PTA/JTA/JUA, By Accurascale (NOW WITH ADDED BSC INNERS!)

[bartram108 203]

So if the wagons are 'tippled' separately then why do they have rotary couplings?

[Krieghoff 144]

3 minutes ago, bartram108 said:

So if the wagons are 'tippled' separately then why do they have rotary couplings?

I think this is an old film clip and put this up to show the process and not necessarily the actual wagons that we have 

[Mark Saunders 2,856]

20 minutes ago, bartram108 said:

So if the wagons are 'tippled' separately then why do they have rotary couplings?

It just shows a rotary tippler not using wagons with rotary couplings!

[ayrmrg 263]

18 minutes ago, bartram108 said:

So if the wagons are 'tippled' separately then why do they have rotary couplings?

That is a foreign version you are seeing. The Ravenscraig version were pulled through in a rake and each individual wagon was rotated whilst still coupled to rest of the rake. It was a time saving exercise I think, that worked very well.

 

Stephen

[johndon 5,429]

7 minutes ago, ayrmrg said:

That is a foreign version you are seeing. The Ravenscraig version were pulled through in a rake and each individual wagon was rotated whilst still coupled to rest of the rake. It was a time saving exercise I think, that worked very well.

 

Stephen

 

Ironically, on the Consett Iron Ore trains, the PTAs took far longer to unload than the wagons they replaced, an entire train of which could be unloaded in seconds due to the side doors and the gantry they unloaded over.

 

 

[lyneux 1,448]

If you want to see the UK ones in operation with the mules and the rotary couplings then Railfreight Today Scotland (Volume 3) is what you want to watch.

 

https://www.telerail.co.uk/railway-dvds-telerail-titles/rail-freight-today-boxed-sets/rail-freight-today-box-set-1-volumes-1-5

 

Modern Railways April 1974 also has an article with photos and a drawing of the tippler. I have scans but obviously not going to share online!

 

If you are seriously interested in information regarding the rotary tippler then send me a PM as I have been amassing information on this over the past 7-8 years with a view to making a working model.

 

Guy

[rembrow 1,039]

Just received my 2 sets of Yeoman PTAs, inner and outer. Beautiful models, with the level of detail we've come to expect from Accurascale. We must give them praise for another excellent model, but more importantly, their ability to produce multiple livery versions and packs of multiple models, with different running numbers, all released at the same time.

I had one small problem, one of the inner wagons in my 'outer' pack, wouldn't couple. I narrowed it down to one wagon and found one of the buckeye couplers was the wrong way round. Easy fix, but if you have the same problem, worth checking this first.

[adb968008 10,875]

On 22/11/2020 at 08:51, rembrow said:

You, you Accurascale people, why are you teasing me with my PTAs, getting close to me, then taking them away, like I've been a naughty child. Already they got to 2 miles from me when they went from Felixstowe to your warehouse, now they've gone on a tour having been sent to Royal Mails north west England distribution centre, then overnight, while I slept, they got within 300 metres of me, as a Royal Mail distribution lorry took them past me on the A12 to Chelmsford, 45 miles south. Will my heartache never end. So what's the plan for tomorrow, take them past my door again and leave them in Norwich!!!

Oh thats nothing.

I ordered some PKP coaches, from a shop in Poland, they sent me tracking number, after 2 weeks they had not arrived.

 

i checked the tracking.., it went to Krakow, Warsaw, LHR, LGW, BVI, Road Town (Tortola), BVI, LGW, LHR and then entered the Royal Mail System.

 

Took 4 weeks.

 

on the address label, in Polish they put:

 

Brytyjskie Wyspy 

Which translated was British Islands, which someone in Gatwick or Heathrow translated as British Virgin Islands.

 

 

Edited November 23, 2020 by adb968008

[black and decker boy 4,151]

The first of my orders turned up today - the Yeoman version.

 

very impressed with the wagons, (a long held dream) and especially the printing over the ribs.

 

Whilst the free load is appreciated, I must say it’s a bit basic and lacks character 

[owentherail 643]

All looking good, not sure when I'll get mine as PO sorting office have them and opening hours are for 2 hours in mornings only.... and I work in the mornings miles from office, cant let the misses go for them now can I  ;-) 

[Roy Langridge 3,027]

8 minutes ago, owentherail said:

All looking good, not sure when I'll get mine as PO sorting office have them and opening hours are for 2 hours in mornings only.... and I work in the mornings miles from office, cant let the misses go for them now can I  ;-) 

 

It is times like this I realise just how lucky I am with a wife that doesn't moan. Tomorrow my two new Kernow Warships turn up and this week hopefully my inner and outer BSC tipplers.

 

I always tell her she can sell it all when I am gone 

Roy

[Mark Saunders 2,856]

The White pages instructions are attached!

White_Pages_JTA-JUA_i.pdf White_Pages_JTA-JUA_ii.pdf

[lyneux 1,448]

1 hour ago, black and decker boy said:

The first of my orders turned up today - the Yeoman version.

 

very impressed with the wagons, (a long held dream) and especially the printing over the ribs.

 

 

 

Thanks for posting Graham... that looks very neat indeed. Well done Accurascale, certainly an improvement on the samples!

 

My tracking number finally arrived so I'm looking forward to getting mine this week and giving them a turn on Whatley.

 

Guy

[BR Blue 643]

Yes the printing looks very good. My first Yeoman ones should be with me this week too. Very impressed with my BSC ones and more to come

[lyneux 1,448]

11 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said:

The White pages instructions are attached!

White_Pages_JTA-JUA_i.pdf 3.04 MB · 0 downloads White_Pages_JTA-JUA_ii.pdf 3.28 MB · 0 downloads

 

Interesting, in particular:

 

D6/20 - In an emergency, when a match or spare outer wagon is not available, a Buck-eye fitted locomotive may be used.

 

So in 1991, I guess that would be stuff fitted for push/pull: 33/1s and 73s plus 86/87/90/91? Anything else?

 

Also, I thought that the British passenger buckeye and the freight version were not compatible? See Jo's comment here:

 

Edited November 23, 2020 by lyneux

[Roy Langridge 3,027]

2 minutes ago, lyneux said:

 

Interesting, in particular:

 

D6/20 - In an emergency, when a match or spare outer wagon is not available, a Buck-eye fitted locomotive may be used.

 

So in 1991, I guess that would be stuff fitted for push/pull: 33/1s and 73s plus 86/87/90/91? Anything else?

 

Some 08s had them also - so I guess that fits with emergency use to pull a failed train out the way?

Roy

[cessna152towser 456]

On 22/11/2020 at 13:35, McC said:

 you’ll fine a micro switch near the buffer beam under the end wagon. 

 

https://accurascale.co.uk/pages/support#reamaze#0#/kb/model-specific-questions/how-do-i-fit-the-battery-or-switch-on-the-lights-on-the-pta-slash-jua-slash-jsa-pack

Thanks for the heads up.   I tried to reach the microswitch through the slot but even the smallest Marklin screwdriver can't reach in far enough to operate the switch.  I then tried a narrow probe but all that did was push upwards the little black box next to the battery.  I can't get the tail light to work at all.

My wife, who has over 20 years model railway experience with Markin products also tried it, and was unsuccessful, she says this is Chinese crap.

I hope you can prove her wrong as Accurascale has never disappointed me previously.

Edited November 23, 2020 by cessna152towser

[McC 1,205]

As you can see, the switch is on the surface of the underside of the wagon - no 'reach' issues needed?

[cessna152towser 456]

Difficult to illustrate as my pocket camera lacks a macro setting, but there is no switch flush with the surface of the slot on the underside of the wagon.

Otherwise I am very pleased with the wagons.   They run well and the knuckle couplings even accept being propelled through Peco Setrack curved point (second radius 17.25 inch).

Much more detail than the Lima set which I sold over thirty years ago when I moved here.

Edited November 23, 2020 by cessna152towser

[McC 1,205]

1 hour ago, cessna152towser said:

Difficult to illustrate as my pocket camera lacks a macro setting, but there is no switch flush with the surface of the slot on the underside of the wagon.

Otherwise I am very pleased with the wagons.   They run well and the knuckle couplings even accept being propelled through Peco Setrack curved point (second radius 17.25 inch).

Much more detail than the Lima set which I sold over thirty years ago when I moved here.

Perhaps contact our repair team via email and we can take a closer look for you. 

Edited November 23, 2020 by McC

[Accurascale Fran 8,830]

Hi everyone,

 

Up to 66% done today, so we're getting there! Decks should be clear by Wednesday!

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

[tractor_37260 927]

1 hour ago, cessna152towser said:

Thanks for the heads up.   I tried to reach the microswitch through the slot but even the smallest Marklin screwdriver can't reach in far enough to operate the switch.  I then tried a narrow probe but all that did was push upwards the little black box next to the battery.  I can't get the tail light to work at all.

My wife, who has over 20 years model railway experience with Markin products also tried it, and was unsuccessful, she says this is Chinese crap.

I hope you can prove her wrong as Accurascale has never disappointed me previously.

 

A small flat headed jeweller's type screwdriver does the job perfectly, no need to push down, just a small flick sideways movement is all that's required to switch on/off....

[Steadfast 5,645]

2 hours ago, lyneux said:

 

Interesting, in particular:

 

D6/20 - In an emergency, when a match or spare outer wagon is not available, a Buck-eye fitted locomotive may be used.

 

So in 1991, I guess that would be stuff fitted for push/pull: 33/1s and 73s plus 86/87/90/91? Anything else?

 

Also, I thought that the British passenger buckeye and the freight version were not compatible? See Jo's comment here:

 

4 and a half years later, a bit of a follow on to that thread.

BR size buckeyes and the full size AAR ones will couple together, so an 08 with a drop head HST buckeye can be used to shunt wagons with a full size buckeye. However, it's not approved for main line usage, I've only seen it in private yards.

 

Jo

[dogbox321 505]

4 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:

 

It is times like this I realise just how lucky I am with a wife that doesn't moan. 

 

 

If it keeps you quite, she probably thinks its money well spent!    LOL!

[Roy Langridge 3,027]

4 minutes ago, dogbox321 said:

 

If it keeps you quite, she probably thinks its money well spent!    LOL!

 

Probably prefers me playing with the models as she still hasn't recovered from the shock of a call saying I was in an ambulance on the way to hospital after dislocating my elbow uncoupling the S15 at the Mid-Hants!

Roy