peanuts Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/101493/model-trains-to-fetch-150000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 The old chestnut about not counting your domesticated avians before they emerge from their eggs may apply here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2017 That's only an average of £37.50 per item........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelpara Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Some of the estimates seem a tad low Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2017 The old chestnut about not counting your domesticated avians before they emerge from their eggs may apply here. Very much so when one looks at the lots. Plenty of continental outline - which in my experience tends not to do too well at auction other than for the rarer locos, plus some US outline and of course some British. Unless there are some serious continental outline buyers there I suspect that old chestnut might well prove right and much will go below bottom estimate. The O gauge locos might do well although one or two look a bit rough. Some of the lots are obviously aimed at dealers so that won't help prices at all but if you live handy and anything appeals a visit to the auction or a dabble via the saleroom (with their additional commission added plus p&p on anything you buy) might amuse https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/wrightmarshall/catalogue-id-wright10120 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 The Bemo contingent looks good value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I like what the auctioneers did with the sale catalogue cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 What a strange collection. A quick look flags up some bargains in the continental stuff and also some very strange estimates. Is the old DDR stuff of any value, especially in bulk random lots? Might be worth signing up and watching for a few lots. Bernard Now registered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Most of the Piko stuff isn't worth a great deal, but there are a few models they turned out which were not produced by anyone else, e.g. the Br.95 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted January 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2017 Gostude should get his wallet ready! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2017 I might pop over and have a look on one of the viewing days as it's only up the road from here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Gostude should get his wallet ready! He probably already has an account there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2017 Gostude should get his wallet ready! I expect he already has. I used to love bidding against him at live auctions as you could either push him out of his buying-in comfort zone or outrun his hoped for profit margin and secure things at a far lower price than he would be looking for on Ebay He probably already has an account there. Depends how he works. He might bid via the saleroom buy that would hit his margins (or push up his prices !!!!!!!!) although I know he used to attend some live bidding auctions further south and spend a lot of money at one go. Incidentally the estimates are exactly that, estimates - I suspect the 0 gauge ones are more likely 'come on' estimates to encourage bidding rather than accurate estimates of what some of the lots could actually fetch while some of those for continental stuff strike me as way over the top (unless the market has changed drastically in recent times?). For many of the lots the bidding in the saleroom is likely to start at c.30% of bottom estimate up to about 50% of it unless lots of idiots have put in commission bids which are far higher - this is one of those auctions were bidding on commission is definitely not a course I would follow if I was really after some of the lots as it's likely to push up hammer prices. Incidentally the auctioneer's own buyer's commission rate isn't bad at all for this day and age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I like the catalogue descriptions, somebody has made a decent effort with this. Much better than "Hornby train" that I have seen a few times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Very much so when one looks at the lots. Plenty of continental outline - which in my experience tends not to do too well at auction other than for the rarer locos, plus some US outline and of course some British. Unless there are some serious continental outline buyers there I suspect that old chestnut might well prove right and much will go below bottom estimate. The O gauge locos might do well although one or two look a bit rough. Some of the US does fall into the 'pile of old tat' category - obsolete models from the 70s etc which unless you get a collector of something obscure (or somebody that doesn't know/care about the quality) might not go at all.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I had a look through the roco stuff, there are some bargains hiding in that lot but, as usual, everything is only worth what people are prepared to pay for it. Someone might well get a bargain or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I had a look through the roco stuff, there are some bargains hiding in that lot .... Yes, you've probably been looking at the same stuff I've had my eye on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted January 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2017 Buyers Premium 20.5%. Bear this in mind when bidding or when complaining about E Bay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 20.5%? Ouch that's like adding on vat-again! Guess it does depend on what sort of prices it brings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Buyers Premium 20.5%. Bear this in mind when bidding or when complaining about E Bay 20.5%? Ouch that's like adding on vat-again! .... Just remembered VAT may be charged on top of that. Maybe not a bargain after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2017 Buyers Premium 20.5%. Bear this in mind when bidding or when complaining about E Bay That's if you are using the saleroom to bid online, the auctioneer's rate is 17.5% if you bidding with them either in the room or on commission. Don't forget too, as Ivan has suggested, that the buyer's premium is subject to VAT at the standard rate (no question of 'may'. it is a service and therefore liable for VAT unless they are quoting an inclusive rate and the auctioneer isn't and the saleroom definitely don't) so there will be that to add on. There will be no VAT on the hammer price as all the lots are from a UK based non-trade seller but in all cases if you are not present to make and takeaway any purchases you will have to pay p&p on whatever lots you buy and if you want it insured that too will be an add-on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Suddenly all the fun evaporates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 An auction in lots to appeal to dealers, by the looks of it. It will all dribble back onto the market, over a long period. That's my guess, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2017 An auction in lots to appeal to dealers, by the looks of it. It will all dribble back onto the market, over a long period. That's my guess, anyway. Some lots are definitely aimed at dealers (probably the mates of the bloke who did the lotting - oops wash my mouth out). Only thing is if they are aimed at dealers it's easy to outbid them, provided you have a disposal route for those things you don't want in a particular lot. The other reason for lotting in the way it's been done is to achieve a better chance of a lot actually selling - if you keep less popular items in separate lots they won't move whereas mixing them at least stands a chance of getting them on their way - in the past I've bought lots where as much as 60% of the content was of no interest or use to me but I found it easy enough to get shot of what I din't want via RMweb classifieds and make enough to cover the cost of what I'd kept as well as what was sold on and with no need to be greedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2017 I like the catalogue descriptions, somebody has made a decent effort with this. Much better than "Hornby train" that I have seen a few times. I lost interest when I got to the 4VEP diesel multiple unit! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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