RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 18, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2019 So no-one's spotted the potentially catastrophic wiring cock-up yet? I probably ought not to connect the lower track directly to the 12v dc input power feed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Stubby47 said: So no-one's spotted the potentially catastrophic wiring cock-up yet? I probably ought not to connect the lower track directly to the 12v dc input power feed. I had spotted 2 wires going off somewhere to power something uncontrolled, but was too polite to mention it. I look forward to seeing the trains whizzing around, under control, when it is all wired up and running. Well done in documenting where and what the wires are. I wish other people would do the same, especially the clubs I have belonged to. It does help when trying to debug a problem, even if it is your own train set. And I should know. There are even more wires now since I put in the signal wiring. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Stubby47 said: Wooden dowels now in place, just need to position and connect the servos. They will be outside the board, at the rear, for ease of access and to be closer to the control boards. More pics when this is all in place. However, trying out the position has enabled me to determine which pair of connections to use on the DPDT switch, so the orientation of the toggle indicates the track selected. I like that method of operating points but I've used curtain eyes to support the dowel. What are those white those brackets, I like the look of them, they look pretty sturdy? Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, sb67 said: I like that method of operating points but I've used curtain eyes to support the dowel. What are those white those brackets, I like the look of them, they look pretty sturdy? Steve. They are corner brackets, available from most hardware places. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06W2MZY7F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_s.XGDbFVT0WEB I've just drilled out one hole to pass the 6mm dowel through. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Stubby47 said: So no-one's spotted the potentially catastrophic wiring cock-up yet? I probably ought not to connect the lower track directly to the 12v dc input power feed. Hi Stu Should it be more like this? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi Stu Should it be more like this? Exactly, full marks Mr M. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2019 Electrical bits have arrived. More electrical bits that should have been on the 1st order have now been ordered. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2019 Here are the individual wiring diagrams. Controllers: Servos: The Circle track power: Uncouplers: A pack of 11 colours of wires (x 2m) has been ordered from Railway Scenics (no connection, other than did I mention they are coming to the 2020 SWAG party in Taunton). These will be used to wire the control panel in a similar colour pattern to the above diagrams. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Stubby47 said: They are corner brackets, available from most hardware places. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06W2MZY7F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_s.XGDbFVT0WEB I've just drilled out one hole to pass the 6mm dowel through. Thanks Stubby, that is a neat idea Steve. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted September 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2019 18 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said: I had spotted 2 wires going off somewhere to power something uncontrolled, but was too polite to mention it. I look forward to seeing the trains whizzing around, under control, when it is all wired up and running. Well done in documenting where and what the wires are. I wish other people would do the same, especially the clubs I have belonged to. It does help when trying to debug a problem, even if it is your own train set. And I should know. There are even more wires now since I put in the signal wiring. Sorry to steer away for a second Stu, but Clive care to explain the nuts with crimps which look like they could be your droppers there in the photo? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2019 40 minutes ago, AdeMoore said: Sorry to steer away for a second Stu, but Clive care to explain the nuts with crimps which look like they could be your droppers there in the photo? Cheers I think they are the back of the point stud contacts. Neat idea with the cable crimps - I used 3 nuts per brass bolt which was a pain to wire up. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2019 5 hours ago, AdeMoore said: Sorry to steer away for a second Stu, but Clive care to explain the nuts with crimps which look like they could be your droppers there in the photo? Cheers Hi Ade Stu gets the house point tonight. They are solder tags bolted on to the control panel. The bolt heads act as studs for the probe and stud contact method I use for point control. Nip back a couple of pages and there is a photo of the front of the control panel (that is bigger than Stu's layout). 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AdeMoore Posted September 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2019 Ha! I just couldn’t suss what I was looking at! Never mind I’ll crawl back under my stone.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 hours ago, AdeMoore said: Ha! I just couldn’t suss what I was looking at! Never mind I’ll crawl back under my stone.... Ade, do ask. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 20, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2019 Prior to this evening's episode of model railway mayhem, I spent some time in the garage designing the control panel. I have the necessary thin ply and stripwood in stock, so just need to mark out, cut and glue the bits together. A demountable panel of 10" × 6" will be hung on the left end of the layout, connected by the 25-way cable detailed above. One extra provision I do need is a contradiction of the earlier mistake - I do need to allow a direct plug-in to the track feed for The Circle, to allow use of a different controller. Hopefully this panel will start to take shape tomorrow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2019 Bits. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2019 Panel switches now wired up. The dangling wires are for the power supplies and controller input. I still need to add the power/controller sockets, plus add the main layout cable to the 25-way choc block. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) And the panel from the front. Not sure on the finish yet - varnished wood, painted green ( as Tinner's Forge frame, and this eventually ), white... dunno yet. Edited September 23, 2019 by Stubby47 Pic added Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Rail Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 19/09/2019 at 00:25, Clive Mortimore said: I had spotted 2 wires going off somewhere to power something uncontrolled, but was too polite to mention it. I look forward to seeing the trains whizzing around, under control, when it is all wired up and running. Well done in documenting where and what the wires are. I wish other people would do the same, especially the clubs I have belonged to. It does help when trying to debug a problem, even if it is your own train set. And I should know. There are even more wires now since I put in the signal wiring. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted September 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2019 18 hours ago, Stubby47 said: Bits. Nice picture of your bits, Stu. 1 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 23, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2019 22 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Nice picture of your bits, Stu. Bits now in place. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2019 I dream of hardwood ply. Luxury. Drool. Mike. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Stubby47 said: Bits now in place. Call that a control panel........I have built layouts bigger than that. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 23, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Call that a control panel........I have built layouts bigger than that. It's 30ft x 18ft, I was stood 3 doors down to photograph it. Edited September 23, 2019 by Stubby47 Can't multiply properly... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 24, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2019 Due to a slightly inclement weather situation in sunny Cornwall, this evening's walking football was cancelled. Instead, I have been adding the controller sockets for the Stores track. Subsequent testing using the Circle has proved all wiring which has been used so far is correct. Next stage will be to wire the Stores baseboard, prior to laying the track and fitting the servos. This can be done with flying leads which will just leave the 25-way cable to do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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