RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Hello all, Revolution Trains - which uses crowd-funding principles to offer niche models - is offering the HOA stone hopper as its next N gauge wagon. This model follows the very well received TEA tanker wagons and is a logical progression as it utilises the same bogies. The wagons were introduced in 2006 for EWS Construction. A large number were repainted into Cemex blue livery, and some are now carrying DB red. Since then, more have been built for wagon lessors Ermewa, for Tarmac traffic, and VTG, in operation with Mendip Rail. These vehicles are used for stone traffic from quarries in the Derbyshire Peaks, the North East and the Mendips to customers across Britain, and have also seen service in Anglo Scottish sand traffic. We plan to produce all five variants so far in service in both single and differently numbered triple packs. We have been working closely with VTG and with the manufacturers to prepare drawings and are ready to begin CAD work. At this time we are only seeking expressions of interest via our website, and no money is required. At Warley today we have been asked by many people whether we plan to offer this model in OO and the answer is possibly, but we are making no further 00 announcements until we have actually delivered the 00 TEA tankers that are currently in development. Cheers Ben A. Edited November 19, 2017 by Ben A 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig85 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Hi Ben This sound like a great addition to the TEA Tanker, if the detail on that is anything to go by I look forward to these in the future. When do expression of interest open. Cheers Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Excellent news! I'll be down for a rake! Definitely in the market for more Stone traffic. Graham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emdpowerrules Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Don't you dare release these in 00, especially the EWS, DBS and VTG/MRL liveries! Otherwise I'll have to find a larger home! Graham 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I whole respect your decision to hold off announcing them in OO, but you are fully trusted as an outfit, you have the superb Rapido as your manufacturing partner who have already delivered other UK OO models. I very much hope once the TEAs are delivered, the HOAs shall be announced. My expression of interest for OO gauge are: 6 x Tarmac, 6 x MRL and 1 x each of the other three. Would be wonderful to run with the upcoming Dapol 59s and of course the range of available Bachmann 66s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 It is nice to see items being produced concurrently with the prototype rather than waiting till the real thing has gone to the breakers yard! So many so called modern image wagons were virtually extinct before decent models were produced and many are still waiting! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Don't forget the debranded Cemex versions (plus maybe aa delivered livery will need to check photos!) Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 26, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 Hi Paul, At this time we aren't planning the unbranded ones as a stand alone, but we are looking at including blanking decals or rub-downs, since these are fairly visible my on the real thing. But the first priority is to reach adequate expressions of interest. Cheers Ben A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Very nice, need to start saving my pennies again! Revolution are rapidly becoming THE primary source of modern N gauge! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Predictably enough, I fancy a triple pack and a single with different running numbers. 00, of course. Perhaps another four or eight to keep me company in debtors’ prison. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig85 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hi Ben Just a quick question, would you consider offering a weathered option on the HOA, when expressions of interest open. Hope this doesn't offend you real modellers out there. Cheers Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2016 Chatting to Mike at the NEC/Warley show, he said that there was plenty of interest shown in a 00 version - me included. I'll be happy if they're ready in about 2 years..... please! Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eddie reffin Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Thought these would have been out of region for me but I noticed the Anglo Scottish sand traffic reference. Can you shed a bit more light on which flow this was and which version it was please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Please, Please, Please consider doing a OO version. A definite customer here without a doubt. The CEMEX version is a must for my layout. Cheers Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 28, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Hello Eddie, In Rail Express May 2006 there is a photo of an EWS 66 with a rake of about 15 HOAs in Construction livery and the text describes it as a sand flow for glassmaking in Irvine. It does not say where in England the flow originated, but I believe it may have been from Middleton Towers in Norfolk. I don't know how long the flow lasted. One of the reasons I have not yet published our usual map guide is that I am struggling to be sure about the route taken by this flow. Marcus, We are certainly considering further models in 00 but have taken a decision not to announce any until we have actually delivered something in 00, although preparatory work may be going on in the background. It does mean we could be in a position where our hand is forced, or we seem to be second to announce, but following the very positive responses we have had to our handling of the 92 situation in N we are going to stick with this approach. The feedback we get is that many people are tired of endless promises and land grabs. However I will say that we have received a *lot* of 00 requests at Warley from 4mm modellers after they picked up and looked at the TEA factory samples - and I will be posting some photos of them in that thread later. Cheers Ben A. Edited November 28, 2016 by Ben A 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eddie reffin Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Thanks for the prompt reply Ben, sounds like it would have probably had to pass through Carlisle so that gives me a good starting point for research the flow. Better get saving I think! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 In the run up to Warley I didn't get chance to finish the expressions of interest page for the N/2mm HOAs but I'll get on to it tonight when I'm back from work. I'll let people know when it is ready. Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 28, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 Thanks for the prompt reply Ben, sounds like it would have probably had to pass through Carlisle so that gives me a good starting point for research the flow. Better get saving I think! Hi Eddie Let me know what you find out! Cheers Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 The HOAs are also used for stone off Mountsorrel - the Trowse stone is HOAs a couple of times per week. The Barham is also HOA Last Friday - 25 November 2016 - it was a mini stone, perfect for those on a budget Eccles Road 66021 on 6L39, 06:37, Mountsorrel Sdgs - Trowse Yard Redland Siding (11:51) - loaded stone (4 HOA) 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 Today it is was 66114 with 19 on 28 November 2016 Eccles Road 66114 on 6L39, 06:37, Mountsorrel Sdgs - Trowse Yard Redland Siding (11:51) - loaded stone (19 JNA) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 28, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hi Das, I reckon that shot of the 66 with 4 x HOAs is about the best advertising image I can imagine for a 00 model! Thanks for sharing! Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hi Eddie, There were some hoppers that looked a lot like these being hauled, loaded, over the level crossing in King's Lynn at about 14:30 last Saturday, Schenker and EWS Construction liveries were present. Not sure whether this flow goes up to Scotland from Middleton Towers, but hope this information is of some use. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 In Rail Express May 2006 there is a photo of an EWS 66 with a rake of about 15 HOAs in Construction livery and the text describes it as a sand flow for glassmaking in Irvine. It does not say where in England the flow originated, but I believe it may have been from Middleton Towers in Norfolk. I don't know how long the flow lasted. One of the reasons I have not yet published our usual map guide is that I am struggling to be sure about the route taken by this flow. Ben - What was the loco and is there a date this working ran ? I have my emails going back many years (and I have been in gen groups for many years) and *might* have something on it in my archives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hi Eddie, There were some hoppers that looked a lot like these being hauled, loaded, over the level crossing in King's Lynn at about 14:30 last Saturday, Schenker and EWS Construction liveries were present. Not sure whether this flow goes up to Scotland from Middleton Towers, but hope this information is of some use. Mark 66059 on 6M89, 13:39, Middleton Towers - Arpley - for Quinn glass at Ince (near Helsby) Here's the train on 15 October at Little Downham 66068 on 6M89, 13:39, Middleton Towers - Arpley Sidings (21:05) - loaded sand (23) I photographed every wagon if anyone is interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted November 28, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hi Das, I will dig out the magazine and have a look when I am next at home. Unfortunately I don't have it with me. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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