Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Derbyshire photo’s. Interesting to see the failure of the 45 in the first photo’, and I’m thinking that the class 25 must be going to rescue it. In J5824, at Cowburn Tunnel, in October, 1977, the unit is a class 114 rather than a class 108. The 64 feet long bodies, and four big windows between the two passenger doors being two clues. Also no class 108’s had a top marker light fitted.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Swindon 123]

Photos taken around Derbyshire over a 27 year period today.

 

 

Grindleford Class 45 failed St Pancras to Manchester Piccadilly and Class 25 May 72 C0943.jpg

Grindleford Class 45 failed St Pancras to Manchester Piccadilly and Class 25 May 72 C0943

 

 

David

 

 

Hi, Dave. I like the Derbyshire photo’s. Interesting to see the failure of the 45 in the first photo’, and I’m thinking that the class 25 must be going to rescue it. In J5824, at Cowburn Tunnel, in October, 1977, the unit is a class 114 rather than a class 108. The 64 feet long bodies, and four big windows between the two passenger doors being two clues. Also no class 108’s had a top marker light fitted.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

Just to correct the record, the 25 in the first photo is actually a 24. I would surmise not a class of loco usually seen over that route. Maybe the only loco available to go and rescue. It's a lovely photo all the same, with lots of misc detail to get the modelling juices flowing. Thank you for sharing David.

 

Paul J.

[Western Glory]

Swayfield Class 55 9012 up Yorkshire Pullman July 72 J2979.jpg

Swayfield Class 55 9012 up Yorkshire Pullman July 72 J2979 09.48 Harrogate to Kings X on a Saturday

 

Swayfield Class 55 Newcastle to Kings X July 72 J2980.jpg

Swayfield Class 55 Newcastle to Kings X July 72 J2980 08.50 SO

 

David

I think J2980 is most likely to be 9011, just from the photo without any other evidence. The similar weather and slide numbering suggest J2979 and J2980 were shot on the same day, which according to the Napier Chronicles for 9012 must be either the 15th or 29th of July 1972. 9011 hauled 1A13 on the latter, but what is was doing on the 15th is unrecorded. Thus the exact date for both photos could very well be Saturday 29th July 1972, thanks largely to headcode panels. It's a pity they stopped being used as locos with them never looked as good afterwards.

 

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Edited July 25, 2018 by Western Glory

[Peter Kazmierczak]

I trust you popped into Bill Hudson's bookshop, in your last shot David.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. I like the Derbyshire photo’s. Interesting to see the failure of the 45 in the first photo’, and I’m thinking that the class 25 must be going to rescue it. In J5824, at Cowburn Tunnel, in October, 1977, the unit is a class 114 rather than a class 108. The 64 feet long bodies, and four big windows between the two passenger doors being two clues. Also no class 108’s had a top marker light fitted.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

Rob, 

Thanks for pointing out the dmu is a Class 114 - I still cannot get dmu identification sorted out - and I rode on 114's often enough.

 

The Class 24 was removed from a freight train to rescue us.

 

Just to correct the record, the 25 in the first photo is actually a 24. I would surmise not a class of loco usually seen over that route. Maybe the only loco available to go and rescue. It's a lovely photo all the same, with lots of misc detail to get the modelling juices flowing. Thank you for sharing David.

 

Paul J.

 

Thanks Paul.

 

I think J2980 is most likely to be 9011, just from the photo without any other evidence. The similar weather and slide numbering suggest J2979 and J2980 were shot on the same day, which according to the Napier Chronicles for 9012 must be either the 15th or 29th of July 1972. 9011 hauled 1A13 on the latter, but what is was doing on the 15th is unrecorded. Thus the exact date for both photos could very well be Saturday 29th July 1972, thanks largely to headcode panels. It's a pity they stopped being used as locos with them never looked as good afterwards.

 

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I've looked at Dad's notes (and mine) because I think I was at their house in late July, I can't work out for certain which Saturday it was, but the 29th would make sense.  Thanks for the time you've taken narrowing it down.

 

I trust you popped into Bill Hudson's bookshop, in your last shot David.

 

From what I remember I spent far too much that day!

 

David.

[DaveF]

More from the Tilbury line today, all around Laindon, the first station west of Basildon.

 

This area was within walking distance of home.

 

The last 2 were taken by Dad, he and Mum must have been visiting me.  This was not unusual as Mum often had to go to London to attend meetings of the executive committee of her union.  Quite often they would spend the weekend at my flat.

 

 

Laindon 2 Class 32s ballast during relaying Sun 5th March 78 C3690

 

 

Laindon 302300 Shoeburyness to Fenchurch St Dec 78 C4224

 

 

Laindon view west on a strike day Jan 79 C4279

 

 

Laindon 302 225 Fenchurch St to Shoeburyness May 79 J6481

 

 

Laindon 302 265 Shoeburynwess to Fenchurch St May 79 J6482

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the L.T.&.S.R. photo’s. All very interesting, and the first one is a good side shot of the Brush class 30 ‘Toffee Apples’. I’ve checked the classification, and it was class 30 for those pilot scheme engines, and class 31 for the production engines. Then a good series of photo’s of the class 302 EMU’s going about their everyday work. Finally I like the snow in C4279 at Laindon, in January, 1979. A most cooling scene on this most hot and humid day.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Class 30 = Original Mirrlees engines

Class 31 = Rebuilt with EE engines

 

The first 20 originally had electro-magnetic control eqpt; the rest electro-pneumatic

[35A]

I'm not sure that we can assume that the first one is a 'Toffee Apple', either, as a further 20 of the production batch were equipped with disc-fitted cab fronts, rather than headcode panels:  the first ten (D5520-29) and then a further ten, entirely at random, in the number series between D5530 and D5562. Other than the red circle coupling code on the front I'm not aware of any obvious external detail differences by which to identify the pilot scheme engines, unless anyone can point me towards them?

Edited July 26, 2018 by 35A

[DaveF]

I'm not sure that we can assume that the first one is a 'Toffee Apple', either, as a further 20 of the production batch were equipped with disc-fitted cab fronts, rather than headcode panels:  the first ten (D5520-29) and then a further ten, entirely at random, in the number series between D5530 and D5562. Other than the red circle coupling code on the front I'm not aware of any obvious external detail differences by which to identify the pilot scheme engines, unless anyone can point me towards them?

 

 

I've just had a look at my Class 31 photos on the LTSR, all the non headcode locos I photographed had the red circle coupling code.  I enlarged my original scan of the image in today's post and I can just see a red spot - and it certainly is not a blue star.

 

The parcels train to Southend East was also a red spot 31 the few times I photographed it.

 

I think I only saw headcode fitted 31s a couple of times on pw trains on the LTSR between 1974 and when I moved away in 1980.

 

David

Edited July 26, 2018 by DaveF

[DaveF]

The Midland today, at Toton and Trent.

 

The first photo isn't great in terms of colour fidelity but it is well worth looking at the rolling stock in the background.

 

You may think you've seen the second photo before but you have not.  It is the same train as before, but a different photo of it.

 

 

Toton 4F 44529 shunting, wagons descending up hump June 64 J141 note wagons with 4F

 

 

Toton Class 08 propelling tanks Carless Oct 77 J5841

 

 

Trent Class 254 Nottingham to St Pancras 31st May May 86 C7546

 

 

Trent Class 47 up coal March 76 J5067  47352

 

 

Trent 150144 Derby to Lincoln 31st May May 86 C7554

 

 

David

Edited July 29, 2018 by DaveF

[cheesysmith]

Love the first photo. The middle of those 3 16ton rot boxes is a clasp braked vac fitted version, but running in a unfitted train.

[73c]

Looks like 3 maybe 4 Brake Tenders across the top there.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Midland photo’s at Toton and Trent. A great set, and in J5841, at Toton, in October, 1977, you can see the barrier wagons between the 08 and the Carless tank wagons. In the last photo’, at Trent, wth 150144, on a Derby to Lincoln service, on May 31st, 1986,the bridge seems at the minimum height for the loading gauge. The underside of it is just clear of the roof of the train.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[cctransuk]

The Midland today, at Toton and Trent.

 

The first photo isn't great in terms of colour fidelity but it is well worth looking at the rolling stock in the background.

 

You may think you've seen the second photo before but you have not.  It is the same train as before, but a different photo of it.

 

 

wb Toton 4F 44529 shunting, wagons descending up hump June 64 J141 note wagons with 4F.jpg

Toton 4F 44529 shunting, wagons descending up hump June 64 J141 note wagons with 4F

 

 

Toton Class 08 propelling tanks Carless Oct 77 J5841.jpg

Toton Class 08 propelling tanks Carless Oct 77 J5841

 

 

Trent Class 254 Nottingham to St Pancras 31st May May 86 C7546.jpg

Trent Class 254 Nottingham to St Pancras 31st May May 86 C7546

 

 

Trent Clas 47 up coal March 76 J5067.jpg

Trent Class 47 up coal March 76 J5067

 

 

Trent 150144 Derby to Lincoln 31st May May 86 C7554.jpg

Trent 150144 Derby to Lincoln 31st May May 86 C7554

 

 

David

 

J141 - the 4F is shunting ex-LMS Stonebridge Park bogie hoppers.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[iands]

Love the last photo C7554. Due to the ambient lighting and the angle, it looks like the unit has barely made it under the bridge.

 

Regards, Ian.

[Fat Controller]

J141 - the 4F is shunting ex-LMS Stonebridge Park bogie hoppers.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

When did these finally disappear? I'm sure I've seen a photo of a rake behind an AC electric at Bletchley.

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Even some new BR Sulzer Type 2s in the left background.

[JeffP]

J141, is that the old steam roundhouse in the background?

[Peter Kazmierczak]

J141, is that the old steam roundhouse in the background?

Certainly is.

 

I remember walking around after it'd closed, with all the steam ghosts around me.

[cctransuk]

When did these finally disappear? I'm sure I've seen a photo of a rake behind an AC electric at Bletchley.

 

Yep - so have I.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[DaveF]

We'll spend another day on the Midland, this time starting at Meadow Lane crossing, just east of Trent before heading south towards Loughborough.

 

 

Meadow Lane crossing Class 120 Lincoln to Crewe May 76 J5254

 

 

Trent 43086 St Pancras to Nottingham Aug 83 C6147

 

 

Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 D36 Nottingham to St Pancras March 69 J1561

 

 

Kegworth Class 45 down Feb 77 J5639

 

 

Kegworth Class 45 up Oct 75 J4976

 

 

David

Edited July 28, 2018 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Midland photo’s. A great set and all so nostalgic. That’s a fabulous view of a HST in C6147, at Trent, in August, 1983. But they couldn’t speed up the MML service by much since the nature of it was not suitable for high speed services. I love the photo’ of a class 45 hauled service in the last one, in October, 1975, at Kegworth. It must be accelerating going by the hazy plume of exhaust.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

Edited July 28, 2018 by Market65

[DaveF]

Another trip to S&D150 at Shildon in 1975 this morning.

 

 

Shildon DSB 0-4-0WT 385 24th Aug 75 C2343

 

 

Shildon MR Compound 1000 24th Aug 75 C2344.

 

 

Shildon LMSR Princess 6201 Princess Elizabeth 24th Aug 75 C2352

 

 

Shildon 24th Aug 75 C2362

 

 

Shildon 43106 24th Aug 75 C2372

 

 

Shildon CR 419 24th Aug 75 C2379

 

 

David

[russ p]

Great pictures David

Was that tank still in traffic?