35A Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Don't think it can be either of these, they were not dual-braked until 1970 and 1972 respectively. As Dave's Flickr commenter says - D192 fresh out from Brush refurb in August 1967. Good call! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I can't think of an excuse for getting it wrong this time. David No excuse needed dave - just please keep em coming! Phil Wot 'e said ^^^^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I wonder if the Ruston on Gunness Wharf made it into preservation? AFAIK, Judith edge do, or are doing, the Janus in 4mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Cumbria today to have a look at the WCML over the years. ocker Virgin Class 821 DVT up ex pass 19th July 03 C26308 Docker Garths view north Feb 73 C1204 Scout Green Class 50 down ex pass Feb 73 C1202 09.00Euston to Carlisle (and Blackpool) Scout Green Class 87 down 17th Aug 76 C2989 Shap Wells Class 86 up 17th Aug 76 C2985 David Edited January 9, 2017 by DaveF 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2017 Hi, Dave. What a lovely set of WCML photos. In C1202, the 50, if the headcode can be believed, is working train 1P18. Well that is certainly class 1, P for Preston, is it - hence, if correct, the short rake of coaches. I like the snow scene in C1204. Very seasonal. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) A visit to Crich this afternoon to see some preserved trams. It has changed a lot since these photos were taken on visits in 1968 and 1979. Crich Sheffield 510 Sheffield 189 and Glasgow 819 Sept 68 J1435 Crich Prague 180 Sept 68 J1449 Crich New York 674 April 79 C4452 Crich Sheffield Horse tram 15 April 79 C4453 Crich Wakebridge Halt Glasgow Tram 1282 27th Oct 79 C4857 David Edited January 8, 2017 by DaveF 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Trains seen at Bottesford today. Just a reminder that Bottesford is on the GNR route between Grantham and Nottingham. Bottesford Class 31 D5621 down iron ore March 70 J2079 Bottesford Class 104 Nottingham to Grantham 29th Nov 80 C5230 Bottesford Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester July 81 C5444 Bottesford 20068 and 20073 Nottingham to Skegness July 81 C5445 Bottesford Class 114 Nottingham to Skegness July 81 C5461 David Edited January 8, 2017 by DaveF 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 C5445....... 20068 was partnered with 20073 throughout July 81'on numerous Derby Skegness and Burton Skeggy workings for your info Dave. Regards Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2017 C5444. Cor, look at them ripples! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyewipe Jct Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Lovely photos again Dave.C5230, though - Class 104 rather than Class 114, I think Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2017 Lovely photos again Dave. C5230, though - Class 104 rather than Class 114, I think Kevin I must remember to read the captions after I type them, the catalogue does say 104, so it was my copying error. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted January 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2017 A visit to Crich this afternoon to see some preserved trams. It has changed a lot since these photos were taken on visits in 1968 and 1979. Crich Prague 180 Sept 68 J1449.jpg Crich Prague 180 Sept 68 J1449 Hardly recognisable these days, somewhere near your image now looks more like this. Have been there with our three girls, first time in 2005 as in the photo. Last year took our first grandson and we have always had a good day out. Well worth a visit, not just for boys and not just about trams. Dave 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2017 Hi, Dave. A good selection of photos from Crich. Great to see the trams in those photos. The photos from Bottesford are equally good. Now in the first one of D5621, I see it is one of the green 31's with full yellow ends and the double arrow in the middle of the body sides. And in C5461, the class 114 has a class 105 Cravens unit coupled up at the rear. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Photos taken at Burton le Coggles today on the ECML, just north of Corby Glen. I'm not sure if the loco numbers in the first 4 were recorded at the time or if they have been deciphered from the slides later. Burton le Coggles Class 47 up Aug 71 J2758 SO 16.00 Kings X to Edimburgh Burton le Coggles Class 47 down Kings X to Newcastle Aug 71 J2759 SO 15.25 Kings X to Bradford Burton le Coggles Class 31 5640 down carflats Aug 71 J2761 Burton le Coggles Class 55 9013? down Kings X to Aug 71 J2762 16.10 Kings X to Edinburgh Burton le Coggles Class 47 down ex pass Aug 72 C1137 15.10 FO Kings X to Leeds David Edited January 10, 2017 by DaveF 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hi, Dave. An excellent set of ECML photo's at Burton le Coggles. In J2762, the 55 is certainly not 9009, it could, however, be either 9004, although there is no crest above the nameplate, or 9019. I hope this is of some help. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hello Dave, J2761, those aren't 'cartics', was going to suggest 'carflats', but not sure about that either. Well not in the sense of the 'Motorail' ones anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Hi, Dave. An excellent set of ECML photo's at Burton le Coggles. In J2762, the 55 is certainly not 9009, it could, however, be either 9004, although there is no crest above the nameplate, or 9019. I hope this is of some help. With warmest regards, Rob. Don't think it's 9019, Rob, that is a double line plate. I might hazard a guess at 9013, as here: http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/9013.htm ETH fitting date suits as well. Edited January 9, 2017 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hello Dave, J2761, those aren't 'cartics', was going to suggest 'carflats', but not sure about that either. Well not in the sense of the 'Motorail' ones anyway. They are Carflats, mainly from the 'Freight' pool of them, so painted in BR Freight Brown. It's hard to say, but it looks as though there could be vehicles based on several different underframes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Hello Dave, J2761, those aren't 'cartics', was going to suggest 'carflats', but not sure about that either. Well not in the sense of the 'Motorail' ones anyway. Don't think it's 9019, Rob, that is a double line plate. I might hazard a guess at 9013, as here: http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/9013.htm ETH fitting date suits as well. They are Carflats, mainly from the 'Freight' pool of them, so painted in BR Freight Brown. It's hard to say, but it looks as though there could be vehicles based on several different underframes. Many thanks for the information. I've just had another look at dad's slide catalogue and he had written that the cars appear to be new Fords. David Edited January 9, 2017 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Ford had terminals at Wakefield and Gateshead at the time, I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted January 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Scout Green Class 50 down ex pass Feb 73 C1202. 1P18 was the 09:00 Euston - Carlisle/Blackpool in 1973, with the rear 7 coaches forming the 12.24 to Blackpool at Preston. Edited January 9, 2017 by stovepipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 J2762 1S42 is the 16.00 King's Cross-Edinburgh. For much of its existence 'The Talisman' but I think not carrying the name at the time the photo was taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1E13 was the summer Saturdays 11:50 Edinburgh-KX 1L26 was the summer Saturdays 15:25 KX-Bradford (assuming it was Saturday, otherwise it was the 16:05SX) 1L21 was the 15:10FO KX-Leeds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2017 Scout Green Class 50 down ex pass Feb 73 C1202. 1P18 was the 09:00 Euston - Carlisle/Blackpool in 1973, with the rear 7 coaches forming the 12.24 to Blackpool at Preston. J2762 1S42 is the 16.00 King's Cross-Edinburgh. For much of its existence 'The Talisman' but I think not carrying the name at the time the photo was taken. 1E13 was the summer Saturdays 11:50 Edinburgh-KX 1L26 was the summer Saturdays 15:25 KX-Bradford (assuming it was Saturday, otherwise it was the 16:05SX) 1L21 was the 15:10FO KX-Leeds Many thanks for all these train identifications. The SO and FO trains at Burton le Coggles make sense when I look at other photos taken around the dates in my and dad's notes.. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Don't think it's 9019, Rob, that is a double line plate. I might hazard a guess at 9013, as here: http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/9013.htm ETH fitting date suits as well. I'd go with that, as well, based upon the fact that the other three candidates (9000, 9004 and 9016) all still had their crests at that time - Deltic 4 was also only released from works four days before the end of August 1971. I would challenge the Brush 4 identities in J2758 and J2759, as well. The former can't be 1532, as that loco was in the early blue livery style (with cabside numbers and double-arrows behind each cab door) by August 1968 . Similarly, the latter can't be 1575, as that loco was also in the same earlier blue livery style. Around that time it was commonly known as "the Sheffield loco", as it seemed to spend most of its time on the "Master Cutler", or spare at Sheffield Midland (although it did make very sporadic appearances on the ECML, despite being Tinsley based). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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