DavidB-AU Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 TRFB 40806 and TF 41024 have also been rebranded internally. On 1C40 this morning. Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chy Mengrowyn Paul Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Night Riviera stock in green as of today: SLEP: 10532,10594,10601 BFO: 17173,17175 RFMB: 10210,10225 Blue: SLEP: 10534,10563,10589,10590,10612,10616,10584 BFO: 17174 RFMB: 10232 TFOD: 12100,12161. The 2 "new" vehicles, a SLEP and a TFOD are now in green, not Brown and will be the first with new interiors. Due so long ago we have forgotten their numbers ! Edited September 10, 2015 by Chy Mengrowyn Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Pictures of sleeper coach with branding: Entry #190: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15989.180 https://flic.kr/p/yAyp7T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chy Mengrowyn Paul Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The "blue" set will have some green in it by saturday next week so get your final shots in while you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Country Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Green sleeper set, HST and 166 are due to be lined up at Paddington first thing on Monday morning for what presumably will be the official launch of the new brand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Morris Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 A green Power Car was heading for Laira this afternoon on the A38.No numbers or branding applied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) A green Power Car was heading for Laira this afternoon on the A38.No numbers or branding applied. 43188 Cheers, Mick Edited September 15, 2015 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Nothing new under the sun ..................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 16, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2015 43188 Cheers, Mick Another, apparently 43187, has been spotted on its way south as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 43188 Cheers, Mick I'd have thought that would have been a red Virgin one! After all, the bearded wonder reckons his drivers can steer the trains, that would explain it being on the A38? Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 A green Power Car was heading for Laira this afternoon on the A38.No numbers or branding applied. Why on earth are the power cars on low loaders going by road.? I was under the impression that trains were meant to travel on railway track. Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Why on earth are the power cars on low loaders going by road.? I was under the impression that trains were meant to travel on railway track. Keith. Rhetorical question? Cost, dear boy. Simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy stroud Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Rhetorical question? Cost, dear boy. Simple as that. Too expensive to operate a light engine movement. One of the marvels of the modern railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Too expensive to operate a light engine movement. One of the marvels of the modern railway Hire of traincrew with route and traction knowledge. Fuel. Path. Additional time out of service. Risk of missed path and rescheduling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2015 Hire of traincrew with route and traction knowledge. Fuel. Path. Additional time out of service. Risk of missed path and rescheduling. And the need for a barrier coach of a particular type. Dead easy to move HST power cars in coupled back-to-back pairs, not so easy for singletons without breaking the Rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy stroud Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I rest my case. wasn't a problem years ago, even single power cars on the move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Hire of traincrew with route and traction knowledge. There's probably more than enough standing around already! Fuel. Get a 10 litre can at you local Shell station Path. When the green light shines - go! Additional time out of service. Probably spends enough time OS as it is. Risk of missed path and rescheduling. Just get in front of the other one. Just kidding! Although it does seem a bit of a performance besides how much does it cost to be transported? Probably a tidy sum! Brian. Edited September 16, 2015 by brianusa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chy Mengrowyn Paul Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Knowing the state our coaches are being returned in, they won't be working...... . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 16, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2015 Why on earth are the power cars on low loaders going by road.? I was under the impression that trains were meant to travel on railway track. Keith. And what message does that send to every road user who sees one in transit? "Oh look - another broken down train" It's one thing to shift shunters by road (it's rather faster than their permitted 20mph main line speed) and there's curiosity value ("oh look ...... a steam train ") as well as expediency in trucking steam locos. I acknowledge the realities of the railway in 2015 but with a whole fleet to re-livery surely it's not beyond the realm of possibility to work them in pairs by rail??? And the costs should be factored into the equation before a rebranding exercise even gets off the drawing board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Agree Abello are moving their reliveried stock by rail with just a loco on front so it can be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail Picture Library Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 FGW press office says that the green HST should be at Paddington early Monday morning, but no details of diagram. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 My thoughts..... Hire of traincrew with route and traction knowledge. HST's have ran through Derby since the early 1980's so someone must know how to drive/routeFuel. See below but trivial relatively for FGWPath. Is the line that busy - why not travel outside busy times if a problemAdditional time out of service. ??? with traffic queues on the M5/M6/ARoads it would be quicker by railRisk of missed path and rescheduling. It's been at Derby for a while - even if delayed - is a few hours going to make a difference I appreciate 2015 is almost a different world in terms of railways BUT...... Also I can understand a private owner of say one loco using a lorry if cheaper but to FGW a company with income into the £m's each day are they that bothered about 'saving'??? a few quid on diesel when they must spend literally £'000's fuelling up their HST fleet every day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 They should really go the whole hog and paint the carriages in chocolate and cream. .... ....and bring in some decent steam motive power? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 ....to FGW a company with income into the £m's each day are they that bothered about 'saving'??? a few quid on diesel when they must spend literally £'000's fuelling up their HST fleet every day. If I was a First shareholder, a financial lender to the company or a senior executive, I would be very "bothered" if they weren't "bothering" about their costs. From a railway perspective, it is neither crazy or not crazy to move these locos by road, rather than rail. It's down to the commercial judgement and priorities of the companies concerned how they wish to carry out this task. Any negative impact on the highways, its users and any affected local communities, would be another matter. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2015 And the need for a barrier coach of a particular type. Dead easy to move HST power cars in coupled back-to-back pairs, not so easy for singletons without breaking the Rules. In this case at least, 43188 and then 43187 followed each other within about 24 hours. Running back-to-back together in this case would surely have made more sense. Just think of the field day the Press could have had at GWR's expense if the lorry had broken down on the motorway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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