Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[HillsideDepot]

The IECC site had, at one time, been the site of the laundry that dealt with all the linen (both bed and table) for the ER; I believe it had been rail-served at one point.

 

Is that correct? The LNER had a laundry in York on the Fosse Islands branch which was rail served and operated for many years into the BR period.

 

Paul

 

I too understood that the site of the IECC had once been a railway laundry, having been told that by a former fireman/secondman while I was a student at Newcastle Poly. My memory suggests that there might even have still been remains of the building there when I began my course, although the IECC was pretty much operational when I finished.

[Clive Mortimore]

Regarding the Carless wagons; the only flow I know of was from their refinery at Parkeston Quay to a terminal near Longport (Stoke) conveying solvents; this was in the late 1970s/early 1980s, using 45t GLW monobloc tanks. These worked as a block train. Might the tanks in the photo be going to, or coming from, repair at W H Davies works near Worksop?

Hi Brian

 

Outside their offices at Parkston Quay was a sign on the fence.

 

CARLESS

 

Vistor's parking

[Fat Controller]

 

I too understood that the site of the IECC had once been a railway laundry, having been told that by a former fireman/secondman while I was a student at Newcastle Poly. My memory suggests that there might even have still been remains of the building there when I began my course, although the IECC was pretty much operational when I finished.

There was a building at the eastern end of the site, next to the double gates: I recollect it was supposedly a bodywork repairer or similar. This would have been in 1983/4.

[Osgood]

David,

 

..... I only went to Consett the once, on this RPPR railtour (the "County Durham Crusader"), in May 1979, and my memories are much hazier than my photography! ....

 

I'm jolly glad you went the once at any rate, because you managed to capture a rake of 16T minerals on ironstone duty!

I've been searching for evidence of this without a great deal of success (I think only one image in the Eric Tonks Ironstone series of books).  Thanks.

[Porcy Mane]

I'm jolly glad you went the once at any rate, because you managed to capture a rake of 16T minerals on ironstone duty!

I've been searching for evidence of this without a great deal of success (I think only one image in the Eric Tonks Ironstone series of books).  Thanks.

 

Be careful. Those 16 tonners are on one of the lines used to feed the melting shop. So probably loaded with fine ferrous scrap from one of the North Easts many engineering works or scrap dealers.

[jonny777]

Yes, I was thinking that. A bit too dark for iron ore. 

 

There were occasional 16t minerals in Highdyke - Frodingham workings. I saw them pass my Dad's house in the 1960s, but I would say that two in one train was not common, and most rakes had none.  

[cctransuk]

Be careful. Those 16 tonners are on one of the lines used to feed the melting shop. So probably loaded with fine ferrous scrap from one of the North Easts many engineering works or scrap dealers.

 

That would be my interpretation, too.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[DaveF]

York in 1986 but with one photo from some twenty one years earlier.

 

 

York Class 40 up light engine Aug 65 J223

 

 

York 45111 Liverpool to Scarborough 28th July 86 C7652

 

 

York 43088 dead and 43077 Dundee to Kings X 28th July 86 C7658

 

 

York 45111 Scarborough to Liverpool 28th July 86 C7674

 

 

York 43028 York to Cardiff 3rd Aug 86 C7848

 

 

David

Edited April 8, 2022 by DaveF

[hmrspaul]

Be careful. Those 16 tonners are on one of the lines used to feed the melting shop. So probably loaded with fine ferrous scrap from one of the North Easts many engineering works or scrap dealers.

The fine ferrous scrap can be seen over the top of each of the wagons.

 

Paul

[Southernman46]

Swarf - would occasionally catch fire in the wagons when the build-up of residual cutting fluid reached the right conditions ..................

[Mark Saunders]

Yes, I was thinking that. A bit too dark for iron ore. 

 

There were occasional 16t minerals in Highdyke - Frodingham workings. I saw them pass my Dad's house in the 1960s, but I would say that two in one train was not common, and most rakes had none.  

 

The wartime built LMS ones looked the same from a distance the main difference being the drop link on the brake lever like the BR iron ore tipplers!

 

Mark Saunders

[The Pilotman]

That’s a very smart 43088 in C7658, but clearly it wasn’t in such a good condition mechanically. I’m not very familiar with York station but is the photo of the arriving class 45 in C7674 taken from the end of one of the “Scarborough” platforms?

[iands]

... is the photo of the arriving class 45 in C7674 taken from the end of one of the “Scarborough” platforms?

 

Yep, you are spot on (the current platform 4).

 

Regards, Ian.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the York station photo's. So full of nostalgic and full of interest. What a fairly typical condition the class 40 is in that first photo'. Cleanliness was not a very high priority in those days, even for relatively new diesels. Platform 7 to the right was used by the Market Weighton and Hull line trains until the service ceased after the last train ran on November, 27th, 1965.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

A few Southern photos today.

 

I've put the Gravesend photo in as I really have no idea about the accuracy of the caption, it's a photoI hadn't really looked at for a very long time.  I suspect it is a load of rubbish but would appreciate comments from anyone who knows the area.

 

I can't remember now whether I had gone there by myself or with someone who knew the place.

 

Doubtless at the time it made sense.

 

 

Gravesend ex Waterside station June 75 C5619

 

 

Hollingbourne Class 414s 6077 and 6105 April 78 J6018

 

 

Rochester Class 414 up April 78 J6019

 

 

Rochester ex ferry April 78 J6023   Isle of Man Steam Packet Co. Ltd ship 'King Orry'

 

 

Rochester Class 423 up April 78 J6026

 

 

David

Edited August 1, 2018 by DaveF

[talisman56]

J6026 is a 4VEP (Class 423). Otherwise pretty accurate reporting...

[eastwestdivide]

and J6019 would be a class 414 (2-HAP).

C5619 the "other" Gravesend station was Gravesend West, and it did come up to a pier. I'm not 100% sure if that's the pier in your photo. NLS maps at https://maps.nls.uk/view/95750315 gives you an idea of the layout.

Used to pass Brewster Printing every day on my way to school!

Edited August 1, 2018 by eastwestdivide

[Fat Controller]

and J6019 would be a class 414 (2-HAP).

C5619 the "other" Gravesend station was Gravesend West, and it did come up to a pier. I'm not 100% sure if that's the pier in your photo. NLS maps at https://maps.nls.uk/view/95750315 gives you an idea of the layout.

Used to pass Brewster Printing every day on my way to school!

Didn't the link between the first section of CTRL to the existing lines use part of the route of this line towards Fawkham Junction?

[eastwestdivide]

Yes, while another part of the route between Gravesend West and what's now Ebbsfleet has since been excavated to become a link road.

See between the diagonal red lines on this map extract:

Edited August 1, 2018 by eastwestdivide

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Southern photo's. All so full of interest. In particular I like J6018, at Hollingbourne, with class 414's EMU's 6077 and 6105, in April, 1978. A good typical scene.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[SED Freightman]

Gravesend photo C5619 is a view looking downstream with the end of the PLA's Royal Terrace Pier on the right and a collier unloading at Tilbury Power Station over on the north bank of the Thames.

[melmerby]

Yes, while another part of the route between Gravesend West and what's now Ebbsfleet has since been excavated to become a link road.

See between the diagonal red lines on this map extract:

Gravesend West branch.jpg

While the Southern part links into something altogether more appropriate:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=14&lat=51.4285&lon=0.3323&layers=168&right=BingSat

 

keith

[SED Freightman]

Rochester photo J6023 shows the former Isle of Man Steam Packet Co. Ltd ship 'King Orry' moored at Strood, awaiting breaking by M Lynch & Son (Metals) Ltd.  The photo was taken from the Rochester side of the River Medway.

[DaveF]

Thanks very much to all of you who have posted the very helpful comments about the photos this evening.  There are really too many to reply to them using quotes.

 

I appreciate them very much.

 

David

[DaveF]

Some more photos from Scotland for today - some even contain trains.

 

 

DoRnock G and SW July 74 J3821

 

 

Dumbarton in distance and Glasgow to Gourock line in foreground July 74 J3852

 

 

Burghead grain wagons Aug 74 J3917

 

 

Dunbar Beltonford siding Class 55 up Aberdeen to Kings X Aug 74 J3989

 

 

Dunbar Aug 74 J3990

 

 

Cockburnspath Class 46 Edinburgh to Newcastle Aug 74 J3991

 

 

David

Edited August 2, 2018 by DaveF