused little boy.

 

Cheers,

 

BR(W).

 

In reply to the above (and previous replies) regarding the Green BSK at Dent, I have narrowed the identity down to one of two possibilities, namely 34260 or 34265, both of which were transferred to LMR in Sept 1967 [source: Longworth, BR Mk1 and Mk2 Coaching Stock]. The quantity of BSKs transferred as a result of becoming surplus due to the Bournemouth electrification was very few, as the conversion itself consumed 32 BSKs, entirely from SR stock.

Edited June 28, 2015 by talisman56

[jonny777]

Excellent K&ESR photos David.

 

I love C2399, which nowadays shows a practice that would not be allowed.  My father, who used to volunteer on the GCR, discovered that smoking is not allowed on the footplate as it is considered to be a place of work.  He will be 92 in 6 weeks time and cites this kind of rule as an example of the world having gone completely mad, and he means it.

Edited June 28, 2015 by jonny777

[DaveF]

This evening's photos are a few more from the Cambrian Coat line taken on holidays in the area.

 

For some reason I captioned 6 photos for today!

 

 

Ynyslas Class 120 Aberystwyth to Machynlleth 7th Aug 79 C4720

 

 

Tywyn Classes 108 and 101 Pwlhelli to Machynlleth July 82 C5767

 

 

Barmouth Class 103? Machynlleth to Pwlhelli 9th Aug 793 C4764

 

 

Tygwyn view north 24th July 02 C25990

 

 

Tygwyn view south 24th July 02 C25989

 

 

Criccieth Central trains 158782 up pass 25th July 01 C25412

 

 

David

Edited June 28, 2015 by DaveF

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi Dave

 

In C4764 the unit looks like a Park Royal class 103 not a Gloucester class 100.

[DaveF]

Hi Dave

 

In C4764 the unit looks like a Park Royal class 103 not a Gloucester class 100.

 

 

Many thanks Clive, I think you are right.

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Lovely photo's of the Kent and East Sussex Railway - more please.  Then some good photo's of the scenic Cambrian Coast line. In that photo' C4764, at Barmouth, the unit is a class 103. Here is the history of the class 103's from the Railcar website:http://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-103/index.php

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. Lovely photo's of the Kent and East Sussex Railway - more please.  Then some good photo's of the scenic Cambrian Coast line. In that photo' C4764, at Barmouth, the unit is a class 103. Here is the history of the class 103's from the Railcar website:http://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-103/index.php

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

 

 

Many thanks.  That site will prove useful as I continue working through my photos.

 

There will be more KESR photos from time to time - I think I have around 100 photos from the 1970s, so far there are (I think) around 35 on this thread.

 

David

Edited June 28, 2015 by DaveF

[Enterprisingwestern]

In reply to the above (and previous replies) regarding the Green BSK at Dent, I have narrowed the identity down to one of two possibilities, namely 34260 or 34265, both of which were transferred to LMR in Sept 1967 [source: Longworth, BR Mk1 and Mk2 Coaching Stock]. The quantity of BSKs transferred as a result of becoming surplus due to the Bournemouth electrification was very few, as the conversion itself consumed 32 BSKs, entirely from SR stock.

 

I would advise caution on the transfer dates in the book, 34264 is down as transferred 4/68 but was at Nunnery 3/68 and probably earlier than that.

 

Mike.

[uax6]

C5767 shows that the Met-cam sets held onto their original gutter layout (just over the doors) for a long time. I thought that they had all got full gutters by the time they were in blue and grey...

 

Andy G

[67A]

Hi Dave,

 

Fabulous shots of Dent the other day, I have been so busy I'm running late with everything recently but these photos will assist even more in my own portrayal, many thanks for sharing, really appreciated.

[brushman47544]

A quick visit to Peterborough in July 1974 this evening.

 

 

Peterborough Class 101 and Class 47 Newcastle to Kings X 27th July 74 C1697.jpg

Peterborough Class 101 and Class 47 Newcastle to Kings X 27th July 74 C1697

 

 

Peterborough Class 55 Edinburgh to Kings X 27th July 74 C1703.jpg

Peterborough Class 55 Edinburgh to Kings X 27th July 74 C1703

 

 

Keep them coming please Dave; especially these early blue diesels.

 

C1697 - the Class 47 is probably 47404 (rather than 414). It appears to have an ETH cable on the buffer beam which position was unique to the Generators (401-420) at that time.

 

C1703 - the low nameplate position gives this Deltic away as 55008 The Green Howards.

[talisman56]

I would advise caution on the transfer dates in the book, 34264 is down as transferred 4/68 but was at Nunnery 3/68 and probably earlier than that.

 

Mike.

 

I know, sometimes the paperwork takes time to catch up with real life and sometimes the paperwork is delayed or not actioned for some reason. At least under BR the dates are at least reasonably accurate. Under the SR and certainly LBSC of its constituent companies, rolling stock changes were only reported every 6 months...

[DaveF]

Some electrics and a diesel around Hillmorton for today.

 

 

Hillmorton Class 45 Euston to Manchester Sept 63 J066

 

 

Hillmorton Class 85 E3062 08.27 Manchester - Birmingham - Euston Sept 68 J1452

 

 

Hillmorton Class 86 Euston to ? May 72_J2946

 

 

Hillmorton Class 47 hauling Class 81 Birmingham to Euston June 75 J4366

The 81 is dead.

 

 

Hillmorton Classes 86 and 82 Motorail Inverness to Kensington Olympia March 79 J6407

The 82 is dead, its pantograph is down.

 

 

David

Edited June 29, 2015 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Really have enjoyed looking at the photo's of Hillmorton, some classic portrayals of the WCML. In photo' J4366, with a 47 hauling an 81, in June, 1975, I'm sure that the 81 must be dead, especially with the pantograph down.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. Really have enjoyed looking at the photo's of Hillmorton, some classic portrayals of the WCML. In photo' J4366, with a 47 hauling an 81, in June, 1975, I'm sure that the 81 must be dead, especially with the pantograph down.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

 

 

I forgot to add that bit! - At least I remembered it for the other one which was dead.

 

David

[DY444]

 

C1697 - the Class 47 is probably 47404 (rather than 414). It appears to have an ETH cable on the buffer beam which position was unique to the Generators (401-420) at that time.

 

 

414 was a generator too .....

Edited June 29, 2015 by DY444

[brushman47544]

414 was a generator too .....

 

err.. that's what I was saying..  The number is blurred, but between 404 and 414 the blur looks more like 404.

[DaveF]

A few from Didcot in 1979, taken on the day I visited the Railway Centre.  The light wasn't too good while I was looking at the main line trains.

 

 

Didcot Class 117 dmu Paddington to Oxford May 79 C4503

For some reason I didn't make a note of the class at the time.

 

 

Didcot 253006 up May 79 C4505

 

 

Didcot Class 47 up special May 79 C4507

 

 

Didcot Class 47 Oxford to Paddington May 79 C4532

 

 

Didcot 253013 up May 79 C4548

Edited June 30, 2015 by DaveF

[The Stationmaster]

The dmu at Didcot is the good old London Division staple - Pressed Steel set, Class 117

 

Quite amazing when you think how much the place has changed since then (although I'm one of the 'culprits' at that end) but even comparing 1979 with the early half of the 1960s there was also a tremendous difference - seems to be the thing about 'change' - it keeps happening in some places.

[jonny777]

C4507 I can't be sure, but at that time there were some semi-fasts from Cardiff that ran in between the faster Swansea HST services, and stopped at most larger stations, even at Slough and Ealing Broadway on some occasions. They were occasionally formed of Mk1s. I used to catch these deliberately because they slowed down in all of the interesting places from a spotting point of view.

 

The 47 may be on one of those services. Occasionally, I even had a 50 up front.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's of Didcot. That photo' C4503 does indeed show a class 117 unit. The car details are: DMBS - 51360, TCL - 59512, DMS - 51402. Full details here at the railcar website: http://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-117/set-numbers.php

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's of Didcot. That photo' C4503 does indeed show a class 117 unit. The car details are: DMBS - 51360, TCL - 59512, DMS - 51402. Full details here at the railcar website: http://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-117/set-numbers.php

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

 

 

The dmu at Didcot is the good old London Division staple - Pressed Steel set, Class 117

 

Quite amazing when you think how much the place has changed since then (although I'm one of the 'culprits' at that end) but even comparing 1979 with the early half of the 1960s there was also a tremendous difference - seems to be the thing about 'change' - it keeps happening in some places.

 

Many thanks to both of you for the identification.

 

Sometimes I wonder if I want to go back to places now they look so different!

 

David

[corneliuslundie]

Lovely photo of Barmouth, unusually with the tide in. Had several enjoyable holidays in the area about that time.

 

Jonathan

[eastwestdivide]

C4507 I can't be sure, but at that time there were some semi-fasts from Cardiff that ran in between the faster Swansea HST services, and stopped at most larger stations, even at Slough and Ealing Broadway on some occasions. They were occasionally formed of Mk1s. I used to catch these deliberately because they slowed down in all of the interesting places from a spotting point of view.

 

The 47 may be on one of those services. Occasionally, I even had a 50 up front.

Possibly also a Fishguard boat train? My 1978 timetable has it up through Didcot some time around 1800 if that's any help.

That timetable doesn't seem to show any non-HST semi-fasts from Cardiff, only a 2-hourly HST between Cardiff-London, calling Newport-Parkway-Swindon-DIdcot-Reading-Slough-Padd, unlike the hourly Swansea HSTs which were shown from Cardiff as either Newport-Parkway-Reading-London or even Newport fast to London (in 1h32).

 

Enlarging the photo it might have a paper train ID number in the first coach as some special trains did (e.g. 1Znn where nn are numbers). There are definitely passengers in the first coach, and possibly some of those "reserved compartment" stickers on the windows. Maybe.

[DaveF]

Possibly also a Fishguard boat train? My 1978 timetable has it up through Didcot some time around 1800 if that's any help.

That timetable doesn't seem to show any non-HST semi-fasts from Cardiff, only a 2-hourly HST between Cardiff-London, calling Newport-Parkway-Swindon-DIdcot-Reading-Slough-Padd, unlike the hourly Swansea HSTs which were shown from Cardiff as either Newport-Parkway-Reading-London or even Newport fast to London (in 1h32).

 

Enlarging the photo it might have a paper train ID number in the first coach as some special trains did (e.g. 1Znn where nn are numbers). There are definitely passengers in the first coach, and possibly some of those "reserved compartment" stickers on the windows. Maybe.

 

It would have been long before 1800.  From the image number I took it before I went into the Steam Centre, so it wouldhave been mid morning.  Such shadows as are visible on the cooling towers also suggest morning.  But thanks for the suggestion.

 

It seems to have been one of "those" days when I made very few notes as my slide catalogue has very little detail of the BR stock I saw.

 

David

Edited June 30, 2015 by DaveF