RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 10, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) Little Bytham on the ECML today in the early 1970s. Little Bytham Class 40 down March 71 J2528 Little Bytham Class 47 poss 1515 down May 71 J2652 11.30 Kings X to Harrogate probably 1st May Little Bytham Class 55 9018 Kings X to Newcastle May 71 J2654 11.30 Kings X to Harrogate Little Bytham Class 47 1973 down May 71 J2657 12.00 Kings X to Aberdeen Little Bytham Class 47 1940 up Jan 72 J2808 With thanks again to Mark54. David Edited July 10, 2017 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Those train in the landscape photos are such a treat... 1940 (photo J2808) was a D02 (Birmingham Division) loco, probably not so common on the southern part of the ECML, and an interesting short train... Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted July 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2017 Just catching up after a long weekend away. I was one of the stewards getting wet at Dent on the GreenArrow trip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Little Bytham photos. J2957 of 1973, a class 47, is a classic from track level that your Father took that day. And in J2654, Deltic 9018 makes a great sight at the head of a Newcastle train in May, 1971. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1L20 was the 14:20 KX-York. The formation indicates it was the Saturday train and as the CWN ended on the 2nd May and the formation changed. Logically it must have been 1st May 1971. 1L13 was the 11:30 KX-Harrogate. Again formation indicates the Saturday train (and presumably a later date than 1L20). 1S32 was the 12:00 KX-Aberdeen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) J2652: the positioning of the data panel and shed sticker on the cabside is very non-standard (in blue livery they were normally under the running number) - in fact I don't even recall seeing one with them in this position, although I must have done, as I used to see the 'Generators' on an almost daily basis throughout the Seventies. It's also interesting that this loco is subject to some RTC experiments, with at least two white, engraved detail plates affixed to the bottom of the cab door. I've done some ferreting and identified this photo of 1513 slightly later in 1971, with the data panel and shed sticker on the cabside and a similar pattern of experiment plates. Unfortunately I can't find any photo of 1515 at that time (with them being so common I didn't tend to photograph them often myself, annoyingly!) to cross-reference. I used to record details of the experiments being carried out on locos and had a few pages of notes with them all listed - inevitably I have no idea where they are at the moment but I'll keep looking! Whilst not fully discounting 1515, it could possibly be 1513. http://class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0662050000200 Edited July 11, 2017 by 35A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT3 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 J2808 is very interesting, I had often wondered how far into the 70s did maroon coaching stock last, so the two vehicles in that rake are quite a surprise. Cant say I have seen any other maroon coaches in the pics that late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2017 Those train in the landscape photos are such a treat... 1940 (photo J2808) was a D02 (Birmingham Division) loco, probably not so common on the southern part of the ECML, and an interesting short train... Bill Going on the headcode and stock, this is a special, Derby was probably the only place at this date to have a number of maroon coaches, so could it have been an RTC test train? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 11, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) Barnetby for today's photos, some of which are a bit more recent than usual. Barnetby 56091 down empty coal 30th May 91 C15859 Barnetby 150107 Cleethorpes to Newark 30th May 91 C15891 Barnetby 56094 up coal 26th July 2000 C25013 Barnetby 158761 Cleethorpes to Manchester 26th July 2000 C25015 Barnetby EWS 66019 westbound Aug 08 DSC4793 Barnetby rear of down oil train 11th Aug 77 C3473 Edited to add an image. David Edited July 11, 2017 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Barnetby photos. It's good to see the semaphore signals, what a fine sight they made. In C25013, 56094 makes a splendid sight at the head of an up coal train. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Going on the headcode and stock, this is a special, Derby was probably the only place at this date to have a number of maroon coaches, so could it have been an RTC test train? Mike. G was the headcode for a special train local to the ER Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 J2652: the positioning of the data panel and shed sticker on the cabside is very non-standard (in blue livery they were normally under the running number) - in fact I don't even recall seeing one with them in this position, although I must have done, as I used to see the 'Generators' on an almost daily basis throughout the Seventies. It's also interesting that this loco is subject to some RTC experiments, with at least two white, engraved detail plates affixed to the bottom of the cab door. I've done some ferreting and identified this photo of 1513 slightly later in 1971, with the data panel and shed sticker on the cabside and a similar pattern of experiment plates. Unfortunately I can't find any photo of 1515 at that time (with them being so common I didn't tend to photograph them often myself, annoyingly!) to cross-reference. I used to record details of the experiments being carried out on locos and had a few pages of notes with them all listed - inevitably I have no idea where they are at the moment but I'll keep looking! Whilst not fully discounting 1515, it could possibly be 1513. http://class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0662050000200 The white mod/experiment plates don't always have anything to do with the RTC, most of these mods were CMEE or Regional mods. Al Taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 12, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Newcastle photos taken over a period of about 12 years today. Newcastle King Edward Bridge May 74 J3711 The old Redheugh bridge is in the distance. Newcastle right Class 101 from coast left Class 101 from South Shields May 74 J3714 Newcastle Class 101 Middlesbrough to Newcastle on High Level Bridge Aug 82 C5815 Newcastle Class 101 Newcastle to Hexham 31 Dec 84 C6673 Newcastle 143023 Morpeth to Newcastle 2nd Aug 86 C7809 David Edited July 12, 2017 by DaveF 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Newcastle photos taken over a period of about 12 years today. Newcastle King Edward Brdige May 74 J3711.jpg Newcastle King Edward Bridge May 74 J3711 The old Redheugh bridge is in the distance. Newcastle right Class 101 to coast left Class 101 from South Shields May 74 J3714.jpg Newcastle right Class 101 to coast left Class 101 from South Shields May 74 J3714 Newcastle Class 101 Middlesbrough to Newcastle on High Level Bridge Aug 82 C5815.jpg Newcastle Class 101 Middlesbrough to Newcastle on High Level Bridge Aug 82 C5815 Newcastle Class 101 Newcastle to Hexham 31 Dec 84 C6673.jpg Newcastle Class 101 Newcastle to Hexham 31 Dec 84 C6673 Newcastle 143023 Morpeth to Newcastle 2nd Aug 86 C7809.jpg Newcastle 143023 Morpeth to Newcastle 2nd Aug 86 C7809 David Nice set of photos as usual David. Thank you for sharing them. Just one point. In photo J3714 , the right hand Cl 101 is arriving from the coast rather than going, as it has a tail lamp on the back. Although that does not always mean a lot if they forgot to swap it around, it is driverless as well if heading out of Newcastle. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 12, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 Nice set of photos as usual David. Thank you for sharing them. Just one point. In photo J3714 , the right hand Cl 101 is arriving from the coast rather than going, as it has a tail lamp on the back. Although that does not always mean a lot if they forgot to swap it around, it is driverless as well if heading out of Newcastle. Paul J. Thanks for letting me know - I have no idea why I got it wrong, Dad's notes had it going in the correct direction. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 Hi, Dave. What a great set of photos of Newcastle today. J3714 is superb, showing, as always from that vantage point, the track layout in full. A good number of 101's to see too. All changed now of course - the track layout is greatly simplified, the ECML is electrified, and there are no more 101's in use. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 Nice set of photos as usual David. Thank you for sharing them. Just one point. In photo J3714 , the right hand Cl 101 is arriving from the coast rather than going, as it has a tail lamp on the back. Although that does not always mean a lot if they forgot to swap it around, it is driverless as well if heading out of Newcastle. Paul J. You wouldn't get past the first railwayman that saw you and reported it to the panel if you forgot, so you didn't forget. More common was drivers forgetting to turn loco tail lights off when changing ends or when coupling to trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2017 And yet, like I've mentioned before, in my signature there is a link to a photo of a Cravens DMU at Market Weighton, on the last day of trains between Hull and York in November, 1965. The tail lamp can be clearly seen on the cab front, it had run through from York. Whether the next signalman in East box would pull the train up I don't know. With best regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2017 the amazing thing about Newcastle is that even that layout is a simplification of earlier years. there were lines more lines crossing from the right with all the famous diamond crossings (and 3rd rail as well!) found this completely by chance (doesn't change much till the '90s) - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/watch-fascinating-journey-through-time-11152547 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2017 Back to Scotland today with photos taken around Craigendoran. Craigendoran Junction Class 101 Glasgow QS to Oban Aug 73 J3332 Craigendoran Class 303 043 Helensburgh to Airdrie Aug 73 J3333 Craigendoran bridge over A814 July 74 J3856 Craigendoran Junction Class 20 up freight July 74 J3857 Craigendoran Junction Class 20 on extreme left July 74 J3858 David 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Always loved the castle as a railway viewing platform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Craigendoran photos. J3333 of 303043 shows how well designed the class 303 cab end was - a shame they later on had to be modified. And, at that station, it's interesting that there are two lines at different levels. I don't think there are many stations like that. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I would love to see the 303 at Boness in rolling condition. Run it as a push-pull set for special occasions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 it's easy to have ideas like that when you aren't the one who actually has to do it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Great pictures of Craigendoran as it was; The station is reduced to one platform now as the line from the junction to Helensburgh Central is single track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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