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If it's steam related perhaps it could be further announcements for Hornby marking the 100th Anniversary of Flying Scotsman the centenary in 2023 products. A range of Flying Scotsman locomotives in retro packaging from all eras of Hornby's history? And a special train set or something?

Absolutely stunning locomotive! I'm so glad Hornby just went ahead with it as a special train pack. I prefer this Rather than the trains on film train packs although that is a nice touch for fans of trains in cinema ( looks as though this has been cancelled it possibly could be something Hornby might indeed well look at in the future perhaps they could continue with these theme alongside trains on television as well who knows?)

They are reverting back to the "Hornby RAILWAYS" 1978, 1979, 1984 and 1985 logo?

Yes I did notice the audio isn't in synch. unfortunately. Bearing in mind that this is probably the first time this has being digitised from possible its original format master. That it was filmed on, edited on and originally transmitted from, after sitting on the shelf in one of their vaults at Perivale, West London. Well it is of broadcast quality. The tape wasn't wipped and reused after it was broadcasted leaving only a domestic recording on VHS or betamax home telerecording, (not of broadcast quality) or the 16mm film wasn't junked. The rest might explain why its in such a bad state. I have seen other short documentaries about the BBC Archives, contains over 3.7 million items, film video tape CD VInyl Wax cynilders. The vaults all fire proof, and are all stored in climate controlled vaults at different temperatures in fridges best to suite the material thats kept in them. About how where and when they remaster the digitisated copies before they enter their digital archive. Very technical with films reels suffering from vinegar syndrome to 16mm film reels and the heat generated caused from the millions of D3 video tapes when they play them on the obsolute formats and the machines used to play them to digitise them. All of their original master material from the 1970s were on huge expensive video tapes were migrated on to the D3s in the 1990s and the problems they caused. For example They do this via if the audio fades out if it's a sport event and the clapping from the audience is muted inbetween they'll insert audio in the gap from another sport event where there is clapping. Perhaps the BBC will go through all of their over 33.000 clips on the BBC Archive Rewind page and fix the out of sync audio problems. I have seen under the categories of local BBC News from the various different regions that the audio is of a poor quality. The feature clip from the 1979 referendums about Scottish and Welsh devolution are in an awful state with visible tape damage and muffed audio. Due to the age of the original matterials It's just so happens that they only happen to be the best available psychical copies that they have in their archives.

To mark their outstanding achievement and the centenary of the BBC. They have now released a huge large amount of their television archive BBC Rewind Online, here is a feature on the APT-P. Look North West: Advanced Passenger Train  Preston Station, Lancashire, England  Monday, 7 December 1981

Fantastic finally BR executive or BR INTERCITY swallow livery? I wish Rails would also include a pay in full now payment feature button! I'm surprised it's taken so long for a manufacturer to produce any model any gauge of the Class 89 Badger. ( given its history, longevity and how many endless years we've all wanted one to be produced! By any manufacturer) I doubt any other manufacturer than Accurascale With Rails will produce one either now, of any other scale including OO gauge one.

Will the audio soundtrack of this be included as an extra bonus sound feature on the DDC sound fitted models?

Sorry yes I know there are many technical issues I was referring to "visual problems only".

Alot of problems with the APT that we are now addressing? Other than the capacitors used I can't think of or see anything major really that comes under "Alot of problems" I wonder what they are?

Very nice Darius! The love how the lighting catches the typical look of the late 1990s PP East Coast GNER livery!) I would return them Adam as they are in such poor condition! I hope all my original BR INTERCITY Swallow MK4 coach stock, including MK4 DVT are in pristine condition too! I've been in regular contact with my stockist. I am still waiting for mine which I am told is due very soon! Mine obviously is the BR Class 91002 Durham Cathedral named after a very beautiful English city and Catherdal off topic (but well done Bradford! a very well deserved winner! Can Exeter please be nominated for UK City of Culture 2029?! As I'm from Devon and The beautiful Royal Clarence will be restored by then 2024 according to architectures, English heritage and Exeter city Council following the devastation from 2016 so why not let the South West be nominated?!).

Yes I remember in the late 1990's until the early 2000s seeing Hornby products still being sold in retailers some of which dated back to the 1980s. It was old/new shop stock. In 2006 I remember seeing an old new shop stock of an early1990s Scalextric set still on the shelf of the model shop. I'm sure people will want to buy it I doubt anything new products are deemed a favour there will always be a market for these fictional or not.

I don't know how I feel about this but I will say It's nice to see them mark the Platinum Jubilee further with more announcements. Although given the historical importance of this event. I'd rather we saw another special Queen Elizabeth II train set similar to the Diamond Jubilee one in 2012. I've added the other three last one Platinum and two Diamond Jubilee Hornby products for comparison contininuity.

Yes they've recently released final product photos with the packaging. Which I must say I love the box artwork design it all looks beautifully designed and to finally be able to see the Royal Mail coach. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is released on its own in the future it really is stunning! I missed out on the standard Hornby 2020 Rocket train but I have the Centenary Tri-Ang 1960 Rocket which I can't run as it's part of the centenary range, which I thankfully manged to get all each decade including the retro wagons book, Hornby centenary parker pen, centenary badge and centenary collectors club loco. So this train pack will make up for it as I can actually run it without leaving it in its box and packaging.

I have managed to secure one i think it looks very nice. Although I'm surprised it is just a locomotive and not a special train set like the one which was produced for the Diamond jubilee. Mind you securing one at the moment is alot easier to do than trying to secure the limited edition platinum 70th anniversary jubilee tin of Cadbury Roses.

Yes i intend to keep them both and I will continue to use both and I will enjoy playing with them! The 5 car set was from an independent retailer. The 7 car set came directly from Hornby. Thankfully they also honoured the second pre order price. The split was there as soon as I flapped the cardboard lid over so I guess these tiny floors are inevitable mine probably isn't the only one like it I imagine! Mind you their newer train sets with the plup trays instead of the polystyrene trays on recipient do have inevitable spilts at the corners on the outter box packaging design before you even take the contents out. My R1230M GWR HST set arrived like it.

Both my sets have now arrived the 8 individual coach packs and second NDM is put away at the moment. They both look stunning. I'm really pleased! especially the City of Derby NDM. I'm probably being too picky Although the top right hand corner box of the 7 car set it arrived with a tiny split in the top right corner of the box but no where else. Will that affect its value at all? I've not had this with new train packs before.

I love that Red Rover set very nice excellent value for money for the contents! Strangely the Network Traveler Set box design image on Hornby's Website is of a Class D 0-4-0T locomotive, not a BR Class 06 Shunter.

Yes you'd end with two City of Derby NDMs. I think it does especially if someone wanted the yellow fronts last time but now they want the APT-P final logo they'd end up with the same train but in a different livery although with a different NDMS. I'm surprised to see more APT-Ps so soon! I think they must have reissued them (due to the increase in demand) perhaps they had emails along the lines of "why can't we have sets 370 001 370 002 with plain yellow fronts?" and vice versa for sets 370 003 370 004 and instead changed the liveries to the other sets. I forgot to add (But I didn't think Hornby would invest tens of thousands of £s on the new APT-P toolings for just two runs of two different full trains) I guess they can't please everyone.

Very nice two 755s! ( I'd like one of these) FGW "Fag Packet" wow it looks amazing! with MK3 coaches. (do i want another HST?! BR110 a long awaited good return just when I bought a new sealed original 1983 model as well in 2018! ah they are slowly listening ah a BR Class 37 in blue oh wait it's BR Blue Railfreight but its very nice it'll look great with some correct wagons! Wow BR Class 37 in IC Swallow thats very nice funnily enough I was thinking about that livery a few days ago just a bit to actually see it! A new 4-VEP very nice to see back in the range! hmm I might just stick with my 2016 one!) Nice new 31s and a newly tooled 0-6-0 Sentinel very nice!

Well it just looks like other than the points mentioned here. Sets 370 001 and 370 002 are now the plain yellow fronts with the addition of the City of Derby NDM. and sets 370 003 and 370 004 are now the black window surrounds final APT-P logo. Hornby have certainly listened! I know it was suggested by some that in for 2020 Hornby's Centenary that the two APT-P packs would be a one-off. But I didn't think Hornby would invest tens of thousands of £s on new APT-P toolings. We may possible see the final sets in the future with the red stripe APT-P logo.

If you stand a mile away you can sort of still thankfully not make out what is featured on the cover! Honestly Andy I would hate to already know the 2022 range. But obviously you have to know in advanced! Even if were were sent official emails from Hornby with blurred images seriously I'd delete it without opening it and I hate sneaky previews etc it ruins the build up! I would still await for their offical announcement date! It really is an annual occasion to look forward to. I didn't like it in the past when their previous year range announcements were announced midnight on New Years Day! So thankfully it's now a week or two after and I hope it stays this way! Finally it really has become well for me a marked occasion penciled in on calendars for the announcement date the later the better! Which adds to the excitement etc across all the Hornby Hobbies brands!

Yes the 2016 handbook a substitute for the catalogue that year fantastic as it is! (Building a layout, weathering track, renumbering locomotives etc, load wagons etc) It didn't have the catalogue feel it included an unreleased (listed strangley as an anniversary) Harry Potter Hogwarts Castle Train set and a Thomas and Friends Train set Edward's Day out which sadly never meaterlised! (Other than the Edward locomotive which Other rolling stock it intended to came with is still to this very day a mystery! There was a mini RRP 2016 catalogue £3.99 it was very nice Hornby did return and continue with the main coffee table catalogue in 2017 although a 2016 catalogue of this type was promised for retailers if enough interest sadly no coffee table 2016 catalogue. Yes the mini A5 catalogues that came free with the Train sets until 1997 was it? or there abouts! marvelous weren't they? The 2019 Trains Planes and Automobiles magazine from Hornby Hobbies was fantastic aswell behind the scenes production at the factories of Hornby and Scalextric it contained fascinating information of the BR Freight set 1979 Train set with the new class 25. And info on the original Hornby APT-P and 1980 Rocket.

I think some original BR liveried Class 43 HST Power cars with matching MK3 coach stock will be back as 2016 was the last time the original BR Blue livery (excluding the heritage GWR First and Last and the LNER Farewell Tour sets with the modified headlights etc) and other BR liveries Executive Swallow and Privatisation eras etc. Maybe the rare original BR black yellow blue livery would be nice to see! It reminds me a bit of the 1983 BR Executive livery! I often wondered why it had taken many years until more BR liveried HSTs and MK3s to return to the ranges. It wasn't until 2002 after a 19 year absence for Hornby to reintroduce an original BR Blue Grey Class 43 set of Power cars with MK3 coach stock. 1977 until 1983 (different numbers regions) etc it was last in the range until 2002! as the R2296 with 2 MK3 TS coaches with some extra MK3s separate I think an extra TS and two TF and one TRUB. It was over 28 years until the BR IC Executive livery was used 2015 when it reappeared in the range! and 2007 until an BR IC Swallow livery HST set was relaunched after an 10/11 year absence! other than prioritising the range mainly to the current period of the time and manufacturing limits per year range, etc is my only conclusion on that However.... When you think other BR liveries from Green to Maroon and Blue of Classes 25 , 29, 35 Hymek and 52 Western etc were in the Hornby ranges after and during the Privatisation eras between 1997 and 2001. It just seems there must have been obvious demand for BR liveried rolling stock for the same period of model makers collectors of this era period etc. So I often wondered why a very long gap for a return to BR liveried HSTs! The same can be said for the Original BR IC Swallow livery Intercity 225s! ( I am not complaining about the delays its just something I have often wondered about!) Some more 1976 Original BR MK3 coaches would be nice just Intercity omitting the 125 and just buffet etc. Mainly as I want to expand my 40th Anniversary HST set from 5 carriages to a full 8 car coach rake! Attached image Copyright © Ian 10B. 1975 2016, 2021 All Rights Reserved. British Rail HST Power Car 43002, Crewe Locomotive Works open day. 1975 British Rail HST Power Car 43002, painted in it's original black / yellow livery at Crewe Locomotive Works open day. Saturday 20 September 1975. (Slide No. 2242) Photograph copyright: Ian 10B.

Jason nothing is wrong with the Irish (irrelevant though this bit) my grandad fathers side is an Irish-Scot Glasgow born to an Irish father from Inishowen Co. Donegal. My dads parternal grandmother was Scottish from Glasgow Lanarkshire! My fathers mother is of Anglo-Irish ancestry Co. Antrim her mothers mother's side and Co. Cork somewhere down that lineage! My own mother is English of close proximity with Devon and she has Cornish ancestry Truro there from her mother's fathers side and some Welsh as well on her fathers side Flintshire! (Aplogies for the genealogy it's good to know who and where are Hertiage is from) back to trains and railways So Yes some Irish locomotives would be nice!

So they did with so many over the years even my mind has blank spots even with trains!