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Revolution offers HOA stone hopper as next modernwagon in N

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Hello all,

 

Revolution Trains - which uses crowd-funding principles to offer niche models - is offering the HOA stone hopper as its next N gauge wagon.

 

This model follows the very well received TEA tanker wagons and is a logical progression as it utilises the same bogies.

 

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The wagons were introduced in 2006 for EWS Construction. A large number were repainted into Cemex blue livery, and some are now carrying DB red.

 

Since then, more have been built for wagon lessors Ermewa, for Tarmac traffic, and VTG, in operation with Mendip Rail.

 

These vehicles are used for stone traffic from quarries in the Derbyshire Peaks, the North East and the Mendips to customers across Britain, and have also seen service in Anglo Scottish sand traffic.

 

We plan to produce all five variants so far in service in both single and differently numbered triple packs.

 

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We have been working closely with VTG and with the manufacturers to prepare drawings and are ready to begin CAD work.

 

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At this time we are only seeking expressions of interest via our website, and no money is required.

 

At Warley today we have been asked by many people whether we plan to offer this model in OO and the answer is possibly, but we are making no further 00 announcements until we have actually delivered the 00 TEA tankers that are currently in development.

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

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Hi Ben

 

This sound like a great addition to the TEA Tanker, if the detail on that is anything to go by I look forward to these in the future. When do expression of interest open.

 

Cheers

Craig

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Excellent news!

  

 I'll be down for a rake!  Definitely in the market for more Stone traffic.

 

Graham.

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Don't you dare release these in 00, especially the EWS, DBS and VTG/MRL liveries!

 

Otherwise I'll have to find a larger home!

 

Graham

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I whole respect your decision to hold off announcing them in OO, but you are fully trusted as an outfit, you have the superb Rapido as your manufacturing partner who have already delivered other UK OO models. I very much hope once the TEAs are delivered, the HOAs shall be announced. My expression of interest for OO gauge are: 6 x Tarmac, 6 x MRL and 1 x each of the other three. Would be wonderful to run with the upcoming Dapol 59s and of course the range of available Bachmann 66s.

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It is nice to see items being produced concurrently with the prototype rather than waiting till the real thing has gone to the breakers yard!

 

So many so called modern image wagons were virtually extinct before decent models were produced and many are still waiting!

 

Mark Saunders

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Don't forget the debranded Cemex versions (plus maybe aa delivered livery will need to check photos!)

Cheers Paul

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Hi Paul,

 

At this time we aren't planning the unbranded ones as a stand alone, but we are looking at including blanking decals or rub-downs, since these are fairly visible my on the real thing.

 

But the first priority is to reach adequate expressions of interest.

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

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Predictably enough, I fancy a triple pack and a single with different running numbers. 00, of course. Perhaps another four or eight to keep me company in debtors’ prison. :)

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Hi Ben

 

Just a quick question, would you consider offering a weathered option on the HOA, when expressions of interest open. Hope this doesn't offend you real modellers out there.

 

Cheers

Craig.

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Chatting to Mike at the NEC/Warley show, he said that there was plenty of interest shown in a 00 version - me included.

 

I'll be happy if they're ready in about 2 years..... please!

 

Cheers,

Mick

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Thought these would have been out of region for me but I noticed the Anglo Scottish sand traffic reference. Can you shed a bit more light on which flow this was and which version it was please.

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Please, Please, Please consider doing a OO version. A definite customer here without a doubt. The CEMEX version is a must for my layout.

Cheers

Marcus

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Hello Eddie,

 

In Rail Express May 2006 there is a photo of an EWS 66 with a rake of about 15 HOAs in Construction livery and the text describes it as a sand flow for glassmaking in Irvine. It does not say where in England the flow originated, but I believe it may have been from Middleton Towers in Norfolk. I don't know how long the flow lasted. One of the reasons I have not yet published our usual map guide is that I am struggling to be sure about the route taken by this flow.

 

Marcus,

 

We are certainly considering further models in 00 but have taken a decision not to announce any until we have actually delivered something in 00, although preparatory work may be going on in the background.

 

It does mean we could be in a position where our hand is forced, or we seem to be second to announce, but following the very positive responses we have had to our handling of the 92 situation in N we are going to stick with this approach. The feedback we get is that many people are tired of endless promises and land grabs.

 

However I will say that we have received a *lot* of 00 requests at Warley from 4mm modellers after they picked up and looked at the TEA factory samples - and I will be posting some photos of them in that thread later.

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

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Thanks for the prompt reply Ben, sounds like it would have probably had to pass through Carlisle so that gives me a good starting point for research the flow. Better get saving I think!

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In the run up to Warley I didn't get chance to finish the expressions of interest page for the N/2mm HOAs but I'll get on to it tonight when I'm back from work.

 

I'll let people know when it is ready.

 

Cheers, Mike

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Thanks for the prompt reply Ben, sounds like it would have probably had to pass through Carlisle so that gives me a good starting point for research the flow. Better get saving I think!

Hi Eddie

 

Let me know what you find out!

 

Cheers

 

Ben

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The HOAs are also used for stone off Mountsorrel - the Trowse stone is HOAs a couple of times per week. The Barham is also HOA

 

Last Friday - 25 November 2016 - it was a mini stone, perfect for those on a budget

 

Eccles Road

66021 on 6L39, 06:37, Mountsorrel Sdgs - Trowse Yard Redland Siding (11:51) - loaded stone (4 HOA)

 

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Today it is was 66114 with 19 on

 

28 November 2016

Eccles Road

66114 on 6L39, 06:37, Mountsorrel Sdgs - Trowse Yard Redland Siding (11:51) - loaded stone (19 JNA)

 

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Hi Das,

 

I reckon that shot of the 66 with 4 x HOAs is about the best advertising image I can imagine for a 00 model!

 

Thanks for sharing!

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

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Hi Eddie,

 

There were some hoppers that looked a lot like these being hauled, loaded, over the level crossing in King's Lynn at about 14:30 last Saturday, Schenker and EWS Construction liveries were present.

 

Not sure whether this flow goes up to Scotland from Middleton Towers, but hope this information is of some use.

 

Mark

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In Rail Express May 2006 there is a photo of an EWS 66 with a rake of about 15 HOAs in Construction livery and the text describes it as a sand flow for glassmaking in Irvine. It does not say where in England the flow originated, but I believe it may have been from Middleton Towers in Norfolk. I don't know how long the flow lasted. One of the reasons I have not yet published our usual map guide is that I am struggling to be sure about the route taken by this flow.

 

Ben - What was the loco and is there a date this working ran ? I have my emails going back many years (and I have been in gen groups for many years) and *might* have something on it in my archives

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Hi Eddie,

 

There were some hoppers that looked a lot like these being hauled, loaded, over the level crossing in King's Lynn at about 14:30 last Saturday, Schenker and EWS Construction liveries were present.

 

Not sure whether this flow goes up to Scotland from Middleton Towers, but hope this information is of some use.

 

Mark

 

66059 on 6M89, 13:39, Middleton Towers - Arpley - for Quinn glass at Ince (near Helsby)

 

Here's the train on 15 October at Little Downham

66068 on 6M89, 13:39, Middleton Towers - Arpley Sidings (21:05) - loaded sand (23)

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I photographed every wagon if anyone is interested.

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Hi Das,

 

I will dig out the magazine and have a look when I am next at home. Unfortunately I don't have it with me.

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

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