Titan Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 So now you have the opportunity to launch locos sideways off the layout as well as off the end! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 23, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) I have a lot of information on railways mainly relating to diesel and electrics of the 1960 which I am more than willing to share. But from today on wards should anyone think I can help them please put a request to me via a PM as I am fed up with certain bullies who want to prove me wrong. Edited May 23, 2018 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2018 I have a lot of information on raiwlays mainly relating to diesel and electrics of the 1960 which I am more than willing to share. But from today on wards should anyone think I can help them please put a request to me via a PM as I am feed up with certain bullies who want to prove me wrong. No-one should be bullied, especially on a toy train website - put in a complaint to the Mods / Andy. (Not that I'm telling you what to do, of course...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Did these Bullie(d)s ever reach Sheffield then ? S.Pam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just think Clive, this could be your world... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/134380-Hornby-elite-is-it-junk-what-alternatives/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 23, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) Just think Clive, this could be your world... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/134380-Hornby-elite-is-it-junk-what-alternatives/ Did you read it? If you did what did they all mean? I did like the bit about "back in the Historical Analogue days....." There you go I am Hysterical Hosterical old fashioned, great. :sungum: Edited May 23, 2018 by Clive Mortimore 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2018 I've no time to read the internet, I've got weathering to do... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted May 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just think Clive, this could be your world... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/134380-Hornby-elite-is-it-junk-what-alternatives/ So glad I have stuck with good old analogue. Simple in concept and entirely logical. I thought DCC was intend to simplify things. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) Completely with you on the "I must have it" brigade. Many moons ago I built an MTK D600 on a Hornby 47 chassis, and I certainly won't be showing that to anyone, although I learnt a lot doing it! John. As requested, here are a couple of views of D604, plus a couple of another kit effort of mine, "Falcon", hopefully showing that my later stuff isn't quite as rubbish. The MTK "Cossack" runs on a Hornby 47 chassis, reasonably well in fact, and didn't look so bad until I airbushed some satin varnish, which bloomed as you can see. I rang the then owner of Precision paints, who recommended I weather it heavily, not I hasten to add the present owner or the one before. I've been wary of varnish ever since, and it went in a drawer for 25 plus years. I could try T cut, fit some etched roof grilles, complete the glazing and weather it I suppose. "Falcon" is a Silver Fox body, with L&J etched grilles, on a dual motored Lima chassis with Ultrascales and lots of weight. It is very strong and runs well with a determined sound, people forget that its only since the arrival of 66's that diesels went quiet! I'm not convinced about my "lime" shade, probably a bit light, but then having looked at a lot of pics I don't think the Heljan colours are right either. John. Edited May 24, 2018 by John Tomlinson 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 24, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2018 HI John They look OK. Knowing the work involved with an MTK kit to get it to the painting stage is good. I have a Silver Fox Falcon and a hand built one. I will dig them out later and take some snaps of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 HI John They look OK. Knowing the work involved with an MTK kit to get it to the painting stage is good. I have a Silver Fox Falcon and a hand built one. I will dig them out later and take some snaps of them. This is the other end of "Falcon" with a "Master Cutler" headboard, I realise the other two pics both showed the same end. On that one 7J03 is the 11.15 Mansfield to Whitemoor coal, which the loco worked regularly, sadly it seems without any photographic record. John. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 24, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2018 Twin Falcons. The green one is home made the other one is a Sliver Fox model. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) Hi Clive, did you paint the silver Fox one, or was it bought like that? They make quite a pair, it's a pity there was only one for real as I'd really like to have them in all three liveries! The colour scheme of the lime & chestnut one I find a real puzzle, and it may even have changed in the four years. In some photos, the roof is clearly paler than the lime green, a kind of off-white/ pale cream, and this isn't due only to back lighting. The lime in my pictures has actually come out lighter than on my model, and in turn I think it's still a bit light, although from pictures the real thing looks to have faded in service. There's a shot somewhere taken from the GC line at Loughborough with the loco at the back of the Brush Works with the lime looking pretty pale in comparison to the surroundings, this is the one with a small yellow warning panel. I think the SYP was painted on for illustration but it never ran in that scheme, being fully repainted in the later green scheme like your scratchbuilt model. That must have been quite a challenge to do in plasticard, and yours has come out well. John. Edited May 24, 2018 by John Tomlinson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2018 4J05 is the 1405 Leeds PCD - Sheffield Midland parcels. Now Falcon on that I would love to have seen! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 24, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2018 Hi Clive, did you paint the silver Fox one, or was it bought like that? They make quite a pair, it's a pity there was only one for real as I'd really like to have them in all three liveries! The colour scheme of the lime & chestnut one I find a real puzzle, and it may even have changed in the four years. In some photos, the roof is clearly paler than the lime green, a kind of off-white/ pale cream, and this isn't due only to back lighting. The lime in my pictures has actually come out lighter than on my model, and in turn I think it's still a bit light, although from pictures the real thing looks to have faded in service. There's a shot somewhere taken from the GC line at Loughborough with the loco at the back of the Brush Works with the lime looking pretty pale in comparison to the surroundings, this is the one with a small yellow warning panel. I think the SYP was painted on for illustration but it never ran in that scheme, being fully repainted in the later green scheme like your scratchbuilt model. That must have been quite a challenge to do in plasticard, and yours has come out well. John. Hi John The Silver Fox model came from a late fellow club member when his collection was disposed of. I think John brought it RTR. As for the lime green livery, I don't know too much about it. Now you have me looking in my books for more information. The other one was fun to build, there is nothing too hard in making your own. If you can make a box in plastic card to the correct dimensions you are half way there. But why bother today, when the D600s are finally with us we would have had every major main line diesel except, 10100 the Fell engine 10800 the Ivatt Bo-Bo 10800 Hawk, as above but rebuilt. DHP1 the 4 engined Clayton D226 and D227, the English Electric 0-6-0 locos, they were designed for trip freight and had a top speed of 40 mph 11001 Mr Bulleid's 0-6-0 also designed for trip freight. Then bung in the Cuban class 47 as they ran on trials before dispatching overseas. Not much left to model, 15 or 16 if you model 10800 in both guises and all ten Cuban locos. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 24, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2018 4J05 is the 1405 Leeds PCD - Sheffield Midland parcels. Now Falcon on that I would love to have seen! Mike. Thanks Mike The headcode came with the loco. Might change it one day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Thanks Mike The headcode came with the loco. Might change it one day Why? You're modelling Sheffield so... in an alternative universe Falcon arrives at Exchange with the afternoon Leeds parcels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2018 Hi John The Silver Fox model came from a late fellow club member when his collection was disposed of. I think John brought it RTR. As for the lime green livery, I don't know too much about it. Now you have me looking in my books for more information. The other one was fun to build, there is nothing too hard in making your own. If you can make a box in plastic card to the correct dimensions you are half way there. But why bother today, when the D600s are finally with us we would have had every major main line diesel except, 10100 the Fell engine 10800 the Ivatt Bo-Bo 10800 Hawk, as above but rebuilt. DHP1 the 4 engined Clayton D226 and D227, the English Electric 0-6-0 locos, they were designed for trip freight and had a top speed of 40 mph 11001 Mr Bulleid's 0-6-0 also designed for trip freight. Then bung in the Cuban class 47 as they ran on trials before dispatching overseas. Not much left to model, 15 or 16 if you model 10800 in both guises and all ten Cuban locos. Once you've done all that lot you could move on to 18000,18100 and GT3... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Nice photos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 24, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2018 Once you've done all that lot you could move on to 18000,18100 and GT3... Hi John What? Make a second GT3 when I haven't finished the first one !!! As for the other 2 they are G*R engines. Sorry self censoring keyboard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted May 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2018 I've always thought that Clive had a couple of screws loose with his penchant for Slaters flat-pack prototype kits, but last weekend a man I met at a show confirmed that Clive is completely sane... The chap I met had scratchbuilt many of the diesel prototypes - the Fell, 18000, GT3 etc. IN N GAUGE!!! Andi 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 25, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2018 I've always thought that Clive had a couple of screws loose with his penchant for Slaters flat-pack prototype kits, but last weekend a man I met at a show confirmed that Clive is completely sane... The chap I met had scratchbuilt many of the diesel prototypes - the Fell, 18000, GT3 etc. IN N GAUGE!!! Andi He sounds completely sane, well apart form the N gauge bit. :sungum: :sungum: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2018 He sounds completely sane, well apart form the N gauge bit. :sungum: :sungum: how about a T gauge Deltic... https://www.tgauge.com/product.php/71/2/english-electric-deltic-kit?71/2/english-electric-deltic-kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 25, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2018 how about a T gauge Deltic... https://www.tgauge.com/product.php/71/2/english-electric-deltic-kit?71/2/english-electric-deltic-kit Wow the potential there of a DMU/EMU based large suburban terminus with T gauge if you have no room for the larger scales. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Hi John The Silver Fox model came from a late fellow club member when his collection was disposed of. I think John brought it RTR. As for the lime green livery, I don't know too much about it. Now you have me looking in my books for more information. The other one was fun to build, there is nothing too hard in making your own. If you can make a box in plastic card to the correct dimensions you are half way there. But why bother today, when the D600s are finally with us we would have had every major main line diesel except, 10100 the Fell engine 10800 the Ivatt Bo-Bo 10800 Hawk, as above but rebuilt. DHP1 the 4 engined Clayton D226 and D227, the English Electric 0-6-0 locos, they were designed for trip freight and had a top speed of 40 mph 11001 Mr Bulleid's 0-6-0 also designed for trip freight. Then bung in the Cuban class 47 as they ran on trials before dispatching overseas. Not much left to model, 15 or 16 if you model 10800 in both guises and all ten Cuban locos. Now there's a list to grow old with! Did you see the build of DHP1 by "Jesse 1692" of this parish, in "Modifying and Detailing RTR stock", which used Heljan Clayton bits and some plasticard to produce a very convincing outcome. I have an A1 models brass kit for the Fell in my cupboard, sad to say it's been there a long time, and have seen at least one made up at a Show, on "Annsome Fell" IIRC. Judith Edge do the Bulleid 11001, and Dave Alexander 10800 in kit form, I don't know if there are kits for the EE shunters, but judging from your production of other small shunters I suspect you'd make one quite easily! How good to have a hobby where we never get bored! John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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