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Well my other ‘modern classic’ the Nissan Murano failed its MOT today, thankfully just needs an inner CV boot at £11, getting it fitted Friday with any luck 

 

not bad for a car that I bought 4 years ago for £2000 as ‘a toy’ that I was planning on keeping for about 6 months to a year, it’s now done 218k miles and touch wood we should get another 12 months out of it, Im regularly tempted to change it but my wife won’t let me as she loves it! 

 

Might actually get the air air con looked in on it as it has a leak somewhere! 

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14 minutes ago, peanuts said:

single hif6 as against  twin webbers can remember if they were dcds or dcnfs on the meastro ? 

 

DCNFs the DCD ICRC were 28/36s which were sequential choke rather than simultaneous of the DCNF and DCOE etc. I had a 32/34 DMTL on a MG metro and that was great 

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I’m not going to pretend I know what I’m talking about but my 1979 Austin mini had twin Webber’s on, 28/36 off a cortina I believe with a pipercross foam filter, they were sequential, when the 2nd choke opened it was like a turbo! 

 

the engine in it at the time was an MG metro engine bored out to 1340cc, gas flowed cooper head and LCB manifold and straight through exhaust, it went like stink to 60 but that was about it, the bottom end went on it after a couple of months of thrashing it everywhere! 

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15 hours ago, russ p said:

 

 

Aye absolutely spot on the 1600s used to boil their fuel the later S series ones which are extremely rare had carb cooling fans.

Strange thing is my metro gets the turbo glowing red under the carb but very rarely has vapour lock

 

My MG Montego Turbo also had a carb cooling fan that ran for about 15 mins after switching off to prevent fuel evaporation due to heat radiated from the turbo.

 

Also remember it had a little clamp round the dashpot on the SU to stop it blowing out due to the boost pressure :D

 

 

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All the MMM turbos have the clamp but the metro doesn't have the fan like the other two.

My maestro turbo sometimes used to blow the intercooler hose off 

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Sadly that's going to happen more and more as values increase. Any half-decent Mini is worth over 5 grand now, and Minis are even easier to steal than the Fords that have been the scumbag's vehicle of choice for years.

 

 

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Many years ago I had an HB Viva. . . I'd Picked up my father from the local (legion) club to take him home . . . . 

 

The bluddy thing wouldn't start. . . . on the third attempt, I realised we were in the wrong car.

 

My key had opened the door and fitted the ignition...

 

 

My car was next to it.. . . . . . . . OOOPS!.

 

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4 hours ago, Two_sugars said:

Many years ago I had an HB Viva. . . I'd Picked up my father from the local (legion) club to take him home . . . . 

 

The bluddy thing wouldn't start. . . . on the third attempt, I realised we were in the wrong car.

 

My key had opened the door and fitted the ignition...

 

 

My car was next to it.. . . . . . . . OOOPS!.

 

John

 

My cousin had a mk 2 Astra, I had a mk 1, he had locked his keys in his, my key opened it. 

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80s Austin rover cars were easy to change the tumblers in the locks, I changed my then girlfriends 1600 maestro to use the same keys as my turbo so we didn't need two sets of keys....... luckily we stayed friends after we broke up !

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The fuel cap key for my Holden Torana would open and start the  Leyland Marina that one of my tech college classmates had.

He'd regularly leave class late and get to the car park to find us driving his car round and round in circles while waving at him.

 

(Edited because I'd initially  got my class mates car wrong in my memory, which is strange - how could I ever forget that Marina piece of crap!)

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Went to a car show at Gaydon Motor Heritage Centre a few years back with a Ford club. A bunch of us were looking round the museum when we came across the Jaguar XJ220. Knowing it was a "parts bin special" we were busy pointing out all the bits we could identify from other cars when we noticed it had Ford locks. So we all tried our keys in the door and guess who's key opened it with the full cacophony of central-locking? :D

 

Quickly locked it again and walked away sharpish!

 

 

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The XJ220 is still one of my favourite cars ever since I saw the jaguar press car (J999JAG) driving down the road outside Mold in north wales back in about 1993

 

i got Top Gear magazine the following month (possibly even the first issue ever) which had a free poster of the car the photo of which was taken outside sychdyn hall which was about a mile from where I saw it 

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The XJ220 was a homologation exercise wasn't it? Built a handful so the XJR-9 wasn't classified a prototype?

Actual questions not mucking about.

 

C6T. 

 

Never mind folks, I've just read one Wiki entry and the story is rather more complex, so much so it'd seem they made one, the rich loved it and Jaguar decided "if you build it, they will open their cheque books", before the early 90s downturn kicked that into the long grass.

I wonder how you reverse Park the bu99er?! 

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21 minutes ago, Classsix T said:

The XJ220 was a homologation exercise wasn't it? Built a handful so the XJR-9 wasn't classified a prototype?

Actual questions not mucking about.

 

C6T. 

 

Never mind folks, I've just read one Wiki entry and the story is rather more complex, so much so it'd seem they made one, the rich loved it and Jaguar decided "if you build it, they will open their cheque books", before the early 90s downturn kicked that into the long grass.

I wonder how you reverse Park the bu99er?! 

I believe you reverse park carefully! Possibly with the aid of a spotter.

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4 minutes ago, johnlambert said:

I believe you reverse park carefully! Possibly with the aid of a spotter.

Exactly, like extracting crocodile tonsils! Memory is vague but the Ferrari F40 around the same time(?) seemed to get much more press coverage and later the McLaren F1 was trumpeted. The big Jag seems to get overlooked. 

 

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On 19/06/2019 at 21:34, russ p said:

80s Austin rover cars were easy to change the tumblers in the locks, I changed my then girlfriends 1600 maestro to use the same keys as my turbo so we didn't need two sets of keys....... luckily we stayed friends after we broke up !

could open and start  most Metros with an ordinary yale door key  known as free taxis local to us they were that easy to get into on a sat night when your stranded far from home 

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XJ220 was essentially a 2wd turbocharged metro 6R4 with extended wheelbase,  apparently some engines have found their way back into 6R4s .......... hiding under a table  but the metro bodywork looks far better! 

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On 19/06/2019 at 21:20, Worsdell forever said:

 

My cousin had a mk 2 Astra, I had a mk 1, he had locked his keys in his, my key opened it. 

 

A lot of 70s/80s Fords were the same, before they switched to the hexagonal keys - I opened a friend's Mk2 Fiesta with my keys after he locked his keys in. Another friend had a Mk1 Escort which could be opened and started with any flat-bladed object.

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15 minutes ago, Nick C said:

 

A lot of 70s/80s Fords were the same, before they switched to the hexagonal keys - I opened a friend's Mk2 Fiesta with my keys after he locked his keys in. Another friend had a Mk1 Escort which could be opened and started with any flat-bladed object.

My wife tells me that there was a special edition of 'That's Life' about car security, where a presenter opened a Cortina using a key belonging to a child's pedal car...

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16 hours ago, Classsix T said:

The XJ220 was a homologation exercise wasn't it? Built a handful so the XJR-9 wasn't classified a prototype?

Actual questions not mucking about.

 

C6T. 

 

12 hours ago, russ p said:

XJ220 was essentially a 2wd turbocharged metro 6R4 with extended wheelbase,  apparently some engines have found their way back into 6R4s .......... hiding under a table  but the metro bodywork looks far better! 

 

Similarities between the XJR-9 and XJ220 is like the Maserati MC12 to the Fiat Grande Punto, as Russ says the spec for the showcar was downgraded dramatically and what was delivered was essentially a rebodied Metro.

 

Meanwhile, I hope to have the restoration of my 220 "wall art" finished and back on the road soon, given enough time and money...

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Just remembered the missing link , the MG EX which was more of a rebodied  6R4 than the xj220.

It sort of evolved into both the rover 800 coupe and the MGf 

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Was that the one Stig pelted around the Top Gear track Russ? If not the one I'm thinking of looked to be based upon Rover 200 or 400 bodyshell. 

800 Coupé . I dunno if I've ever seen one. Honda Legend underpinnings I'm guessing? 

5-door Vitesse and 4-door Stirling (effectively a Vanden Plas) with the Honda V6 lump up front were more familiar. 

 

C6T. 

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I have a 2002 Golf auto with about 11000 on the clock i have had it for 9 years .It sails through MOT's but it cannot last .Wondering whether to buy a more modern one or just cough up about 500 and have some parts that may need fixing  done .its the full equipe version so its pretty up to date anyway ie air bags ,aircon ,onboard pooter  etc.We dont do much milage as our dogs dont travel well .

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