brianusa Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Can anyone explain what exactly happens when all are unloaded and where does it all end up. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2016 Can anyone explain what exactly happens when all are unloaded and where does it all end up. Brian. Good question, Brian. Far as I know it all goes out by road to various concrete mixing plants around the area. There seems to be one heck of a lot of house building going on around Cornwall and Devon at the mo and can only assume this is why its here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2016 . There seems to be one heck of a lot of house building going on around Cornwall and Devon at the mo and can only assume this is why its here. Among many other projects Hayle is set to virtually double in size, the equivalent of a new town is to be built at the back of Newquay and there are many medium-sized home-building schemes under way. Here is not the place to argue the merits or otherwise of such things but the destruction of countryside and complete change in the character of some towns and villages is causing significant concern in some quarters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Among many other projects Hayle is set to virtually double in size, the equivalent of a new town is to be built at the back of Newquay and there are many medium-sized home-building schemes under way. Here is not the place to argue the merits or otherwise of such things but the destruction of countryside and complete change in the character of some towns and villages is causing significant concern in some quarters. You have to provide all those Lunduners their weekend retreat somewhere! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2016 You have to provide all those Lunduners their weekend retreat somewhere! Many a true word... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Among many other projects Hayle is set to virtually double in size, the equivalent of a new town is to be built at the back of Newquay and there are many medium-sized home-building schemes under way. Here is not the place to argue the merits or otherwise of such things but the destruction of countryside and complete change in the character of some towns and villages is causing significant concern in some quarters. It gives concern in this quarter to think that such development is spoiling the very thing that draws people to Cornwall; sprawling over development! I've not been home in a while and can only dread the changes. I am fortunate to remember the county as it was before crowds, traffic and development, when you could park in Fowey or Mevagissey and the only drawback were the Tamar ferries. So you might have taken the train over the bridge and arrived at your destination without the hassles of traffic tailbacks and overcrowded parking which only occurred after the many 'improvements' of the main roads. At least I can remember the good times! Brian. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted December 16, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2016 I would argue there were "good times" before the A30 road was dualled. When Temple is finished they start on Carland - Chiverton and that will mean near-motorway standard road all the way to the Camborne by-pass. Only the last few miles down to and around Hayle and on to Penzance and Lands End will remain single-carriageway. When I bought the house in Hayle there were about 5000 permanent year-round residents and another 1000 or so in summer. IT's now up to 7000 with a Government target of around 9500 and a huge number of homes under construction. The bus service has been improved from once to four times an hour but still only around half of all trains stop. The station is a disgrace with nothing but a bare waiting hut without even a seat. Hardly an encouragement to leave the car home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co-tr-Paul Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 605 just sent from pz to rescue failed freight at Par..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Good question, Brian. Far as I know it all goes out by road to various concrete mixing plants around the area. There seems to be one heck of a lot of house building going on around Cornwall and Devon at the mo and can only assume this is why its here. There is also developments taking place in both Plymouth and Exeter City Centre's at the moment, so some concrete will no doubt be heading back into Devon - the terminal at Moorswater being a convenient point for the SW. Exeter's next big city centre development will being next year and see the Bus / Coach station site replaced with a new larger leisure centre, the bus station then moving to the former bus depot site and associated redevelopment around there. Nice to see it running with another 21 Wagons today! Bagged cement traffic should be possible with Colas - They took the remaining 'Ferrywaggons' out of Eastleigh a little while ago, and some are now in use in Scotland on the Aberdeen / Oxwellmains. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2016 Would seem a bit perverse to unload cement for Exeter at Moorswater - it would be nice to think a terminal could be established at Riverside & the load split there, but that would probably be uneconomical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2016 Cement traffic to Exeter could surely be handled at Riverside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted December 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2016 Cement traffic to Exeter could surely be handled at Riverside? Potentially, although the land area formerly leased to Colas Rail/Kronospan for the timber may yet still be formally leased to these parties. The tricky bit about Riverside is the lack of much clear land next to one of the sidings that could be used to unload the cement wagons, and also without getting in the way of the Hanson aggregates operation. Some kind of portable, direct rail to road system would be best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Just think, Riverside was once large enough for anything! Merry Christmas, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted December 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2016 Just think, Riverside was once large enough for anything! Merry Christmas, Brian. Well, Riverside wasn't really a goods loading or unloading yard, it was really more of a marshalling yard. 'Traditional' goods facilities were provided elsewhere in Exeter. At least Riverside still retains the majority of the roads that it originally had. A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year likewise to you, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) Potentially, although the land area formerly leased to Colas Rail/Kronospan for the timber may yet still be formally leased to these parties. The tricky bit about Riverside is the lack of much clear land next to one of the sidings that could be used to unload the cement wagons, and also without getting in the way of the Hanson aggregates operation. Some kind of portable, direct rail to road system would be best. Edited December 24, 2016 by Trackrat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) There are plans afoot to remodel riverside properly this time. Edited December 24, 2016 by Trackrat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted December 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2016 Potentially, although the land area formerly leased to Colas Rail/Kronospan for the timber may yet still be formally leased to these parties. Does that mean the timber traffic isn't running anymore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted December 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2016 There are plans afoot to remodel riverside properly this time. Probably driven by the money-motived suits in Swindon, who want ever less infrastructure to have to maintain, unless someone has decided to dust off that awful FGW/GWR plan, which I strove for so long to defeat. Does that mean the timber traffic isn't running anymore? 'Fraid so, Rich. There are plans afoot to remodel riverside properly this time. Who says it wasn't done properly last time, anyway? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Probably driven by the money-motived suits in Swindon, who want ever less infrastructure to have to maintain, unless someone has decided to dust off that awful FGW/GWR plan, which I strove for so long to defeat. 'Fraid so, Rich. Who says it wasn't done properly last time, anyway? Which awful FGW / GWR Plan was that if you don't mind me asking CK? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted December 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2016 There are plans afoot to remodel riverside properly this time. Oi!! some of us put a lot of sweat into that job! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted December 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2016 Which awful FGW / GWR Plan was that if you don't mind me asking CK? There was a darstardly plan to wipe out what is the only remaining viable large rail freight location in the South West that is still in NR's hands and convert it into a DMU depot, but it eventually (and only after a massive amount of argy-bargy) got kicked into touch. Oi!! some of us put a lot of sweat into that job! Quite right too, and a very job you chaps did at the time! So do you know anything of the latest plan, Gary? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted December 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2016 There was a darstardly plan to wipe out what is the only remaining viable large rail freight location in the South West that is still in NR's hands and convert it into a DMU depot, but it eventually (and only after a massive amount of argy-bargy) got kicked into touch. Quite right too, and a very job you chaps did at the time! So do you know anything of the latest plan, Gary? No, not heard anything about Riverside as yet Tim. We re-laid the 2 stabling sidings on the down side by new yard for GW but apart from that not a lot in that area as yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 The information came from 2 blokes working for one of the FOC's. they seemed to think that proper hard standing was going in and maybe move a siding across. But when, where and by whom they didn't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Which awful FGW / GWR Plan was that if you don't mind me asking CK? That awful plan that meant we would have had a fit for purpose DMU depot with the required capacity, unlike the present depot which is far too small for the number of units which have to go through every night! The plans for the new depot (on the present site) doesnt have any real extra capacity or flexibility either, and there are some serious operational issues with the plans as posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Didn't they look to up to Exmouth junction at one point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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