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The linkspan itself is listed, though, I believe?  I'm not sure how far that extends to the supporting infrastructure.

 

In the 1990s I sometimes had cause to visit Harwich Town station in the course of my work, and was told by the staff there that the train ferry link span was retained for strategic reasons.  At that time (as I remember), the railway infrastructure leading to it had been reduced to a single line running across a new road without any proper level crossing and through a very solid new security fence (can't remember whether or not there were gates in the fence).  In other words, it COULD have been put into use in an emergency but couldn't be used regularly. The 1998 Quail map shows this simplified layout, but the 2006 version doesn't show any sidings at Harwich Town at all.  I wonder whether the end of the Cold War had anything to do with it?

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In the 1990s I sometimes had cause to visit Harwich Town station in the course of my work, and was told by the staff there that the train ferry link span was retained for strategic reasons.  At that time (as I remember), the railway infrastructure leading to it had been reduced to a single line running across a new road without any proper level crossing and through a very solid new security fence (can't remember whether or not there were gates in the fence).  In other words, it COULD have been put into use in an emergency but couldn't be used regularly. The 1998 Quail map shows this simplified layout, but the 2006 version doesn't show any sidings at Harwich Town at all.  I wonder whether the end of the Cold War had anything to do with it?

The Harwich train ferry ended in 1987 when services were concentrated on Dover as part of a BR rationalisation scheme.  The linkspan and hoist at Harwich have considerable historic interest having been recovered from the kit originally in use elsewhere (Southampton and Richborough) during WWI and unlike Dover could only work a single deck on the ship thus offering much less capacity.  

 

Effectively any rail need vanished with the opening of the Channel Tunnel in 1994 although it was hoped at the time that the Dover-Dunkerque ferry would survive for traffics which are not allowed in the Chunnel - it didn't.

 

The rail connection to the Harwich linkspan had the new Trinity House buoy maintenance workshop built on top of it in 2005 as part of the modernisation of TH facilities at Harwich;  Google Streetview shows just how effectively that building blocks it.

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I have a feeling the Harwich linkspan gear came from Richborough - via the seabed, it sank while being transferred - while the Southampton gear went to Zeebrugge.  I may have that the wrong way round - see Ransome-Wallis, Train Ferries of Northern Europe for chapter and verse.

 

It's always puzzled me why the French didn't show more interest in the idea after WW1.

 

Their strategic importance has always been realised: Hitler issued orders that the Zeebrugge and Harwich train ferry berths were to be left undamaged and built new railway wagons to the UK loading gauge in 1940 for expected traffic which never materialised.  I'm pretty sure I've read that the order regarding the Zeebrugge linkspan was never rescinded and it was left undamaged in a wrecked port when the Allies captured it although it was 1947 before ferries could access it again.

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I have a feeling the Harwich linkspan gear came from Richborough - via the seabed, it sank while being transferred - while the Southampton gear went to Zeebrugge.  I may have that the wrong way round - see Ransome-Wallis, Train Ferries of Northern Europe for chapter and verse.

 

It's always puzzled me why the French didn't show more interest in the idea after WW1.

 

Their strategic importance has always been realised: Hitler issued orders that the Zeebrugge and Harwich train ferry berths were to be left undamaged and built new railway wagons to the UK loading gauge in 1940 for expected traffic which never materialised.  I'm pretty sure I've read that the order regarding the Zeebrugge linkspan was never rescinded and it was left undamaged in a wrecked port when the Allies captured it although it was 1947 before ferries could access it again.

According to one online source the Harwich installation was part Southampton (which sank enroute and was only partially recovered) plus part from Richborough to replace what was lying on the seabed.  

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A highly informative site here - will need translating, but includes a working model of a train ferry - and a page devoted to the wreck of HMS Daffodil (Train Ferry No 2) here.

 

I'll try to remind myself what Dr Ransome Wallis had to say about linkspans this evening, without diverting Dave's thread too far.

 

Edit - Ransome-Wallis doesn't mention the sinking, but does say that the span from Southampton and the gantry from Richborough were installed at Harwich, while the Richborough linkspan went to Zeebrugge.

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A few from Greenholme, part of the way up Shap heading north from Tebay, for this afternoon.

 

 

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Greenholme DRS 66429 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4409

 

 

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Greenholme 390 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4418

 

 

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Greenholme Class 390 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4422

 

 

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Greenholme Class 390 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4423

 

 

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Greenholme Cass 221 up Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4429

 

 

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Greenholme 350407 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4433

 

Edit: Just ignore the Sunday 28th on the actual image files, I forgot which day it was when I captioned them.  Monday 29th is correct.

David

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Hi, Dave. Outstanding photo's today. Again, terrific views of the WCML as it was in late September.

 

Then we have great photo's of Belvoir Junction and the branch to the iron ore quarries.Good weathering of the two class 20's can be seen in the first photo' J1517. Then in C303, at Stenwith, near Woolsthorpe, another two 20's make their way along the branch through some lovely countryside. Excellent shots of various industrial loco's are then to be seen - all modellable. I particularly like the one of the rebuilt Drewery diesel 'Phoenix', in photo' J3235.

 

Please keep these photo's coming.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

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A look at Belvoir Junction and the branch line to the iron ore quarries, on the Grantham Nottingham line and the associated British Steel Lines around the Harlaxton area.

 

 

attachicon.gifa Belvoir Junction Class 20s D8182 and ano up iron ore Dec 68 J1517.jpg

Belvoir Junction Class 20s D8182 and ano up iron ore Dec 68 J1517

 

 

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Stenwith near Woolsthorpe 2 x Class 20s & brake van returning from Harlaxton Grantham Canal on right Aug 70 C303

 

 

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Denton   Gunby at level crossing Sept 70 J2330

 

 

attachicon.gifk Harlaxton Quarries BSC much rebuilt Drewery diesel Phoenix on engineers train July 73 J3235.jpg

Harlaxton Quarries BSC much rebuilt Drewery diesel Phoenix on engineers train July 73 J3235

 

 

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Harlaxton Quarries Rhondda and Ajax  Sept 70 J2326

 

 

Edited to add a date to a photo.

David

That looks like the "Ajax" thats now on the Isle of Wight steam railway

Cheers

JonF.

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Fantastic photos, as usual. Do you have any shots of where the Belvoir branch crossed the Grantham Canal, just past the Dirty Duck (sorry Rutland Arms!) pub?

 

ROB

 

I don't think so but you never know I may come up with one when I look at the photos I've not yet used.

 

David

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A second attempt at some more photos at Greenholme, this time with the correct date.

 

While I was there the sun finally put in an appearance.

 

 

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Greenholme Class 390 up Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4407

 

 

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Greenholme DRS 66429 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4411

 

 

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Greenholme Class 221 up Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4430

 

 

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Greenholme Class 350 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4448

 

 

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Greenholme Class 350 up Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4449

 

 

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Greenholme Class 390 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4458

 

 

David

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J5693.....layout picture amongst real ones...discuss!! :sungum:

 

Superb shot!

 

JF

Was going to say the same thing! I think perhaps the weathering on the 86 is a little too heavy on the airbrush....

Love that shot though, really top stuff.

Keep 'em coming!

 

TTF

Ben

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Well, all I can say to anyone who takes photos near to the canals in Wolverhampton, is that they are braver men than me.

 

I passed through that area on a narrowboat some years ago and appeared to be target practice for an idiot with an air gun.

 

I haven't been back since, and was so un-nerved that evening, I moored the boat overnight on the opposite side of the canal to the towpath, just in case.

 

 

But that's enough about me. Great pictures, as usual.

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This afternoon we'll move a little further up Shap to a position very close to the site of Scout Green signal box.  By now the sun was shining strongly and it was hot rather than just warm.

 

 

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Scout Green 390 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4462

 

 

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Scout Green Class 390 down Monday 29th September 2014 DSC_4463

 

 

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Scout Green Class 390 down Mondayth September 2014 DSC_4464

 

 

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Scout Green Class 350 down 29th September 2014 DSC_4475

 

 

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Scout Green Class 350 down 29th September 2014 DSC_4478

 

 

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Scout Green Class 350 down 29th September 2014 DSC_4480

 

Edited to correct dates - I think I must be using last year's calendar or something.

David

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