Warley NEC Exhibition November 26th and 27th 2016

[modelpara]

Close, it's the Diesel Electric version (BR class O7).

There is an article in BRM on modifying it too.

[81C]

There is an article in BRM on modifying it too.

WOW. 

[298]

There looks like a lovely red sunset over the area of the ancient Arden forest tonight.

[woodenhead]

Thought it was lacking in layouts then found another corner and a bargain 2 BIL SR to boot.

 

Another good show even if Hornby ignored its roots and didn't announce anything Southern today

[81C]

What is insulated ale?

 

Chris

It's the new name for Fosters that Aussie p!ss.

[big jim]

had a few hours there today, i didn't have a look at any layouts, just went for the trade side of things

 

came away with a couple of items from the Bachmann scrummage sale, an NSE thumper for £100 and a weathered EWS 37 for £60 so happy with those, dont need a thumper but at that price it wasn't staying there!

 

caught up with a few people, newbryford, nick gurney, andy Y and a few others, impressed with the Hornby 87 and IEP, dissapointed the Bachmann collectors club model wasnt my era, happy to see a colas 60 in next years Hornby range, modified air intake Bachmann class 70 looks nice too

 

could have happily come away with a few more locos from magazine stands but resisted, model rail euro 66 at £90 (iirc) and Hornby mag GBRf 66 at £99 were tempting

 

worth the trip in my opinion anyway 

[Grasslands]

TMC have announced 17 wagons being produced for them by Bachmann.

Includes plate wagons, insulated ale wagons and a Maunsell cycle van.

Delivery date of the Class 07 'Late 2017'? Jolly good, I now have a deadline for finishing off my brass one.

[Grasslands]

fresh off the Model rail stand:

 

 

Apologies if it is on its side

 

 

 

Oh my God! That would be amazing and would stop me devising strange alchemy-like ways of producing one without sideplates.

[woodenhead]

I couldn't get close to the Bachmann scrum, more confused because it wasn't with the Bachmann stand and I only saw it later when I noticed a zombie horde next to the burger van but they weren't hungry for meat.

 

Amazed again at the volume of N gauge stuff Dapol bring to their stand versus the other gauges.

 

When I arrived it took me a bit to find the layouts as a lot of the trade seemed to be in the first two columns of stands - probably quite a good thing.

 

Best layout I saw was the massive European one with the scenic fiddlyard round the back - i could only see two operators versus a football team on the large O Modern Image that lost power.

[Pacific231G]

It's another Urban Myth, somewhat along the lines of the better-known 'leftover wine' some people claim to be able to cook with.

 

But if you could find any, a couple of pints would be wonderful for keeping the cold out ...

What's wrong with cooking with leftover wine ? Sometimes you don't want to drink the whole of the third bottle. 

[ruggedpeak]

Yes, Model Rail had their Euro 66's at £90 and the USA tanks reduced. I fought valiantly and resisted both, though both are excellent. The LMR Tank is a lovely thing. I did score earl doors with a Hornby limited edition EWS 67 and 3x MHA's for less than other traders' prices for the EWS 67 on its own. I think there was a blunder as later in the day the set was £50 more and the same price as everyone else. Still pleased Hornby have got a grip and are back on the ball. Had good chat with Ben Ando at Revolution about the Pendo and OO gauge TEA prototypes that arrived during the day as well as ancient burial sites! Discovered the Severn Models etch signal box drawings are the ones used for for T gauge box I built - they look identical (see T gauge section on here). Overall, first time at Warley, enjoyed it.

[Chris M]

I couldn't get close to the Bachmann scrum, more confused because it wasn't with the Bachmann stand and I only saw it later when I noticed a zombie horde next to the burger van but they weren't hungry for meat.

 

Amazed again at the volume of N gauge stuff Dapol bring to their stand versus the other gauges.

 

When I arrived it took me a bit to find the layouts as a lot of the trade seemed to be in the first two columns of stands - probably quite a good thing.

 

Best layout I saw was the massive European one with the scenic fiddlyard round the back - i could only see two operators versus a football team on the large O Modern Image that lost power.

If it's the one I think you are thinking of, the big European layout was brought over, set up and operated by a husband and wife team.

[chrisd]

If it's the one I think you are thinking of, the big European layout was brought over, set up and operated by a husband and wife team.

Hasselt? Very impressive. I hope there's some form of computer control there to help them out? What kind of car do they drive to put that on the back seat?

[richard brown]

Here is a video off my highlights off today. 

 

Richard

[PaulRhB]

Very good show this year, a lot of excellent layouts and plenty going on. There were a few power cuts in various zones which stopped things a couple of times.

[caradoc]

My first visit to Warley today. Didn't start well; My Cross Country service from Oxford to Birmingham was cancelled; Then there were no bacon butties in Oxford Down side station buffet; And the next Birmingham train was really, in today's parlance, ram-packed; No seats in First or Standard Class. Not being prepared to stand all the way I baled out at Banbury and went via Moor St and New St to International, arriving 1 hour later than planned. Still, at least I missed the queue !

 

I had never been to the NEC before, what a gigantic place it is, with the Motorcycle Show taking up (I think) 3 halls. Still, I found Warley OK and got in with no delay at all. Despite having studied the guide and plan I was still taken aback by the scale of the show; What a feat it must be to organise and run everything, many thanks to all those involved, in whatever way, in putting on the show. Some random thoughts;

 

Strange that the whole hall is not used; Presumably this is because the show is charged by the floor area used, even if the remaining space is not, and cannot be, used for anything else.

 

Many, many superb layouts; I was particularly impressed by the scale and ambition of Hasselt. From what I could see of it through the crowds, Copenhagen Fields looked wonderful as well. Having singled out these two however, all the layouts had something to offer.

 

Plenty of traders, I spent all my budget, but at least Christmas (for me anyway) is sorted !

 

All the main manufacturers were there as well; Although not my era Hornby's Class 800 looked fantastic. The possibility of a Tram engine is intriguing.

 

I had planned to have lunch at Warley, especially with the variety of catering outlets in the hall. However despite the number of seats in the hall there never seemed to be any free ! Perhaps the unused space could be used for more seating in future ?

 

Overall, a show the scale of Warley is a remarkable achievement and was certainly well-attended. Many thanks again to all involved in the show. 

[chrisd]

My first visit to Warley today. Didn't start well; My Cross Country service from Oxford to Birmingham was cancelled; Then there were no bacon butties in Oxford Down side station buffet; And the next Birmingham train was really, in today's parlance, ram-packed; No seats in First or Standard Class. Not being prepared to stand all the way I baled out at Banbury and went via Moor St and New St to International, arriving 1 hour later than planned. Still, at least I missed the queue !

 

I had never been to the NEC before, what a gigantic place it is, with the Motorcycle Show taking up (I think) 3 halls. Still, I found Warley OK and got in with no delay at all. Despite having studied the guide and plan I was still taken aback by the scale of the show; What a feat it must be to organise and run everything, many thanks to all those involved, in whatever way, in putting on the show. Some random thoughts;

 

Strange that the whole hall is not used; Presumably this is because the show is charged by the floor area used, even if the remaining space is not, and cannot be, used for anything else.

 

Many, many superb layouts; I was particularly impressed by the scale and ambition of Hasselt. From what I could see of it through the crowds, Copenhagen Fields looked wonderful as well. Having singled out these two however, all the layouts had something to offer.

 

Plenty of traders, I spent all my budget, but at least Christmas (for me anyway) is sorted !

 

All the main manufacturers were there as well; Although not my era Hornby's Class 800 looked fantastic. The possibility of a Tram engine is intriguing.

 

I had planned to have lunch at Warley, especially with the variety of catering outlets in the hall. However despite the number of seats in the hall there never seemed to be any free ! Perhaps the unused space could be used for more seating in future ?

 

Overall, a show the scale of Warley is a remarkable achievement and was certainly well-attended. Many thanks again to all involved in the show.

Seconded on the seating! A great idea to use some of that spare space. 8 hours without a seat is tough

 

Great show and going back tomorrow for another slice, but I did balk at the extra £2 for a normal sized bag of crisps to accompany my pint! Even the lady serving me seemed a mite embarrassed!

[Kelly]

Busy day on the DEMU stand fettling with plastic and brass. Good fun. Looking forward to a 'quiet' day looking at the show and doing some shopping. Though I did £80 of spending without leaving the DEMU stand...

[adb968008]

Is the little red loco in the pic a Ruston Hornsby 0-6-0DH?

Cheers,

Keith

It's the class 07. It looks like it's a way off yet. (There's another one behind it in white too).

 

Heljan had the finished 1360 / 1366 tanks on display, and the A and B tanks.

Golden valley had their Port of London blue YEC 0-6-0 running on a rolling road all day too.

Oxford had EPs of the Mk3's and painted samples of the motorail wagons.

Kernow had their 1366 tanks, and at the back were DJ class 71s.

 

Of note Bachmann and Kernow had different EP's of the 4TC, when I asked, Mr Lovett, said the driving cabs have been modified on the new sample.

[MikeParkin65]

Never been on a Saturday before but with the Welsh Marches Express running tomorrow with two Black Fives tomorrow I had no choice. Not as much as a scrum as I feared it would be. L liked that not all the usual stall holders were in there 'traditional' locations - made it less of  Ground Hog day than it has seemed in recent years! Some very fine layouts - both aspirational (as in I'll never be able to do something that big that well!) and inspirational (I could do that if I upped my game!).

 

Spent way over budget but good prices and the opportunity to talk to specialist traders means value for money in my book.

 

Got a real buzz out of hearing the Hornby product announcement 1st hand and made up that they are making a new Duchess - my all time favourite loco.

 

Really enjoyed this years show - thanks to all those who have organised and contributed to it. 

[Huw Griffiths]

Busy day on the DEMU stand fettling with plastic and brass. Good fun. Looking forward to a 'quiet' day looking at the show and doing some shopping. Though I did £80 of spending without leaving the DEMU stand...

It doesn't sound like you've quite got the idea of this exhibiting malarkey.

 

I always thought the idea of manning show stands was to encourage VISITORS to spend THEIR money … .

 

 

Huw.

[Chrisr40]

Hornby are doing their TTS decoders as separate items for £40.

Hooray !! I will happily relieve them of a few next year

[Kelly]

It doesn't sound like you've quite got the idea of this exhibiting malarkey.

 

I always thought the idea of manning show stands was to encourage VISITORS to spend THEIR money … .

 

 

Huw.

 

Well they were both items people on here and the DEMU forums had offered for sale and rather than posting had held them until Warley, so really was a case of collecting rather than an actual purchase at the show. Though the B/G NSE Kent Link EPB was worth it (thanks bigP), the other items were a couple of books. Shopping at the show starts tomorrow! Besides the point of manning the DEMU stand is to encourage more to be interested in D&E modelling (the APT-P on display helped with that it seemed) and joining the society

[The Fatadder]

Hornby are doing their TTS decoders as separate items for £40.

I had been thinking about buying a full fat King sound decoder, to give my daughter's a sound loco to play with other than the P4 Class 37.  However a TTS King will do the job just as well for them, and free up a fair bit of cash towards more interesting purchases...)

[adb968008]

Here's my day, started at the doors by 845 and was already a few hundred deep.

 

Having preplanned my route yesterday, I rudolphed my way over to the Bachmann stand, at 915, having a wee look at Dapol and Heljan on the way.

I was the 101st in line at the Bachmann 12ft sales stand by 916am.

The crush was kind of amusing, the tables sliding backwards the sales reps already pinned to the wall, they had no escape.

People were calling out requests to other people, "anyone see any green warships" followed by a rummage and one being passed "crocodile Dundee style over the crowd to the other side"

A sudden discovery of fairburn tanks lead to a "bingo" style me, me, yeah me, I want one too".

Another 20 locos gone and suddenly a new box is opened, this one laden with Thumpers and bluepullmans... the scrummage starts again, meanwhile 20 customers penetrated the left flanks and got through the defensive perimeter heading towards a trolley containing class 40s and other diesels. The Eastern European female catering team at the stand next door look on bemused wondering what's going on.

 

After I made my purchases it was time to explore more of the traders (I divided my morning into hunting models and the afternoon farming the layouts on display). A gander at Eileen's, Elaine's, Kernow, Hereford, etc etc (and etc and etc again).

 

Off next to the Hornby's presentation where the team announced 3 new toppings before going into a Q and A, where the CEO broke cover and came from the audience to introduce himself and took a number of questions and said where the company is and is working from, a highly positive session.

 

Lots of spares and parts stalls Gibson, RT, Railwayania followed next, picked up an addendum to Keith Parks bible on Mk1's, but alas Sheet 14 of HMRS's transfers continues to alude me...

 

In between this visits to Bachmanns stand...it was worth going twice to see the Stanier mogul.

Subway for lunch then to the layouts I found the rarest item of all... a chair to sit down on.

 

Further wandering followed where TMC talked to me about Winkles and Reachs, and continued to explain Plates, Barriers and double bolsters are also part of their 17 wagons exclusively made for them by Bachmann, and of course the Insulated Ale wagon and the Bicycle van.

 

The day wasn't just about the traders and the manufacturers, being 41 I got my first ever glimpse of a Grange... (well second but last time it didn't have a boiler, cylinders or even wheels.. 6880 today looks like a Grange).

 

On the other side of the hall was two of the VoR locos

and some fantastic layouts, a gauge 1 layout running live steam (Meths powered) including from a B1, Jinty and Britannia.

Then there was this beauty..

 

The sncb was represented with an excellant (and very long) layout of Hasselt in 2002, and another layout exclusively running rtr models from the 70's and &80's (anyone remember Hornby's 5241 in lined black ? Or the L1 4-4-0 running on a layout ?

 

The NSE was also very well represented and layouts of Moor St.

 

The only way I could describe finishing the day is knackered. I've not stopped all day and really only covered half of it. In 2017 I'll make it a weekend.

 

A very good show, indeed it is the best and I didn't do too bad in the bad with the shopping either..

 

 

(Wife thinks I only spent a tenner...)