No Decorum Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Which raises the obvious question of why the Heljan 05 shunter costs nearly twice as much! Well, for a start, the Heljan has brass axle bearings, a heavy chassis and lights. It's the first time I've seen running lights on a shunter. Not only that but the lights are excellent renderings of separate lights i.e. without being embedded in the bodywork behind them. It's a worrying development. If manufacturers take up the idea and apply it to steam locomotives, all my steamers will be obsolete! I have to agree that the Sentinel is a stunning little model for the price, even if Hornby has skimped on the paint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) . Edited October 4, 2021 by Dave47549 Removed pointless guff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 It looks like a new version of the chain drive model in Manchester Ship Canal livery is being released! I don't even model in 00 gauge these days, but I'll still be buying one, although it's a shame that's it not the later livery version as featured on DH23&24. http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2016/locomotives-train-packs/sentinel-dh16-4dh-msc.html https://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/6478095187/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RThompson Posted November 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2015 For those interested I now have replacement Hornby skirt etches available as sadly the Hornby model has the horrible join which is nothing like the real locos. These retail for £4.50 a pair and there is both chain drive as illustrated and rod drive versions as they are slightly different on the real locos. Will be available from the RT Models stand in the small suppliers forum at Warley this weekend and added to the website after. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 For those interested I now have replacement Hornby skirt etches available as sadly the Hornby model has the horrible join which is nothing like the real locos. These retail for £4.50 a pair and there is both chain drive as illustrated and rod drive versions as they are slightly different on the real locos. Will be available from the RT Models stand in the small suppliers forum at Warley this weekend and added to the website after. I wouldn't call that join horrible. But that's one useful piece of kit. I will surely be picking up a set or two if I buy a set or 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted November 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2015 It looks like a new version of the chain drive model in Manchester Ship Canal livery is being released! I don't even model in 00 gauge these days, but I'll still be buying one, although it's a shame that's it not the later livery version as featured on DH23&24. http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2016/locomotives-train-packs/sentinel-dh16-4dh-msc.html https://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/6478095187/ They are also doing the 'Crossley Evans Ltd' Scrap yard external crank one http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/sentinel-crossley-and-evans-0-4-0.html Both appear to be due at the end of March Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted November 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2015 For those interested I now have replacement Hornby skirt etches available as sadly the Hornby model has the horrible join which is nothing like the real locos. These retail for £4.50 a pair and there is both chain drive as illustrated and rod drive versions as they are slightly different on the real locos. Will be available from the RT Models stand in the small suppliers forum at Warley this weekend and added to the website after. I picked up a pair of each this morning. Robert was still bagging them as a fair few of us queued to buy them. They'll go nicely with the sawplan laser glaze frets I already have 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 For those interested I now have replacement Hornby skirt etches available as sadly the Hornby model has the horrible join which is nothing like the real locos. These retail for £4.50 a pair and there is both chain drive as illustrated and rod drive versions as they are slightly different on the real locos. Will be available from the RT Models stand in the small suppliers forum at Warley this weekend and added to the website after. These are an excellent time-saver, it'll save me cutting out my own from plasticard so a couple of sets were my sole purchase today. It did help that Robert came round and flogged them to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I have just received an email from Ultrascale. If there is enough interest David would consider looking at doing a wheelset for the outside cranked version. Current interest level appears to be just me at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I've been toying with how to repaint one of these into MSC livery; looks like I don't need to now. I also know of another modeller who will be pleased with the Crossley Evans shunter, as she is modelling that very yard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweasel Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have just received an email from Ultrascale. If there is enough interest David would consider looking at doing a wheelset for the outside cranked version. Current interest level appears to be just me at present. At his lead times for delivery I'm not surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have just received an email from Ultrascale. If there is enough interest David would consider looking at doing a wheelset for the outside cranked version. Current interest level appears to be just me at present. I have previously expressed interest to them but never got a reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Well the more people that request, the more chance of the product coming to market Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 My cranked version turned up today in the post - rather happy with it. Comparing it to the non-cranker version it does appear to have a slightly shorter wheelbase and larger wheels? Was this true of the prototype also? If so what was the reason? Can anyone on this website enlighten me and others to why they made the two varients? Was the 4wDM for working in the vacinity of people and cranks and rods rotating around seen as a hazard? J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 11, 2015 My cranked version turned up today in the post - rather happy with it. Comparing it to the non-cranker version it does appear to have a slightly shorter wheelbase and larger wheels? Was this true of the prototype also? If so what was the reason? Can anyone on this website enlighten me and others to why they made the two varients? Was the 4wDM for working in the vacinity of people and cranks and rods rotating around seen as a hazard? J The cranked version had a more powerful engine so possibly it was to reduce the number of broken chains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Comparing it to the non-cranker version it does appear to have a slightly shorter wheelbase and larger wheels? Was this true of the prototype also? Yes Can anyone on this website enlighten me and others to why they made the two varients? Was the 4wDM for working in the vacinity of people and cranks and rods rotating around seen as a hazard? Chain drive is more efficient for low power inputs but can't handle large power inputs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Well, my Oxfordshire Ironstone Sentinel Betty is now finished. Detailing parts included swords and plates from Judith Edge, Nameplates from Narrow Planet and sand box spill plates from RT models - I would have used their skirts too, but I'd already filled and sanded mine before they became available. It started life as the Wabtec livery model, resprayed with Humbrol acrylic and transfers from Fox. Other detailing includes filling the join lines in the buffer beams, drilling out the lifting eyes, making dump car coupling pockets from scrap etch and adding a crew. I didn't fancy using the Shawplan glazing, but this is also available. Paul A. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm not sure about filling in the joint lines on this one, the rod drive locos had a platform and buffer beams 6" wider than the chain drive ones so it should actually step out 1mm here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RThompson Posted December 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2015 The rod drive version much to my surprise is correctly 1 mm wider each side on the footplate compared to the chain drive version on the Hornby models. I'm not sure about filling in the joint lines on this one, the rod drive locos had a platform and buffer beams 6" wider than the chain drive ones so it should actually step out 1mm here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RThompson Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 Hello everyone, Here's both Hornby sentinel replacement etches fitted to the appropriate locos. should finish this pair on Christmas and Boxing Day, the only 2 days I'm gaurenteed off! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepyrider Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 No connection etc etc but the Balfour Beatty version is 35.99 on Hornby.com at the moment. So my second one, to go with Barabel, is on the way now, or at least will be once they return to work after the hols. I've never bought two of any loco before, I think that speaks volumes for the quality and value of this loco. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted December 26, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2015 Yes, I saw that a short while ago too and nearly bought another as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Yes, I saw that a short while ago too and nearly bought another as well! They are addictive and I fear for my bank balance if a 6 coupled one is produced! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 26, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2015 No connection etc etc but the Balfour Beatty version is 35.99 on Hornby.com at the moment. So my second one, to go with Barabel, is on the way now, or at least will be once they return to work after the hols. I've never bought two of any loco before, I think that speaks volumes for the quality and value of this loco. Yes, I saw that a short while ago too and nearly bought another as well! They are addictive and I fear for my bank balance if a 6 coupled one is produced! Mark Saunders I've got three already. :locomotive: 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D5541 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 While not deliberately trying to outdo anyone... I'm up to 8 already (one of each, plus 2 to repaint) and I've got the next 2 on preorder as well :-) Certainly building up into a nice collection :-) 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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