Ohmisterporter Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I just checked the Wickes site, they show 'space board insulation' in the product list. Sizes 1.2M x 0.5M x 52.5mm. Check your local store for availability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 When I was searching for it a few months back, my nearest Wicke's told me that it was probably only available from their larger stores (they have a name for them which I forget). They also told me that the company is notoriously slow at updating their web site and it is not unknown for customers to arrive expecting to find things that they haven't stocked for a year or more. Nevertheless, it's worth a try but, as I said earlier, I eventually found some in one of the larger B&Q shops. Failing that, follow up the blue foam from Sheffield links posted earlier. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete2210 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 There was still some at Yeading (Middlesex) B&Q last Wednesday, it's now reduced by the 10 sheets I brought, I'm heading that way tomorrow and I'll add an update. Pete Williams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scanman Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Last time I bought some (about a year ago), I used 'Hampdhire Insulation' - http://www.hampshireinsulations.co.uk/index.php good people. I'm close enough to pick it up so do not kn0w if they deliver - their website indicates a possibility! The can supply it in 2.4m x0.6m (I think) up to 75mm thick - but they will cut. The thinnest I've bought from them was 5mm - they didn't like cutting it & there was some wastage (which of course I paid for) but it makes grest road surfaces! All in all an excellent product for baseboards as most isues of 'Model Railroader' will confirm as our American cousins have been using it for years! Regs Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffinell Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Thanks chaps - managed to get 6 pieces in Lincoln B&Q yesterday!! - empty shelf now though. BTW - what the best way to cut it - electric jigsaw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I imagine a jigsaw or any type of saw would make a fair bit of mess. I've used one of those snap-off-blade knives, with a new blade fully extended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 No need for a jigsaw, it is very easy to cut by hand. I used an ordinary tenon saw for straight cuts and I have a dry wall hand saw that is very useful for curved and angled cut. The latter is one of the most evil looking instruments I've ever seen, but it does the job well. Both, of course, do make quite a mess! Nick ps. small surform tools like this and this are very useful for shaping the foam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted January 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2012 ..............ps. small surform tools like this and this are very useful for shaping the foam. Thanks for the 'Surform' tip Nick. I hadn't actually thought of using them! I use an old serrated bread knife for first shaping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete2210 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 There was still some at Yeading (Middlesex) B&Q last Wednesday, it's now reduced by the 10 sheets I brought, I'm heading that way tomorrow and I'll add an update. Pete Williams Yesterday in B&Q at Yeading there were nineteen sheets left. In responce to cutting I've used a steak knife when cutting a opening for tortoise point motors and always used surform tools of various sizes for shaping scenery, and agree with Nick about the dry wall hand saw, vicious but just the tool for the job. Pete Williams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2012 I have certainly had some success with an old-fashioned Surform - the sort that looks like a long file - but in case anyone hasn't realised, I do counsel working outdoors if possible, as the dust is probably not very good for you, and may cause comment from other members of the household. Since the substance is inert, I assume that spreading the dust a little isn't environmentally disastrous, although not exactly neighbour-friendly, either. As for Yeading, Pete, about 50 years ago I was waiting for a bus outside Richmond station, and there was a 90B on the bus-stand destination "Yeading, White Hart". Not a place I'd previously heard of, although I have since travelled through there - but did not patronise the pub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Jig saw works well but you need the longer blade. Cuts very easily. Surform, as suggested also extremely good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I have certainly had some success with an old-fashioned Surform - the sort that looks like a long file - but in case anyone hasn't realised, I do counsel working outdoors if possible, as the dust is probably not very good for you, and may cause comment from other members of the household. Since the substance is inert, I assume that spreading the dust a little isn't environmentally disastrous, although not exactly neighbour-friendly, either... I did almost all of the messy work in the garage with frequent use of the vacuum cleaner. At least that stopped it spreading and the couple of filled bags provided a compact way of disposal. Mind you, I expect to be finding small piles of the dust in odd corners of the garage for years to come. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted January 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2012 hi folks, I see lots of advantages of working with these materials - particularly for carving landforms for scenic sections and for trackbeds - I have not used them before myself so before I try it perhaps I could seek some advice: Looking at the B&Q website, would the following insulation board work as well? Jablite Universal Insulation Board (Single) White (L)1200mm x (W)450mm x (T)50mm http://www.diy.com/nav/build/insulation/constructional-insulation/insulation_boards/Jablite-Universal-Insulation-Board-Single-White-L-1200mm-x-W-450mm-x-T-50mm-9273749 It's quite cheap and is 100% polystyrene - so will cutting it up just create a load of mess and hard to work with pieces?! And do folks spray the stuff with primer after cutting and then build up scenic paints and scatters? Any suggestions most welcome! cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Looking at the B&Q website, would the following insulation board work as well? Jablite Universal Insulation Board (Single) White (L)1200mm x (W)450mm x (T)50mm http://www.diy.com/n...-T-50mm-9273749 It's quite cheap and is 100% polystyrene - so will cutting it up just create a load of mess and hard to work with pieces?! Unfortunately Keith, that Jablite appears to be "expanded" Polystyrene like the usual stuff used as a packing material and not "extruded" Polystyrene like the Pink and Blue foam. You won't be able to work it anyway near as well and the results will be millions of those pesky Polystyrene beads getting everywhere. Personally I'd say avoid it ! . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted January 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thanks Ron - right, we'll not be getting any of that stuff then! I see that B&Q also have something called 'Polyboard': http://www.diy.com/nav/build/insulation/constructional-insulation/flooring_insulation/Jablite-Flooring-Polyboard-L-2400-W-x-1200-x-T-50mm-9415189 which is described as 'easy to cut', but is this the same expanded stuff rather than extruded? Cheers, Keith - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 And do folks spray the stuff with primer after cutting and then build up scenic paints and scatters? cheers, Keith This might be useful info on how I cover this stuff for scenery. Sculptamold makes for a very light but strong covering on this stuff. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/61/entry-8104-the-wonder-of-sculptamold/ Spaceboard is designed for loft flooring so its a lot stronger in compression than the other types that are generally designed for wall or room insulation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I see that B&Q also have something called 'Polyboard': A quick look through the Jablite website shows that all their foam insulation products are listed as being made from EPS (expanded Polystyrene). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Yes, as Ron says, the real thing is extruded, not expanded, polystyrene. They are really very different materials with quite different properties. Expanded is ok for landscape forming if it is used on a firm base, but extruded is much stronger and is better for the base and landscape. As to covering it, I'm using sculptamold as mentioned by craigwelsh above. When dry it gives an excellent hard surface that is easily painted. Some folk mix powder paints or other colouring into it so that knocks don't show, though I've not done this. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob T Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Evenin' all, There is plenty of the Knauf pink stuff left at Wickes Catford Bridge. Currently a very reasonable £5.99 per sheet, or £4.99 if you buy more than 10. Hope it helps, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted January 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2012 A note of thanks to Nick, Ron and craigwelsh for your replies and responses to my queries - much appreciated. Shame we don't have Wickes over here in NI but I'll see if I an source some of the 'Knauf pink stuff' locally somewhere. It certainly sounds ideal for helping me along with my current project as I am about to start putting down the trackbed and developing embankments etc. cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Still lots of the pink stuff in Wickes Eastbourne... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 If anyone is still searching for pink spaceboard and lives in the Frome area you could try this item on ebay, 230752192607. I have no connection with the seller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted March 7, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2012 Here you go Mickey http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/46161-knauf-pink-polyfoam-space-board-insulation-boards/page__fromsearch__1 ...anyway Wickes have it in stock in the from of 4 foot by 10 inch sheets Is it the pink stuff? Dense extruded or the cream expanded soft stuff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted March 7, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks Mickey. It sounds like 'Cellotex' wall insulation which I personally wouldn't use as it's prone to warping and its a little too crumbly for my liking but it is good for scenic substructure. I've checked Knauf's site and they say that it (the pink 'Polyfoam Space Board') is stocked by Wickes, but I can't find it on a less than helpful website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted March 7, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2012 i know there is a topic on the stuf buried in her somewhere but i cant find it...... anyway Wickes have it in stock in the from of 4 foot by 10 inch sheets This is the stuff I think. But it's 1200mm x 500 mm (or 49 in x 20 in old money). Not sure how one of the prices quoted is "£11.65 per each"! http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/161280 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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