cornish trains jez Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 An interesting observation that you're laying the sleepers in the "white space" in that last picture, whereas when I tried building a point kit in O gauge I was laying the sleepers on the printed marks that I assumed were sleeper spaces. I wonder if that's why my attempt at pointbuilding failed dismally...? It's not easy point building in any scale, especially in 2mm where everything is ultra fiddly. I've built and thrown away numerous common crossings as I just was not happy with the end result but eventually it works out and they become easier to build and the rolling stock will run (theoretically!) smoothly over the crossing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 First V crossing built for Euston. Haven't made one of these for a while so quite pleased with the result. It might need some tweaking but we'll see how we go. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Absolutely right! I didn't shuffle the sleepers around on the plan so I'm just adjusting as I go which will look fine once finished. The turnouts are the only parts where the sleepers are being laid separately. I experimented once by laying the sleepers on the straight runs and then trying to thread the track through the chairs and it was a nightmare with rail bending and then eventually ripping off the chairs. So for the straight runs I just thread on all the sleepers, which are already separated to the correct measurement as they come in sprues of 5, and then fix into position and adjust to be in line with the plan. If you can be bothers Slide Through Peg will sort it out, though you may need to adjust the Peg position, still looks very good and will enjoy seeing you build the slips 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Jez The common crossing looks very good. Building these becomes easier the more you do. I may be teaching you something you are very competent at doing though it may help others For the Vee, I find making a simple jig (I use aluminium strip from B&Q), both to check the angles and keep the rails in place whilst soldering them together Next I made a simple jig to hold the Vee in place whilst I soldered the wing/crossing rail in place Looking at the fiNetrax kit I built I am full of admiration at your ability to build something so small Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Looks very good Jeremy. 2mm scale does looks nice I have to say but I would cry at the wheel bill if I were to do it. My hybrid N2 is fine for me. I'll be interested to see the rest get built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Jez The common crossing looks very good. Building these becomes easier the more you do. I may be teaching you something you are very competent at doing though it may help others For the Vee, I find making a simple jig (I use aluminium strip from B&Q), both to check the angles and keep the rails in place whilst soldering them together Next I made a simple jig to hold the Vee in place whilst I soldered the wing/crossing rail in place Looking at the fiNetrax kit I built I am full of admiration at your ability to build something so small Hi Hayfield, Thankfully the 2mm association have a good selection of jigs. Here are the two I used. The one on the left is to create the Vee and the one on the right allows all the crossing sections to be put together and soldered. It makes the whole job far more simpler. All my crossings will be 1:7. Best regards, Jeremy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Looks very good Jeremy. 2mm scale does looks nice I have to say but I would cry at the wheel bill if I were to do it. My hybrid N2 is fine for me. I'll be interested to see the rest get built. Thanks mate. I'm going to try and get a bit more done this evening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Hi Hayfield, Thankfully the 2mm association have a good selection of jigs. Here are the two I used. The one on the left is to create the Vee and the one on the right allows all the crossing sections to be put together and soldered. It makes the whole job far more simpler. All my crossings will be 1:7. image.jpeg Best regards, Jeremy Are you keeping then to 1-7 or have you several jigs, sorry for the questions but my knowledge of 2 mm is nearly zero Just about to use a 4mm scale switch rail jig in anger for the first time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Just run a wagon through the crossing and it's perfect thankfully. Let's hope the rest go the same way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Are you keeping then to 1-7 or have you several jigs, sorry for the questions but my knowledge of 2 mm is nearly zero Just about to use a 4mm scale switch rail jig in anger for the first time I have several jigs ranging from 1:5 to 1:10. I went for 1:7 as they felt the most prototypical. Good luck with your track building. It can be really rewarding to see your trains running over hand built track work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Good work so far! It should get quicker and easier, the more you do. I find that the tighter the standards, the easier it is to build good pointwork. P4 and 2FS really are easier than EM, OO, OO9 etc in my experience. 2FS is the easiest, if only because you have far less filing to do! Scale is almost irrelevant because the really critical stuff can all be done with gauges and jigs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Good work so far! It should get quicker and easier, the more you do. I find that the tighter the standards, the easier it is to build good pointwork. P4 and 2FS really are easier than EM, OO, OO9 etc in my experience. 2FS is the easiest, if only because you have far less filing to do! Scale is almost irrelevant because the really critical stuff can all be done with gauges and jigs. Thank you. I've never built track in any other gauge however I would like to have a bash at P4 one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Here is the crossing in place. The sleepers for the first single slip with switch diamonds have also been fixed into position tonight. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 This is an awesome project! I take it careful planning is the only way you can tackle something as complex as this. I'll be following with interest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 I now have evidence and an excuse for a freight train at Euston. Here is large logo class 47440 on ballast duties in 1989! Bang on the period too! http://www.britishrailwayphotographs.com/p399715045/h3134129#h3134129 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) I now have evidence and an excuse for a freight train at Euston. Here is large logo class 47440 on ballast duties in 1989! Bang on the period too! http://www.britishrailwayphotographs.com/p399715045/h3134129#h3134129 Engineering trains must get to all parts of the rail network. But that is not freight. And could you run any other trains if it is there during an engineering possession? I think it would be more interesting to see what there would have been by way of ordinary goods vans on the many parcels trains. But that might take you back a bit from your chosen era. Edited to add: Just noticed from that photo that there is both BH and FB rail. Edited October 2, 2015 by Joseph_Pestell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Engineering trains must get to all parts of the rail network. But that is not freight. And could you run any other trains if it is there during an engineering possession? I think it would be more interesting to see what there would have been by way of ordinary goods vans on the many parcels trains. But that might take you back a bit from your chosen era. Edited to add: Just noticed from that photo that there is both BH and FB rail. I need to find out a little more about ballast workings at Euston. Did the locos run around the train or were they reversed out of the terminus? Who knows. It could be that I could include it in a sequence with a slightly reduced service to represent engineering works. A bit of imagination required I think on this one. It would certainly make a nice contrast to the many passenger trains entering and departing the terminal. The trackwork is mainly bullhead with one or two flat bottom sections. I will certainly be modelling them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigP Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) -- Edited January 30, 2021 by bigP Deleted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgTrain Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Amazing, got to follow this thread! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 one of life's little pleasures: watching a wagon speed perfectly through newly-built pointwork. when I finished my track I spent ages doing just that, with a contented grin on my face. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Time for a bit of an update. More track work has gone down over the last week or so with the sections of straight track into platforms one and two done. I've today completed my first turnout with just the check rails to go. I've also made a start on the first slip. Here are a couple of progress shots. The test wagon runs nicely through the turnout!! Success!! Best regards, Jeremy 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) What an excellent layout this is going to be! The turnouts look excellent with such finesse, and really go to show planning is key. Great work! Thanks, Jack. Edited October 10, 2015 by Jack374 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Nice work Jeremy, that pointwork will look great once finished along with the rest of the layout. Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Great work there Jeremy. I don't know what some peoples problem is with 2mm/N scale. I guess that they are conditioned to think everything has to be 4mm scale to be good because its the first scale that most are introduced to, I find the backhanded congratulations a little condersending tbh, a bit like "wow that looks great, for 2mm". I personally love 2mm/N and can with great skill be every bit as detailed as 4mm. Edited October 10, 2015 by RBE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Great work there Jeremy. I don't know what some peoples problem is with 2mm/N scale. I guess that they are conditioned to think everything has to be 4mm scale to be good because its the first scale that most are introduced to, I find the backhanded congratulations a little condersending tbh, a bit like "wow that looks great, for 2mm". I personally love 2mm/N and can with great skill be every bit as detailed as 4mm. My comment was merely to point out that there is nothing wrong with this layout, so I had simply tried to inject a hint of humour as - at least at our club - we have quite a lot of banter regarding scales. I'm sorry this offended you so I shall edit my post. I think Jeremy's work is excellent, which is why I posted in the first place. I have absolutely nothing against 2mm, especially when modelled as finely as this. Apologies. Let's return to the layout. Jack. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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