Pete the Elaner Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, boxbrownie said: I wonder if they could confirm that the next Hornby video will be produced by people who actually like model railways, not yoofs who happen to own a smartphone! It is effectively a demo, not a feature film. Are musicians demos always produced as finely as the final recordings? If I worked with model railways all day every day, I am sure it would take away some of the enjoyment I get from the hobby now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Pete the Elaner said: It is effectively a demo, not a feature film. Are musicians demos always produced as finely as the final recordings? Your analogy is flawed. The Hornby video is a publicly-available marketing piece. It should be created and edited as such. Musicians' demos are not intended for the public domain, but to be used by those in the business. If they ever get into the public domain, it's usually because the musicians are supermegafamous and the completists will buy anything. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2020 I have a feeling that if the presentation of Rocket had been tasked to The Engine Shed a somewhat more professional presentation would have been produced. Keith 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, truffy said: Your analogy is flawed. The Hornby video is a publicly-available marketing piece. It should be created and edited as such. Musicians' demos are not intended for the public domain, but to be used by those in the business. If they ever get into the public domain, it's usually because the musicians are supermegafamous and the completists will buy anything. They are both to whet people's appetites, nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pete the Elaner said: They are both to whet people's appetites, nothing more. However, a musicians demo is to work out ideas to put before a very limited audience (A&R/Producers) to sell a concept for further production and refinement. Thats more akin to seeing clearly identified engineering prototypes/decoration samples of a model, not a video of something thats going to be delivered to the public in a few weeks time. What the Signal Box team did was to put a badly made video (both in video quality and sound) of a pre-production model that wasn't ready for public exposure, in front of the people who would be buying the final product. And given that both the Commemorative and standard packs seem to be sold out at Hornby and in the model shops then whetting isn't really required. Edited February 12, 2020 by Hroth Spelling. I must proofread! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 45 minutes ago, Hroth said: However, a musicians demo is to work out ideas to put before a very limited audience (A&R/Producers) to sell a concept for further production and refinement. Thats more akin to seeing clearly identified engineering prototypes/decoration samples of a model, not a video of something thats going to be delivered to the public in a few weeks time. What the Signal Box team did was to put a badly made video (both in video quality and sound) of a pre-production model that wasn't ready for public exposure, in front of the people who would be buying the final product. And given that both the Commemorative and standard packs seem to be sold out at Hornby and in the model shops then whetting isn't really required. So I guess you'll be cancelling your order then? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: It is effectively a demo, not a feature film. Are musicians demos always produced as finely as the final recordings? If I worked with model railways all day every day, I am sure it would take away some of the enjoyment I get from the hobby now. It’s showcasing a new product from a multi national company, if I was the MD I’d be ashamed to put that out. Not arguing, it’s my opinion. 4 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Never mind all that. These are coming in as I've just paid for mine. Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mozzer models Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) New vid on youtube & Hornby are taking the Pi?? out of themselves Edited February 12, 2020 by mozzer models 6 1 19 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2020 Nice one Hornby 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, mozzer models said: New vid on youtube & Hornby are taking the Pi?? out of themselves Fell out of the chair laughing watching this vid. Thumbs up to Hornby for spotting the error and I'm sure the Men in Malachite will kindly offer their services to rehabilitate Mike (and they won't leave any bruises either ). 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2020 I reckon he's had a rocket up his wotsit. 2 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I don’t usually bother with Hornby’s Signal Box but that was superb. A brilliant recovery and the model looked good and performed well too. 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 A brilliant performance! The Rocket seemed to work a lot better this time too! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, No Decorum said: I don’t usually bother with Hornby’s Signal Box but that was superb. A brilliant recovery and the model looked good and performed well too. But we did not see it actually start 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2020 Better but still issues with depth of field and the laws of physics re. coupling chains under tension. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, gwrrob said: I reckon he's had a rocket up his wotsit. Due to health and safety - rockets and red-hot pokers are not allowed as forms of re-education anymore... 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2020 Well done for Hornby redeeming themselves with this special episode. It's miles better in appearance and slow speed running quality compared with my former 1984 Hornby loco and Triang carriage! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Better but still issues with depth of field and the laws of physics re. coupling chains under tension. True but a nice recovery, well done Hornby......a little extra time makes a huge difference 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2020 Ha Ha good for Hornby , acknowledging their error . Looks like a lovely model. Can’t wait to get mine 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Hroth said: And given that both the Commemorative and standard packs seem to be sold out at Hornby and in the model shops then whetting isn't really required. Just found the standard pack available to order at the first non obvious on-line retailer I looked at, and at others who are quoting £££ over the list price already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said: others who are quoting £££ over the list price already Where there's lack, there's brass! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said: Just found the standard pack available to order at the first non obvious on-line retailer I looked at, and at others who are quoting £££ over the list price already But how up-to-date is their website? Some are very good, with stock levels indicated, others just list things as being orderable, even if they have no stock available. If you're after one, I hope you succeed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Coppercap said: But how up-to-date is their website? Some are very good, with stock levels indicated, others just list things as being orderable, even if they have no stock available. If you're after one, I hope you succeed. It is available to order at Gaugemaster for example. It is after all a standard release not limited in number and no doubt will be available at most if not all Hornby sellers not just the big box shifters who everyone has ordered from, although that includes the likes of Jamlam who are asking £219.99 for it. Gaugemaster are quoting £165 which includes free next day delivery which makes it cheaper than all those people have ordered from Hattons once postage is factored in. Edited February 12, 2020 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 . The "apology" video might be fun, but the horizontal joint line through the water barrel is still an eyesore. . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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