RMweb Premium Jason T Posted October 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2015 I'm with you there Mark, kits are addictive and the more you do, the more you need to buy to satisfy the cravings. Not long ago, I dug a Bachmann Covhop out of it's storage box and out of curiosity, popped some EM wheels in. To my surprise, they went in straight away as the brakes are gauged for EM / P4 rather than the expected OO. Now I really like Covhops as they are such an interesting wagon visually but for the life of me, I can't think if a reason why one would be needed at a textile mill. Also and of more relevance, I felt guilty for thinking about using an RTR wagon on the layout. I'm maybe in too deep but I'm not going cold turkey 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2015 Would textile coluring agents be brought in in powder form, to be made into liquid dyes on site ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Would textile coluring agents be brought in in powder form, to be made into liquid dyes on site ? I would doubt that a mill of the type and location modeled would have carried out dying. Vast amounts of water are required, so dye works are nearly always next to a river or other water source and were generally separate from the textile production mills. Dave, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) I can't think if a reason why one would be needed at a textile mill. Also and of more relevance, I felt guilty for thinking about using an RTR wagon on the layout. Possibly Sodium carbonate if it was a wool mill. Sodium hydroxide in a cotton mill. I'm trying to remember back to O level geography. Something to do with lanolin removal from fibres rings a bell? I suppose it depend on how advanced in production methods, your particular mill is. P Edited October 8, 2015 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted October 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2015 That'll do for me; I didn't need much persuading or reason. Unloading facilities would need to be off-scene though. Just got to work out how to fit AJ's to them now 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Unloading facilities would need to be off-scene though. Might have used a similar Archimedes system to these grain wagons? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/186/entry-16209-Bachmann-grain-wagon/ (Towards the bottom of the page). Interestingly modellable. Edited October 8, 2015 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-GNR Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Might have used a similar Archimedes system to these grain wagons? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/186/entry-16209-Bachmann-grain-wagon/ (Towards the bottom of the page). Interestingly modellable. Very interesting, be nice to see how he's gone about AJ-ing it..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted October 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2015 Very interesting, be nice to see how he's gone about AJ-ing it..... Here's how I did my HEAs Although I've not done droppers yet as they're intended to run as a fixed rake. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Here's how I did my HEAs 2015-10-08_08-26-53.jpg 2015-10-08_08-27-04.jpg Although I've not done droppers yet as they're intended to run as a fixed rake. Whats going on with that 'class 20 wagon'? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted October 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2015 Whats going on with that 'class 20 wagon'?The BCB pair are poorly, currently in the works for overhaul, again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The BCB pair are poorly, currently in the works for overhaul, again I was going to suggest Jason fitted tension lock couplings and then glued the 'AJ' on the end of the hook oh, perhaps not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Cook Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Here's how I did my HEAs 2015-10-08_08-26-53.jpg 2015-10-08_08-27-04.jpg Although I've not done droppers yet as they're intended to run as a fixed rake. How are the bottom doors going to work now ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-GNR Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Here's how I did my HEAs 2015-10-08_08-26-53.jpg 2015-10-08_08-27-04.jpg Although I've not done droppers yet as they're intended to run as a fixed rake. Cheers Mark I hadn't thought about keeping it down the centre line of the wagon, my first thoughts were to like I've done on the 21t hoppers to go around the hopper shoots & anchor the wire somewhere off to one side. I think i'll try something like that on the next hoppers i do & also the Covhop if i do it. Cheers Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted October 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2015 Yes, that was what I was going to do originally, but the bends needed to get it past various bits of underframe looked a bit fiddly and I prefer, where possible, to attach the wire centrally if I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-GNR Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I agree, keeping the hook & its tail central is the better option if possible especially if you have long rakes negotiation curves & point work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Hi Jason, Just came across this image of coal drops at Sowerby Bridge and immediately thought of "The Mill" http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/dh-sowerby-bridge(1).jpg Edited October 10, 2015 by Shadow 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted November 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2015 A bit more progress with wagons; some weathered, some now lettered and three new ones built. Four unfitted wagons; two LMS ones, an L&Y one (still to be weathered) and a GWR one. LNER mineral, Ratio LMS 3 plank, GWR open and BR built ply sided van with planked door I am quite chuffed with how the LMS steel sided van turned out The BR van, close up. I added the rain strips and replaced the tie bars with L section brass And finally, a BR built 13ton open 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Well hi Jason, where have you been this past month, you and Chris still basking in the glory I'll bet. Love the wagons, nicely done but, a common misconception regarding buffers on BR vans - should be 1'6'' our B003 is the one. All the best, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted November 9, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2015 Both of us have been baby sitting and fun stuff like that. Guess which buffers I don't have in stock You may be getting an order through later on 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Jason, The weathering on that LMS steel sided van is exceptional! Hope that Sara and Sofia are both in the best of health. Clever idea to model wagons between feeds etc! Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted November 9, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2015 Time is of the essence at the moment Jock, so I do bits whenever I get chance. That's why I am getting on with wagons, as you can do them a bit at a time. Remove components from the sprues and clean them up one day, drill the holes for the brakes and buffers another, build the body and chassis, add weight, add all the brass braking bits, add the buffers, spray with undercoat, paint the underframes, paint the body, apply decals, weather the underframes and finally weather the body. Takes a while but at least I keep modelling and I am not rushing things which I reckon is the key to a half decent end result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted November 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2015 Sara will love playing with those wagons on the carpet or on the Brio track... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted November 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2015 The weathering on the LMS steel van is superb. Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Sorry about the late rating response to your post of the 9th Jason, been a bit crook for a couple of days, but I like your plan! I'm scaling the bothy at Hurlford from a photograph (the counting bricks method!), to hopefully produce a card version and keep my hand in! I had a play with my two week old fourth great grandchild today, but at least I could hand him back! I take my hat off to you for getting so involved, Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 'The Mill' had completely dropped off my radar, probably due to the old PC going capput, but more likely through my forgetfulness. Seeing as you like making mills, I could do with you having a working holiday in Wales to build Oswestry ha ha. Seriously though, the sight of your work has spurred me into considering building Oswestry or the building at Ellesmere instead of taking my usual lazy route of adapting ready-to-plonk items. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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