RMweb Premium dale159 Posted January 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) When I tried this, I found the CEP coach's lights only worked in one direction. Did you try it on DC or DCC? I'll be honest and say that I didn't notice that as from looking at my two pictures I think that I had the corridor sides of the CEP coaches inside the layout so I couldn't see into the compartments. I don't own a CEP so the two coaches I used were borrowed. Am I right in thinking that the CEP doesn't have directional lights on its roller blinds? Whereas the thumper does, could be something to do with that perhaps. Another thought - would the orientation of the CEP coach have an effect on that? I assume it goes a certain way around when it is used in a CEP? Dale Edited January 10, 2015 by dale159 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted January 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) I was testing this on DCC. The CEP does not have directional lights like the 205s. Edited January 10, 2015 by RFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyddrail Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 It is a three-car. The second visible coach clearly has compartment doors and windows along its full length and no engine compartment. "Berkshire" units differed only in having the full-width compartment nearest the driver in the DTC stripped out and labelled "Luggage" AFAIK. By NSE days that was reinstated as the need was for more seats not more luggage space. The depth of the headcode panel differed on later deliveries as shown but I don't recall that being specifically a "Berskhire" thing, more a change in the BR Standard design as it also occurred across other types such as 2Hap I didn't give any detail, most differences were what I call "Phase 2" although relating the Kent Coast many changes occured to finish on EMUs and DEMUs around this time. As you state interior change, and route indicator was shallower, plus cab windows curved on outer sides, additionally windscreen wipers on both cab windows, different roof vents and no lighting roof conduits, coach side windows have raised window frames instead of being inset in the sides, toilet widows have no vent or dividing bars, and different type of AWS (Westcode) with large ribbed underframe box on leading coaches. In a previous life I was a diesel fitter at St Leonards Diesel depot and then Tunbridge Wells West fuel point. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Can any one who has recently purchased a sound on board Thumper advise me on the quality of the Kernow fitted sound, I have read differing opinions on it, and am trying to decide whether to but a sound on boeard unit or a non sound and purchase an alternative sound decoder Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Can any one who has recently purchased a sound on board Thumper advise me on the quality of the Kernow fitted sound, I have read differing opinions on it, and am trying to decide whether to but a sound on boeard unit or a non sound and purchase an alternative sound decoder Thanks Awful ! Had mine re-blown by Howes, vast improvement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I think the sound is pretty good. However, I haven't heard the Howes sound to comment on whether it is better. I have used blue-tac around the speaker and this (to me) improved the quality of the sound. If you don't like the sound though, as Brian says, you can get it re-blown. I am happy with mine though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The running sounds are not too bad, although not particularly well synchronised, but the idle was nothing like what I remembered. I had mine reblown too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) I have Just ordered another Thumper! EDIT ordered Friday 2-30PM safely delivered today SATURDAY at 7-45AM!! just paid the normal £4.00 shipping cost Kernow really do well with deliveries AND I note that my receipt shows I have quite alot of Loyalty points (=CASH) to spend. Edited January 17, 2015 by Stevelewis 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy100 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) I bought a non-sound Class 205 from Kernows when it first came out. I haven't unpacked it yet, but having watched a number of Youtube clips, I now wish I had bought the sound version. Having said that I have read on here and elsewhere that some were unhappy about the sound. I emailed Kernows yesterday, and received an almost immediate reply saying " The original Bachmann sound recording was by South West Digital. They have subsequently made this available for sale (albeit with a few tweaks). The reference number is 82488 and it can be found on our website at £94.99.". So maybe they have taken on board the comments made about the sound, and in their words "albeit with a few tweaks" - I'm tempted to order this. Edited January 20, 2015 by Bulleidboy100 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 There are alternative sound units available eg Howes which are very good, I bought a 205 this week (silent) as the price will increase a lot with the new run, I am contemplating fitting sound unit, Incidentally i fitted 2 Howes sound decoders this week 1 to a Bachmann 2-EPB the other to a Hornby 01 both work well and sound acceptable PS the EPB was an easy fit took 10 mins, the 205 will be the same, so just a case of selling some more unused items to fund the 205 sound unit!! Any one want a Hornby unused Pull Push set??!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Yay !!They're on the boat................... Mid - Augusthttp://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/pg/100/Newsletter-Current Mods - Time for a thread merge with the "Decorated Sample Thread" ?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Yay !! They're on the boat................... Mid - August Mine is on that boat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted July 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2015 Are the sound fitted ones on the boat too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Are the sound fitted ones on the boat too? I've tried listening hard but can't tell, sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I would have thought the sound ones would be fitted after arriving in Britain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted July 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2015 I've never seen a picture of a two car 205 in blue/grey and I've searched through 1000s! As far as a I know, they went from B/G to NSE. Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but in Kevin Robertson's Southern Region DEMU book, there is a photo of a 2-car unit in Blue/Grey at Waterloo. I think (it was late at night when I looked) it's one of the Class 204 3T sets temporarily reduced to a 2-car. Seeing as the 2-car blue Class 205 Kernow is producing (1122) became one of the 3T sets, surely this is the proof/excuse they need to produce a 2-car blue/grey set? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Does anyone know the name of the boat, as we can track it using the marinetraffic website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but in Kevin Robertson's Southern Region DEMU book, there is a photo of a 2-car unit in Blue/Grey at Waterloo. I think (it was late at night when I looked) it's one of the Class 204 3T sets temporarily reduced to a 2-car. Seeing as the 2-car blue Class 205 Kernow is producing (1122) became one of the 3T sets, surely this is the proof/excuse they need to produce a 2-car blue/grey set? This isn't a criticism of you, Geep, but surely the thousands of pictures of all the 3-car units are the excuse that Kernow need to get on and produce the centre car?! Every £ spent on stop-gap 2-car models must reduce the amount available to spend on the version that everyone's waiting for, with 3 coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted July 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2015 ... and if Kernow produce that centre car, then they and Bachmann can get together and put two of those with two motor cars from the 2EPB and, hey presto!, a 4EPB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted July 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2015 ... and if Kernow produce that centre car, then they and Bachmann can get together and put two of those with two motor cars from the 2EPB and, hey presto!, a 4EPB. They (Bachmann and Kernow) could already put together the Driving Trailer Composite from the 2H with the EPB motor coach to produce a 2HAP, but they don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted July 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2015 They (Bachmann and Kernow) could already put together the Driving Trailer Composite from the 2H with the EPB motor coach to produce a 2HAP, but they don't. The details differ; underframe equipment isn't the same on diesel and electric units and there would need to be a third first class compartment where the 205 has a stripped-out luggage compartment. Aside from that one is privately commissioned and the other a catalogue release. Why would a business paying a premium price to commission a model then allow that to be used for the commercial gain solely of the manufacturer? While I don't doubt there is considerable co-operation and goodwill between Kernow MRC and Bachmann we are not comparing two like items here. If, on the other hand, rights to the commission expire after a given time then we might see the 2H DTC adapted and matched with a 2EPB DMBS to form a 2Hap at some future time. The next tranche of Thumpers are still in transit from China so any such use of the DTC is likely to be quite some time away yet as not all of the commissioned items have yet been delivered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted July 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2015 The details differ; underframe equipment isn't the same on diesel and electric units and there would need to be a third first class compartment where the 205 has a stripped-out luggage compartment. Aside from that one is privately commissioned and the other a catalogue release. Why would a business paying a premium price to commission a model then allow that to be used for the commercial gain solely of the manufacturer? While I don't doubt there is considerable co-operation and goodwill between Kernow MRC and Bachmann we are not comparing two like items here. If, on the other hand, rights to the commission expire after a given time then we might see the 2H DTC adapted and matched with a 2EPB DMBS to form a 2Hap at some future time. The next tranche of Thumpers are still in transit from China so any such use of the DTC is likely to be quite some time away yet as not all of the commissioned items have yet been delivered. Exactly! The point I was trying to make was that Budgie's suggestion (laudable though it is) of a co-operative venture to produce a 4EPB is unlikely, for the same reasons that a 2HAP hasn't happened. In fact, given Bachmanns past statements regarding the popularity of 4 coach units, it's even less likely. This is a great shame from my perspective as I would buy some. But I understand the esoteric nature of things southern electric to most UK railway modellers. I'm also waiting for 3H and a 4BEP, but I ain't holding my breath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 According to the latest Kernow newsletter, the NSE and green with syp Thumpers are also on the way, delivery late August to early September: http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/pg/100/Newsletter-Current Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 And there is an 'ALL NEW' Legomanbiffo Sound decoder nearly finished, 'JUST IN TIME' !! Its good too. Charlie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted August 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2015 This isn't a criticism of you, Geep, but surely the thousands of pictures of all the 3-car units are the excuse that Kernow need to get on and produce the centre car?! Every £ spent on stop-gap 2-car models must reduce the amount available to spend on the version that everyone's waiting for, with 3 coaches. None taken. I just found it curious that Kernow say they have no evidence, yet there is the one solitary photo of a Blue & Grey 2 car unit in a mainstream publication. I'm guessing that it's because it is captioned as a Class 204 (and they are numbered as such), and there is such a very narrow time frame that these units would have been in this condition, that Kernow thought there wouldn't be much demand for them. However, if they want some more business, I would certainly be interested in a separate centre car to run with my all blue unit (when it arrives). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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