royaloak Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Strange that this axle counter issue doesn't involve Class 387 EMUs; Is it the act of raising/lowering the pantograph and starting/ceasing to draw power that causes the problem, rather than electric operation itself ? IETs are much more powerful than the 800s 387s so they are electrically more 'noisy' so that might be the issue. Edited April 13, 2018 by royaloak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 The pan is designed and manufactured by Brecknell Willis, of Chard in Somerset. . Now don't start bringing me into it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 IETs are much more powerful than the 800s so they are electrically more 'noisy' so that might be the issue.?800s are IET ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Think he meant ..........much more powerful than the 387s...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2018 IETs are much more powerful than the 800s so they are electrically more 'noisy' so that might be the issue. Doesn't necessarily have much to do with it - the critical part is what sort of electronic emissions are coming out of the train, basically their power, duration, and frequency. Those emissions should have been comprehensively monitored during type testing - that's why testing can take so long nowadays - and have been checked through all the test programme paperwork against every single electrical/electronic item in the area where a train is going to run. that's why various modern trains are not allowed on infrastructure where certain types of electronic based track circuiting is in use. if the test programme had been properly prepared and thoroughly carried out an issue such as this is alleged to be simply should not happen - it would have been known about, and mitigated in some manner or another before the trains had even entered passenger service. BTW we're not back to hotbox detectors are we, and not axe counters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 ? 800s are IET ? As Peter has stated, I meant 387s not 800s. Doh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted April 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2018 Ah, but that's nothing new is it. A number of modern trains (including currently the 387s on GWML) are having to have pan mods to 'tune' the pan to the overhead. We seem to have been managing such situations for at least the past 20 years with 100% British kit l) (In the meanwhile I can but hope that once Class 345 British built junk heaps (and these things really are junk heaps in terms of lack of passenger facilities) get past Maidenhead their pantographs will dissolve into a myriad of tiny pieces and the answer to the problem will not be found for at least 30 years which should see me out of having to endure these atrocious excuses for 'a train'.) You feel strongly about these trains, don't you?! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted April 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2018 As Peter has stated, I meant 387s not 800s. Doh. It wasn't that hard to work out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 You feel strongly about these trains, don't you?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted April 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2018 I wonder if they've considered fitting loos to just one carriage (talking 345s here, not 800s of ocurse) with some reasonably obvious way of indicating which one? That way people who really need one could have access, and it would be an improvement over the non-corridor trains we used to have where you had to make sure you got into the right carriage (or part of carriage) or you were stuck? Of course they would then need the infrastructure to empty the toilets at the depot(s) which presumably at present they don't - another advantage (to the operator) of leaving the toilets off... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I guess we need to remind ourselves that this is the Class 800 thread, not the ElizabethLine/Crossrail thread. (Guilty as charged your honour.) . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted April 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2018 Saw this on YouTube: Up IET arrives at Didcot on diesel power then ‘pans up’ in the station and departs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGraphics Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Saw this on YouTube: Up IET arrives at Didcot on diesel power then ‘pans up’ in the station and departs. They certainly get their skates on when they pull away on the 'lecky! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Saw this on YouTube: Up IET arrives at Didcot on diesel power then ‘pans up’ in the station and departs. Dougie. That video has already been posted here, back on 18th January (page 118, post 2932). . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Dougie. That video has already been posted here, back on 18th January (page 118, post 2932). . YUP - but the train has only today arrived in Paddington !!!!!!!! Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted April 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2018 Dougie. That video has already been posted here, back on 18th January (page 118, post 2932). . C’mon I’ve not done too badly, that’s 28 pages and some 600 odd posts ago! Some things get repeated on RMWeb within 10 posts or less :D 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2018 Axle counter issue at Cholsey station meaning all down sHitachis must run on diesel between Reading and Didcot, up line not affected. item appeared on late notices from 21:34 on 12/03/18. As of 18/04: The issue of the Axle Counter at Cholsey has been resolved and IETs in the Down direction can now travel “pans up” from Reading to the normal Power Change Over Point at Moreton Cutting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 TPE version on it's way... http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Rail-News/first-tpe-hitachi-test-train-leaves-japan-en-route-to-uk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted April 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2018 Class 800 making a further visit to Leeds over-night 20th/21st April and first visits to Harrogate and Skipton. In the schedule, if they run, as; 5X21 http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K10016/2018/04/20/advanced 5X22 http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K10017/2018/04/21/advanced 5X23 http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K10018/2018/04/21/advanced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 019 made it back to the Great Western yesterday after corrections in Doncaster. As it "should" of completed its fault free running on its last delivery, passenger service should not be to far off! Leaves 036/001/002/007/003/004 to follow. Last 800/0 diagram starts on the 30th April, totalling 30 units. It is expected these diagrams shall continue until the timetable is totally re-configured at the end of the year. Yesterdays PR of the TPE 802/2 also highlighted that the Agility East 800/801s shall remain in DfT base grey livery. Though whether VTec applies vinyl remains to be seen closer to December. Shame, as the propose VTec livery looked perfectly Virgin. 800/0 Status update. 20/04/18 003-004 - Hitachi Test Units, various locations. 005/006/008-018/020-035 - GWR Accepted/Passenger Service. Total available units: 29 for a required 28 daily. 019 - Agility Trains West Acceptance/Mileage, Bristol/North Pole. 001/002/036 - Hitachi Commissioning, Doncaster. 007 - Hitachi Static Testing, Newton Aycliffe. Edited April 21, 2018 by 159220 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 .....Though whether VTec applies vinyl remains to be seen closer to December. Shame, as the propose VTec livery looked perfectly Virgin. Is the "proposed VTEC livery" in the public domain? Any links to images if it is? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 800003 and 004 are at North Pole at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 What looked like a white 80x was lurking in the Willesden/ Wembley area yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesg Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 A little news on 800020. This member of the GWR Class 800 fleet has been named after Bristolians Bob Woodward and Elizabeth Ralph. Full news article from GWR here: https://www.gwr.com/about-us/media-centre/news/2018/april/bristol-heroes-celebrated-with-train-naming . I found out first hand by photographing it yesterday on a Worcester to Paddington service. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted April 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2018 TPE version on it's way... http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Rail-News/first-tpe-hitachi-test-train-leaves-japan-en-route-to-uk If it’s similar spec to 800/1 then it’s a no brainier for Hornby to produce one in the stunning TPE livery. I’d be tempted, assuming it goes round corners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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