Michael Edge's workbench

[pete_mcfarlane]

9 hours ago, Michael Edge said:

I can't remember where this was now but the bus made a detour somewhere between Flagstaff and Las Vegas for us to look at this 4-8-4 plinthed in a park.

Close up of the motion with its divided drive to the crankpins, common in large US steam locos but only done once in the UK - on Bulleid's 500hp 0-6-0DM 11001.

 

The 4-8-4 is at a place called Kingman in Arizona. It must be a standard stop for tour buses going to the Grand Canyon. This was it in 2019.

[wagonbasher]

3 hours ago, pete_mcfarlane said:

 

The 4-8-4 is at a place called Kingman in Arizona. It must be a standard stop for tour buses going to the Grand Canyon. This was it in 2019.

Someone has written Santa Fanon the side of a shipping container!

 

Andy

[doilum]

On 12/08/2022 at 19:03, pete_mcfarlane said:

 

The 4-8-4 is at a place called Kingman in Arizona. It must be a standard stop for tour buses going to the Grand Canyon. This was it in 2019.

It's on Route 66. ( According to the lyrics)

[Michael Edge]

Yes, we did travel by bus along part of the old Route 66 - a lot of it doesn’t really exist now.

[AlfaZagato]

No, 66 is no longer a US Highway.   I think the equivalent in the UK would be an A road.   Many places still call it 66.  Anything 'official' is a state highway at most, equivalent to a B road.

[Michael Edge]

With holidays out of the way for a while I've finished this today.

MS&LR Sacré 4-4-0, will be finished in GCR livery as No.442.

Not the easiest loco to build but it's come out very well, 00 gauge, Gibson wheels (but not the plastic cranks) and a High Level Roadrunner+. I'll post some photos of the mechanical bits when I take it apart again to wash and grit blast it before it goes for painting.

[t-b-g]

4 minutes ago, Michael Edge said:

With holidays out of the way for a while I've finished this today.

MS&LR Sacré 4-4-0, will be finished in GCR livery as No.442.

Not the easiest loco to build but it's come out very well, 00 gauge, Gibson wheels (but not the plastic cranks) and a High Level Roadrunner+. I'll post some photos of the mechanical bits when I take it apart again to wash and grit blast it before it goes for painting.

 

Gorgeous! What a pretty loco that is.

 

If etches become available in 4 and/or7mm, I will very happily have one of each Mike.

[D-A-T]

1 hour ago, t-b-g said:

 

Gorgeous! What a pretty loco that is.

 

If etches become available in 4 and/or7mm, I will very happily have one of each Mike.

Me too. 
Edit: 4mm please

Edited September 8, 2022 by D-A-T

[doilum]

It might need some large radius curves...

[richard i]

1 hour ago, t-b-g said:

 

Gorgeous! What a pretty loco that is.

 

If etches become available in 4 and/or7mm, I will very happily have one of each Mike.

Ditto for 4mm.

richard 

[Michael Edge]

41 minutes ago, doilum said:

It might need some large radius curves...

Not in 00 it doesn’t, goes very happily round the vicious 28” reverse curve on my test track.

[Camperdown]

On 08/09/2022 at 18:22, Michael Edge said:

With holidays out of the way for a while I've finished this today.

MS&LR Sacré 4-4-0, will be finished in GCR livery as No.442.

Not the easiest loco to build but it's come out very well, 00 gauge, Gibson wheels (but not the plastic cranks) and a High Level Roadrunner+. I'll post some photos of the mechanical bits when I take it apart again to wash and grit blast it before it goes for painting.

Very nice.  Peter Denny described scratchbuilding one in Model Railways, I think.

 

What do you do for boiler bands?  I see them marked out, but nothing there.  Are the dome, smokebox door and tender springs 3D printed or resin castings?  And how does the material cope with grit blasting?

[iak]

Gorgeous beastie...

[Michael Edge]

5 hours ago, Camperdown said:

Very nice.  Peter Denny described scratchbuilding one in Model Railways, I think.

 

What do you do for boiler bands?  I see them marked out, but nothing there.  Are the dome, smokebox door and tender springs 3D printed or resin castings?  And how does the material cope with grit blasting?

No cladding bands since this will be fully lined and the painter will put them on, positions are scribed on to the boiler.

Those parts are resin mouldings, more or less unaffected by grit blasting.

[Michael Edge]

We were back in France earlier this month and I made some videos on the layout, somewhat hampered by having forgotten to pack my tripod (again!)

First of all a couple of long shots across the southern approach to Citadel.

 

This is the train which will be used in the next sequence, I had to run it out round the M&C loops to turn it round to approach Garsdale from the south.

[Michael Edge]

Next is the sequence of operations at Garsdale for the arrival of "Bonnyface", the remaining service on the Wensleydale branch after through trains ended in 1954. This ran between Hellifield and Hawes, the lack of facing connections at the junction led to an interesting move, also using the Garsdale turntable since there wasn't one at Hawes.

 

 

[Michael Edge]

The last one is at Upperby, our version of this is considerably compressed, the exact scale part of the layout starts under St Nicholas bridge, running up to Caldew bridge north of the station. With the constraints of connecting all the tracks "off stage" we don't have all the goods connections which should be there so this northbound train is heading unusually through the station rather than the goods lines.

This area still has to be ballasted but otherwise fairly complete. The Brush 4 has no trouble with this long train of tank wagons but the leading barrier wagon seems to have an argument with the points here, I'll have to check its wheelsets when I get back there next year. Citadel's home signal is showing either yellow or double yellow with a platform indicator as well but the focus with my fairly simple camera isn't good enough to show it.

[Barry O]

One day I will get to visit it..

 

Baz

[richard i]

I was watching some video of Herculaneum dock. Was I right in thinking the loco I saw coming off the loco depot was a model of the Fowler proposed pacific? It seemed painted in a fictitious br black livery. I might have got this horribly wrong. The price of watching on a small screen. 
richard 

[Michael Edge]

No, I think what you saw was the proposed (Horwich) 0-6-6-0 Mallet. The drawing of this shows an L&Y style tender but having built the loco I had a spare LMS original Fowler style 4000 gallon tender so it runs with this.The loco can also be seen on our club layout Chapel-en-le-Frith, at least on there it doesn’t have to be turned. At Brunswick it’s a difficult job turning it on the 60ft table, if it had been built E.S.Cox thought it would have had a leading pony truck added.

 The livery is plain BR black, it’s a freight loco.

[Michael Edge]

Photo of the 0-6-6-0

I think this tender suits it better than the one it was drawn with - and it's the same width as the cab which didn't always happen at this time.

[Asterix2012]

How far down the design route did this thing get Mike?

[Michael Edge]

It didn't get any further, it was an alternative proposal from Horwich for the job the Garratts did. There are dozens of these "might have beens" but not much saw the light of day apart possibly from some frame material for the Fowler 4-6-2.

[richard i]

8 hours ago, Michael Edge said:

There are dozens of these "might have beens" but not much saw the light of day apart possibly from some frame material for the Fowler 4-6-2.

About as far as Gresley’s 2-8-2 tank got. 
though many have got further in model form. There is definitely an appetite for them. I wonder whether there is enough for it to be commercially viable. Perhaps for some of the more famous ones eg the standard 2-8-2.

thanks for showing he picture

richard 

[Michael Edge]

The 0-6-6-0 was all scratchbuilt but if I ever do another might have been there will be a lot of etching in it. Horwich drawing office also produced a Garratt design with the same wheelbase and cylinders.

It couldn't have been any worse than the Garratts which were actually built.