RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 16, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2018 Not Aussie fly shunting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3109 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Ah, shunting. An area where things on model railways always look slow to me compared with the real world where the aim was to get the job done and get back in the cabin for the pontoon school or a cuppa. Setting back with a mainline diesel usually seemed to involve things going a sight faster than walking pace - particularly noticeable if the Guard stepped down off the brakevan and found himself almost running (or, fortunately very occasionally, falling over). And to loose shunt and particularly double shunt with a long raft of wagons definitely mean a 'smart' walking pace but not so fast that it was difficult to get a shunting pole in to hook off wagons. And moving up the yard for the next job would see a 350 fully opened up so at least 10 mph and possibly faster. The dfficulty with modelling it is of course the lack of mass in wagons and the ability to brake them when they loose shunted - but normally, even in flat yards, Shunters etc had to run to catch them in order to pin down the brakes. My 6 year old nephew lectures his mates about propelling at max 5mph, on the rare occasions that my sis gives the green light for the train set on the dining room table. Ok it's probably nearer a scale 25mph, but he gets it. If only because he's had so many derailments with his lightweight Hornby starter set wagons. He'll make a decent railwayman in time, if that's the path he chooses. At the moment it's a toss-up between toy trains and mobile phone game downloads... Reckon the Iron Ribbons will just edge it though! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) Then there's Aussie "Fly" shunting !!! Wonder if these lads are still with us - brave or daft (or both) I don't know - but they certainly got the job done sharp. Brit15 Struth! The Darling Harbour area has changed beyond recognition from those days when it was an "Island"; recovered land these days. My son had an apartment there a few years ago with views across to central Sydney before the kids came along so I know it well. see http://www.visitsydneyaustralia.com.au/lost-darling-isld.html Thx for fascinating historical footage from SBS Edited May 16, 2018 by BWsTrains 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 16, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) I wish i didn't get so distracted when I set a side modelling time, yesterday is a good example. When I worked as an advocate my client base was Harlow and I use to park up around the back of the station at lunch times, by the river. It is quite peaceful there and oddly very relaxing. I started to get interested I the 1960s station architecture, it is a lovely building. It is now Grade II listed. I took loads of photos of it and did start to build a model of the station building, not a layout based on Harlow Town. Yesterday I spent most of the day looking for and at photos of Harlow station, I just might build it. Here is my old work colleague Darren singing about Harlow, not Sydney. Anyone notice the Dorrington's shop, one of the best bakers I have come across in the country. Edited May 16, 2018 by Clive Mortimore 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Amy thoughts on how to incorporate it into the layout? Or are you just going to build it because you can? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 16, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 16, 2018 Amy thoughts on how to incorporate it into the layout? Or are you just going to build it because you can? Hi Matt If I do build it I will have it as a stand alone model not part of Exchange. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2018 It might work as a bus station/ school / leisure centre? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 19, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2018 I do like it when Chelsea beat Man Utd. Well done the Blue team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted May 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2018 What's football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 What's football? Bladder kickers in frilly knickers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 19, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2018 What's football? Bladder kickers in frilly knickers Far too happy to react to your comments. :yahoo: :yahoo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 19, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2018 I have added a speed chart to my layout so I can try to keep my trains running at realistic speeds. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2018 Agree about the football, wonderful result! Why is the speed graph not a simple straight line? As the speed increases, why does the time not decrease at the same rate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) Agree about the football, wonderful result! Why is the speed graph not a simple straight line? As the speed increases, why does the time not decrease at the same rate? It's a typical curve (can't remember the mathematical name as it's been some time since I did maths at skool....) edit: hyperbola? Then again, that doesn't surprise me as there's been enough hype about SE.............. Cheers, Mick Edited May 19, 2018 by newbryford 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 20, 2018 Agree about the football, wonderful result! Why is the speed graph not a simple straight line? As the speed increases, why does the time not decrease at the same rate? Hi Stu When plotting a graph where the distance is constant and time and speed are not you get a curve. If a train traveling at 60 mph it covers a mile in 1 minute. Another train traveling at 120 mph takes half the time, 30 seconds. A pick up fright traveling at 15 mph will take 4 minutes. If you plot them on a graph it comes out as a curve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2018 D'oh! Of course it does.... The time/speed changes are inversely proportional, which gives the curve. I shall sit at the back with the coned hat on. ( still smiling though as we won the FA Cup and Jose is still moaning ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 20, 2018 ( still smiling though as we won the FA Cup and Jose is still moaning ) I think Manure lost the cup more like, thanks to Jose Negativinho. Mike. Who doesn't really give a toss either way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 WOT Cup, no one told me there was a cup, is it tea or coffee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 If this is to be based on sheffield, i tink a bit of sheffield prototype insperation is called for. So with today being such a nice day I took a walk down Attercliffe viaduct with my camera and my new toy, a laser distance tool from B&Q. Attercliffe road bridge. 77ft between base. 12ft high base on each side of arch, 25ft to top of arch/base of rail bed. Sutherland st road bridge, 45ft wide, 12ft high stone posts, 21ft to centre of arch. Norfolk bridge over river at Attercliffe. The bridge where atercliffe station sat on top of. Effingham road bridge. 118.5 ft span, 16.4 ft top cantre of arch high, 6.4 ft high abutments on each side. If you look at the top of the coping stones in this view, it looks like there was anouther arch here, but it was filled in and a reinforcing bulge of stone added. Ps, it is the same on the other side. sussex st. 35.4ft wide, 16.7ft high. Underside of bridge. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2018 Very nice and atmospheric, my old stamping ground. If you go down that way again could you divert via the remnants of Attercliffe goods please?, I need some general atmosphere and building materials type pics. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Attercliffe viaduct and some more bridges. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 21, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2018 Wow very nice set of photos, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 notice the viaduct is both stone and engineering blue brick. If you want a blue brick bridge, here the line crosses the river to EMR, the old SDR line to its Sheffield terminus at Attercliffe. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 21, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2018 The turntable is operational, first loco has been for a spin. What I need to remember when driving off if on the other track to change the point at the other end...I know with DCC I wouldn't have that problem 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 21, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2018 .I know with DCC I wouldn't have that problem You're learnin'...... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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