Manor Announced for 00

[Guest]

18 hours ago, confused said:

No one seems to have noticed on the Accurascale Manor thread.  I hadn't.

They have now.

 

15 hours ago, 57xx said:

 

A lot of people seem to be too busy being sycophantic to notice things... (not implying you, just a general observation across the board)

Not at all, I had questioned the use of a 3 pole motor for instance. 

Cheers all for now.  Have a good Christmas whatever your all doing. 

 

Edited December 23, 2021 by Guest

[Global]

6 hours ago, outatime said:

I'll go for the Dapol Manor, the rivets of the Accurascale Version are too prominent imho, especially those on the footplate.

Looking on the other thread the rivets are measured and scaled. Dapol’s looks almost ‘bald’ to me which I think adds to the plasticy look I feel. World would be boring if we all thought the same though! 

[Guest]

Last posts before break, on the other hand Dapol did manage the rivets on the large prairie.  But as before for the most part at normal operating distance for me at 17"/108 scale feet they would not visible anyway unless loco is put on its side, used Baccy 94xx above front buffers to see what I could see this morning!  Even looking at Locos at EORly. last week its similar trying to pick out detail at  100 ft+.  Hey ho.

 

Edited December 23, 2021 by Guest

[mdvle]

On 19/12/2021 at 08:42, gwrrob said:

Interestingly the sound option is dearer than the Accurascale model but the base model is around £30 cheaper.

 

Cost difference in China installing vs. UK install at a guess.

 

China is easy - your relatively cheap labour simply installs the DCC decoder prior to final model assembly and packaging.

 

UK - needs to be taken out of package, access to socket opened up, chip installed, now put back together and repackaged at UK labour rates.

 

[adb968008]

3 hours ago, mdvle said:

 

Cost difference in China installing vs. UK install at a guess.

 

China is easy - your relatively cheap labour simply installs the DCC decoder prior to final model assembly and packaging.

 

UK - needs to be taken out of package, access to socket opened up, chip installed, now put back together and repackaged at UK labour rates.

 

 

On 19/12/2021 at 14:42, gwrrob said:

 

Interestingly the sound option is dearer than the Accurascale model but the base model is around £30 cheaper.

£30 to fit a sound chip ?
If I need a second income I just found it.

[Les1952]

1 hour ago, adb968008 said:

 

£30 to fit a sound chip ?
If I need a second income I just found it.

 

You would be in a crowded market place.  £30 seems to be the going rate for anything that doesn't need surgery to get the chip in - also includes setting up the CVs to get a decent volume, performance that isn't too unrealistic and the right number of chuffs per revolution.  Plus unpacking, testing and repackaging securely.

 

For something like a Hornby J94 which needs hard wiring and hacksaw surgery to the tank weight you could be talking £60 for fitting - in that case I do the surgery myself before the loco goes for fitting.  Home fitting seems to involve an age or two of playing with CVs to get the loco set up correctly, - or at least on the ones I do......

 

All the very best

Les

 

Edited December 23, 2021 by Les1952
addendum

[adb968008]

12 hours ago, Les1952 said:

 

You would be in a crowded market place.  £30 seems to be the going rate for anything that doesn't need surgery to get the chip in - also includes setting up the CVs to get a decent volume, performance that isn't too unrealistic and the right number of chuffs per revolution.  Plus unpacking, testing and repackaging securely.

 

In my pre-uni days I used to do repairs for several model shops in my area, all kinds of stuff came in, and later built upto doing the Lima reps official repairs (and an authorised Hornby repair specialist). I learned much of who made what this way.

Loads of fun, cut my teeth modelling (literally as I crashed on my bike on ice on one occasion). Spares were easy to come by, and I had a pool of demics to rob.

 

Great whilst still at home, funded by my collection well, I had a nice stream of work, all manufacturers of stuff that customers brought in, but it only earned me a fiver a loco… I probably did c10 locos a week, none really took more than an hour, (+ nearly a whole batch of brand new 42760 Lima crabs!). Lasted me into Uni as well, but it driedup as shops closed in the 90’s recession, and work in bars/restaurants earned me more.

 

Though three things rubbed off… I still have huge piles of spares, I collect spares more than locos ! Nearly everything I buy I go under the hood straight away.. and like all engineers my layout is a mess. I admit I to considerable demic shopping on ebay by default today.

 

It seems to me though repairs today is a wasted art.. few shops need / want to handle repairs, spares arent easy to find, postage/packing adds to the cost and I can understand the prices charged above, equally those buying them are less “normal” people but more likely to fix it themselves anyway as the hobbies own customer base has adapted… so that would explain the crowded market place, but equally wouldnt that reduce the price unless repair specialist demand just isn't there anyway ? - you can see why its easier for people just to dump it on ebay rather than fix it.

 

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by adb968008

[MikeParkin65]

 Found this on YouTube. 

[adb968008]

1 hour ago, MikeParkin65 said:

 Found this on YouTube. 

At 5m35 it sounds like a Spitfire was flying over head.

 

Looks all round quite nice.

[Butler Henderson]

Is the livery not almost as bad as Hornbys A2s ?

[Phil Bullock]

27 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said:

Is the livery not almost as bad as Hornbys A2s ?

I did wonder but would prefer to see it in the flesh before judging

[The Stationmaster]

The vacuum pump needs a drop of 'jungle juice' - it's a bit on the noisy side.

[B15nac]

I see there is more pictures on there website now there was a link on Facebook yesterday. Looking very good

[Harlequin]

https://www.world-of-railways.co.uk/news/Dapol-partners-with-zimo-as-78xx-enters-production

 

[sjrixon]

Very tempted by an early sound fitted one.. Go nice with a Mogul...

[rembrow]

Rails has today posted Dapol's expected releases for April and May and the Manors are showing.

[gwrrob]

On 02/03/2020 at 16:55, gwrrob said:

Great news obviously but lets see the prairie and mogul from this stable before we go overboard.

 

I now have both of these are I'm very happy with them but I feel this model will get overlooked by the better spec of the competition.

[David Stannard]

16 hours ago, gwrrob said:

 

I now have both of these are I'm very happy with them but I feel this model will get overlooked by the better spec of the competition.

 I was originally going to get one of each but when I saw that the Accurascale used cutouts on the cylinders for negotiating tighter curves I canned the order and kept with the Dapol version, I want a model that is quite happy to run around #3 Radius curves without the need of chopping down cylinders to do so and Dapol has proved their ability to do so with the models.    

[McC]

5 hours ago, David Stannard said:

 I was originally going to get one of each but when I saw that the Accurascale used cutouts on the cylinders for negotiating tighter curves I canned the order and kept with the Dapol version, I want a model that is quite happy to run around #3 Radius curves without the need of chopping down cylinders to do so and Dapol has proved their ability to do so with the models.    

 

If it helps, the accurascale manor will handle R3 curves with the 'full' cylinders in place, and we provide the slightly cut-back version in the baggie for those with tighter curves. The alternative, was make the pony inaccurate / the wrong length, which was a compromise too far for us. 

[Northmoor MPD]

7 hours ago, David Stannard said:

 I was originally going to get one of each but when I saw that the Accurascale used cutouts on the cylinders for negotiating tighter curves I canned the order and kept with the Dapol version, I want a model that is quite happy to run around #3 Radius curves without the need of chopping down cylinders to do so and Dapol has proved their ability to do so with the models.    

Maybe look at Accurascale’s updated samples… no cutouts unless you want them! 

[David Stannard]

15 hours ago, McC said:

 

If it helps, the accurascale manor will handle R3 curves with the 'full' cylinders in place, and we provide the slightly cut-back version in the baggie for those with tighter curves. The alternative, was make the pony inaccurate / the wrong length, which was a compromise too far for us. 

 

Looks like I am being well and truly tempted into getting another Manor.

[B15nac]

All very quiet can't be long now? 

[David Stannard]

24 minutes ago, B15nac said:

All very quiet can't be long now? 

 

 I received a notification from Hattons the other day stating that the Manor's will be out for release in June.   

[rembrow]

33 minutes ago, B15nac said:

All very quiet can't be long now? 

Have now appeared in Dapols advert in the June Hornby mag, as 'coming soon' and are listed as part of the next tranche of 'oo' model releases.

[Hilux5972]

On 06/05/2022 at 23:05, rembrow said:

Have now appeared in Dapols advert in the June Hornby mag, as 'coming soon' and are listed as part of the next tranche of 'oo' model releases.

I had an email from Hattons saying Dapol told them June so fingers crossed they are sailing the 7 seas as we type!