No Decorum Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 If he ever does write his memoirs, they should make entertaining reading. If he is honest, they might even be informative. As for his products, my experiences with the early ones made me avoid his products like the plague. All the same, he incorporated some good ideas which were worth while. In contrast, some visible features were very poor, especially for models which were supposed to be the last word. What let them all down were the mechanisms. I’d love to know why on earth he persisted with a setup which performed so badly. Hornby has been hammered for employing people who knew next to nothing about model railways but here is an example of a person who appeared to know something of model railways but nothing much about running a business. Despite all the disparaging remarks about “bean counters”, they clearly have a role to play. It is all rather sad. A couple of people who could have taken DJ by the scruff of the neck and told him what needed to be done and what should not be done might have led to a different outcome. What doesn’t seem to get much of a mention is that, behind the polite words of appreciation, his departure seems to have left Dapol in the lurch with no succession planning. It took a while but in the long term, Dapol seems to have benefited greatly. Compare the 22 and 68. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Yes, but you might struggle to know whether to sell them as fiction or non-fiction 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Is nowhere on this forum free from the tiresome quipping about DJ Models? You'd be forgiven for thinking this thread was about Cooper Craft appearing at Railwells. Paul A. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, 1whitemoor said: Is nowhere on this forum free from the tiresome quipping about DJ Models? You'd be forgiven for thinking this thread was about Cooper Craft appearing at Railwells. Paul A. People clearly find parallels between these two suppliers' performances or otherwise. Now you know Coopercraft is at Railwells you don't need to refer to the thread again if it offends you. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 hours ago, chris p bacon said: I can only fund the Full stops. period. That would certainly make a point. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Nile said: Does Mr D actually have anything to sell? Just for a giggle I tried ordering some of the etched "spares" on his website (after all he states etchings are available) Once the order confirmation is taken, it says I will be contacted in regards to overseas mailing costs. That was two weeks ago....nothing, nada, nil, zilch since. Even filled in a contact form to enquire when I would get my costs? Dunns empty space emporium continues ad infinitum 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold melmoth Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, lofty1966 said: Dunns empty space emporium continues ad infinitum Sheer poetry. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) The irritating thing is that I would like to build Roxey Moulding's LBSCR Balloon PP driving third, but in order to make it into a PP set I need the (ex-Blacksmith) Balloon composite, which is owned by...CooperCraft. If I was in the UK, I would certainly pay a visit! Edited July 24, 2019 by truffy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted July 24, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Siberian Snooper said: Would it read any better than his CV. Nah - they'll both be a work of fiction.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meil Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 How on earth can such a reputable show as this even consider, let alone actually, invite some one like Cooper Craft to the show? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 hours ago, 1whitemoor said: Is nowhere on this forum free from the tiresome quipping about DJ Models? You'd be forgiven for thinking this thread was about Cooper Craft appearing at Railwells. Paul A. No. You know where the IGNORE THIS TOPIC button is, I presume? Regards, John Isherwood. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, meil said: How on earth can such a reputable show as this even consider, let alone actually, invite some one like Cooper Craft to the show? I can only assume that no one has told them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, meil said: How on earth can such a reputable show as this even consider, let alone actually, invite some one like Cooper Craft to the show? 16 minutes ago, Joseph_Pestell said: I can only assume that no one has told them. He's paying them for a stand ? 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 hours ago, No Decorum said: If he is honest, they might even be informative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: Am I the only person now playing this over and over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, woodenhead said: He's paying them for a stand ? In advance I hope. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said: In advance I hope. He's probably loaded - wish I could run a business that takes money but no costs for actual product. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, meil said: How on earth can such a reputable show as this even consider, let alone actually, invite some one like Cooper Craft to the show? A very pertinent comment on more than one level....... Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, AVS1998 said: I have the same issue. I've been interested in a lot of CooperCraft's kits over the years but their reputation has always put me off handing any money over. Good for you! Little chance of a completed order arriving, we are told. But his presence at another show does give those who wish to buy a chance to do so, and those who feel they have been ripped-off to have a suitable conversation..... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted July 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 hours ago, 1whitemoor said: Is nowhere on this forum free from the tiresome quipping about DJ Models? You'd be forgiven for thinking this thread was about Cooper Craft appearing at Railwells. You can't fight years of evolution, people love a good lynchin', yessirreee. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2019 12 hours ago, AVS1998 said: I have the same issue. I've been interested in a lot of CooperCraft's kits over the years but their reputation has always put me off handing any money over. He's not had much in the way of plastic models for sale, the last couple of years, it's been just the stuff left that nobody wants. Although there have been rumors that some form of platic moulding is now taking place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2019 19 hours ago, 1whitemoor said: .........................You'd be forgiven for thinking this thread was about Cooper Craft appearing at Railwells. He will most likely have for sale his re-introduced range of 'Blacksmith' GWR coach etched sides. I will be purchasing some of these. Last year he had a large number of CC plastic sides and ends suitable for scratchbuilding , IIRC there were quite a few GWR four (?) plank sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 15 hours ago, meil said: How on earth can such a reputable show as this even consider, let alone actually, invite some one like Cooper Craft to the show? I'm conflicted on this one - while having a stand does give him an undeserved impression of respectability, it has meant I've been able to pick up some otherwise hard to find bits - in my case enough parts to build a rake of Slater's 6-wheel MR carriages from his dwindling stock (that was 2-3 years ago - the last time he appeared at ExpoEM or Scaleforum). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted July 25, 2019 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Re6/6 said: He will most likely have for sale his re-introduced range of 'Blacksmith' GWR coach etched sides. I will be purchasing some of these. Why not walk off with them without paying? See how he likes it..... 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted July 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) Then ignore all his reasonable requests for payment. I would not condone shoplifting, but if he owed me £30 for years I would have no problem selecting £30 worth of stuff from his stand, then telling him to use the money he owes me to pay for it as I walk off. Suggest bringing some proof with you that he owes money in case he calls security. Edited July 25, 2019 by Colin_McLeod 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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