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[TomScrut]

6 minutes ago, MoonM said:

few livery options available

 

Whilst being completely out of region for me and therefore of no modelling interest, I think the 442s are a funny one livery wise.

 

I think they looked absolutely fantastic in NSE colours, but I don't think any of the liveries since have really done them justice.

 

Not a reason to not make them, just my opinion on their liveries really.

[Accurascale Fran]

Hi everyone,

 

The 5-WES is indeed an interesting one. To be honest, we did look at them seriously, but were then told by someone else that they were working on one, so we pulled back in the interest of fairness (second time we have for this producer too) 
 

Mind you, it was a while ago now and we’ve not heard much more. We presume it’s still going ahead. It wouldn’t make sense to duplicate on something like this as I’m sure you can appreciate. We’ve been asked a lot for it, so I hope this helps to outline why we haven’t taken it further.

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

[slg]

Just been looking through my photos and picked out some wagons that might make good future releases.

 

 

Both types bogie and 4 wheeled

 

 

 

 

First 2 types behind loco

 

 

 

 

 

 

HEA and the Flask wagon

 

 

The Russell hoppers

 

 

The real "Silver Bullets" not the Dapol one

 

Take your pick!!!!!!!!

 

 

Future train pack

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only if Rev0lution don't announce a 00 version.

 

 

 

[newbryford]

5 hours ago, slg said:

the Flask wagon

 

 

 

 

 

One of the two Winfrith wagons..... 

Conversion (i.e. modelling) from a Bachmann (or Cambrian) BBA.

 

 

[MoonM]

10 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said:

Hi everyone,

 

The 5-WES is indeed an interesting one. To be honest, we did look at them seriously, but were then told by someone else that they were working on one, so we pulled back in the interest of fairness (second time we have for this producer too) 
 

Mind you, it was a while ago now and we’ve not heard much more. We presume it’s still going ahead. It wouldn’t make sense to duplicate on something like this as I’m sure you can appreciate. We’ve been asked a lot for it, so I hope this helps to outline why we haven’t taken it further.

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

Shame, but nice to hear the honesty. Wonder who it was as would have expected one of the biggies. Hornby would be the most natural one having already mk3 tooling but wouldn't imagine accurascale being so accommodative to them. Really think still the mk3 could be good for accurascale. So much to better Hornby and Oxford (same thing now I guess) at. There are the HSTs, stand alone coaches, this emu of course and then the Irish angle. Still hoping... 

[wombatofludham]

10 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said:

Hi everyone,

 

The 5-WES is indeed an interesting one. To be honest, we did look at them seriously, but were then told by someone else that they were working on one, so we pulled back in the interest of fairness (second time we have for this producer too) 
 

Mind you, it was a while ago now and we’ve not heard much more. We presume it’s still going ahead. It wouldn’t make sense to duplicate on something like this as I’m sure you can appreciate. We’ve been asked a lot for it, so I hope this helps to outline why we haven’t taken it further.

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

Interesting, especially as the Mk3 intermediates with power doors would be something with potential for the Irish market.

[black and decker boy]

20 hours ago, slg said:

Just been looking through my photos and picked out some wagons that might make good future releases.

 

 

Both types bogie and 4 wheeled

 

 

 

 

First 2 types behind loco

 

 

 

 

 

 

HEA and the Flask wagon

 

 

The Russell hoppers

 

 

The real "Silver Bullets" not the Dapol one

 

Take your pick!!!!!!!!

 

 

Future train pack

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only if Rev0lution don't announce a 00 version.

 

 

 

Yes to most of those.

 

Id also love to see the Powell Duffryn PXA bogie steel carriers. They travelled widely including Scotland and weren’t just South Wales based

Edited January 8, 2023 by black and decker boy

[Covkid]

22 hours ago, slg said:

Just been looking through my photos and picked out some wagons that might make good future releases.

 

 

 

 

 

Some great ideas among these

 

I recall the FPA container wagons operating 6E07 Coedbach - Immingham which was a Transrail flow with Trainsrail class 56s. 

Bescot drivers worked Newport - Landor St via Foxhall Jn, and Landor St - Immongham via Nottingham and Lincoln.  The ety boxes returned on 6V31 Immingham - Coedbach which BS drivers worked Immingham - Landor St and Landor St - Newport.   

 

The most important of those photos feature the dual braked coil carriers which worked a lot of coils from South Wales to the Black Country.  These wagons also shipped imported coil from Hamworthy docks to Swindon. Originally usual weathered grime, in the late 1980s they were repainted into red and black Railfreight livery and looked smart.  Bonus feature of these is their short length meaning more wagons in trains making them look longer.    

 

Sturgeon above is a good choice but being a long vehicle (designed to carry 60 foot rails) there may be bogie swing issues

[paulbb]

On 02/01/2023 at 16:10, Downer said:

Having deliberately missed out on the Locomotion D6700 - having it delivered to France made it way too expensive - I’m hoping you’ll do another of the earliest 37s in plain green at some point.

I would have at least one myself- no yellow warning panel. Any chance Accurascale?

[Dorset33]

On 07/01/2023 at 13:15, Accurascale Fran said:

Hi everyone,

 

The 5-WES is indeed an interesting one. To be honest, we did look at them seriously, but were then told by someone else that they were working on one, so we pulled back in the interest of fairness (second time we have for this producer too) 
 

Mind you, it was a while ago now and we’ve not heard much more. We presume it’s still going ahead. It wouldn’t make sense to duplicate on something like this as I’m sure you can appreciate. We’ve been asked a lot for it, so I hope this helps to outline why we haven’t taken it further.

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

The trouble is no other manufacturer is as dedicated to delivering such high quality models within a reasonable timeframe. 

[Roy Langridge]

26 minutes ago, Dorset33 said:

The trouble is no other manufacturer is as dedicated to delivering such high quality models within a reasonable timeframe. 

I think to say no other is probably being a little unfair to the likes of Cavalex. 
 

Roy

[TomScrut]

36 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said:

I think to say no other is probably being a little unfair to the likes of Cavalex. 
 

Roy

 

To be honest, given the amount of time the 37s, 92s, 55s and mk5s have been I'd say that timescales from Accurascale are in line with pretty much everyone else.

[newbryford]

1 hour ago, Dorset33 said:

The trouble is no other manufacturer is as dedicated to delivering such high quality models within a reasonable timeframe. 

 

39 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said:

I think to say no other is probably being a little unfair to the likes of Cavalex. 
 

Roy

 

And Revolution Trains.

[Dorset33]

1 hour ago, newbryford said:

 

 

And Revolution Trains.

 

Quality, but reasonable time frames still stand imho

 

I always thought you could only have two of the following, speed, price & quality. Accurascale deliver on two and arguably the third as well.

[St. Simon]

2 hours ago, Dorset33 said:

The trouble is no other manufacturer is as dedicated to delivering such high quality models within a reasonable timeframe. 

Apart from the ones that are of course…..

 

I would say that all manufacturers are dedicated to delivering high quality as quickly as they can, some end up doing so, some don’t.

 

Simon

Edited January 8, 2023 by St. Simon

[TomScrut]

18 minutes ago, Dorset33 said:

 

Quality, but reasonable time frames still stand imho

 

I always thought you could only have two of the following, speed, price & quality. Accurascale deliver on two and arguably the third as well.

 

I really don't see where you're coming from in terms of this speed you say they have. The stuff they have announced from scratch has been years coming (not a dig at AS BTW). That's no different to anyone else.

 

It could be argued that Hornby are faster than all of them. I don't think anyone else has turned new tooling steam around as fast as the 9F and W1 recently.

 

So unless you're just tarring the entire industry with the timings of Bachmanns old strategy, I just have no idea where you are coming from in what you're saying.

[newbryford]

1 hour ago, Dorset33 said:

 

Quality, but reasonable time frames still stand imho

 

I always thought you could only have two of the following, speed, price & quality. Accurascale deliver on two and arguably the third as well.

 

A/S aren't as fast as you probably think they are. 

 

Announcement/delivery dates for the 37, 55 and 92 are:

The italics are quotes frpm the original or just after - the A/S announcements.

Yes - I appreciate that there has been a global event that has screwed things up a bit. 

 

37 - Nov 2019 - 3 years and not here yet - but almost. Delivery is slated for Q4 2020. 

55 - Nov 2018 - delivered mid 2022. Accurascale’s factory is due to begin tooling in the coming weeks ahead of a Q4 2019 release,

92 - Feb 2019 - delivered late 2022. And in the 92 thread Delivery is slated for early 2020.

 

Mk5s - Feb 2019 -  here and about to be shipped.

 

Edited January 8, 2023 by newbryford

[adb968008]

21 minutes ago, newbryford said:

 

A/S aren't as fast as you probably think they are.

 

Announcement/delivery dates for the 37, 55 and 92 are:

37 - Nov 2019 - 3 years and not here yet - but almost.

55 - Nov 2018 - delivered mid 2022.

92 - Feb 2019 - delivered late 2022.

 

Mk5s - Feb 2019 -  here and about to be shipped.

 

 

 

am I the last wolly mammoth left on earth still waiting for the SLW class 24/1 then ?

The Bachmann 25/2 is enjoying is 5th anniversary announcement today as it happens.
 

of course my pre-order for the Steam Railmotor goes back to 2014.

 

i could talk about Lima’s V2… but I think thats for the birds since 1982.

 

Edited January 8, 2023 by adb968008

[Islesy]

1 hour ago, TomScrut said:

new tooling steam around as fast as the 9F and W1 recently.

The W1 was begun in 2016, and the 9F was begun in February 2020 @TomScrut, just to put the record straight there. And, to remind you, the 2MT and 88DS are still outstanding, despite EPs being available when I was still there 😉

[McC]

36 minutes ago, newbryford said:

 

A/S aren't as fast as you probably think they are. 

 

Announcement/delivery dates for the 37, 55 and 92 are:

The italics are quotes frpm the original or just after - the A/S announcements.

Yes - I appreciate that there has been a global event that has screwed things up a bit. 

 

37 - Nov 2019 - 3 years and not here yet - but almost. Delivery is slated for Q4 2020. 

55 - Nov 2018 - delivered mid 2022. Accurascale’s factory is due to begin tooling in the coming weeks ahead of a Q4 2019 release,

92 - Feb 2019 - delivered late 2022. And in the 92 thread Delivery is slated for early 2020.

 

Mk5s - Feb 2019 -  here and about to be shipped.

 

And to be fair we had a pandemic in the middle of all that. More ‘normal’ scheduling should apply going forward (about a year or less from announce to delivery) 

[younGGuns7]

Think we seem to have already forgotten some of the worlds issues of the past 3 years all manufacturers have suffered at the fate of COVID and shortages of both production slots and basic raw materials, to be fair we have seen some really long leadtimes from established manufacturers I.e. Class 59 etc so it may be worth judging performance in the coming years and not the past 3 strange ones

[Calidore]

On 07/01/2023 at 13:15, Accurascale Fran said:

Hi everyone,

 

The 5-WES is indeed an interesting one. To be honest, we did look at them seriously, but were then told by someone else that they were working on one, so we pulled back in the interest of fairness (second time we have for this producer too) 
 

Mind you, it was a while ago now and we’ve not heard much more. We presume it’s still going ahead. It wouldn’t make sense to duplicate on something like this as I’m sure you can appreciate. We’ve been asked a lot for it, so I hope this helps to outline why we haven’t taken it further.

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

 

After a visual prompt about the 442 produced this most interesting response, Fran, I feel obliged to throw another one in just to see what happens... All in the name of research, you understand...

 

 

(Hugh Llewelyn on Flickr, Creative Commons sharealike)

 

 

AP Photography on Flickr, Creative Commons Non-commercial)

 

[rob D2]

Hell, that’s twice as fast as bluebox , and light speed travel compared with the Dapol 59 

[Dorset33]

1 hour ago, TomScrut said:

 

I really don't see where you're coming from in terms of this speed you say they have. The stuff they have announced from scratch has been years coming (not a dig at AS BTW). That's no different to anyone else.

 

It could be argued that Hornby are faster than all of them. I don't think anyone else has turned new tooling steam around as fast as the 9F and W1 recently.

 

So unless you're just tarring the entire industry with the timings of Bachmanns old strategy, I just have no idea where you are coming from in what you're saying.

My comment was not based on items in general but on the potential production of a 442 5-WES, another supplier A/S  competitor has been closed door rumouring a production for a couple years now, so if it was announced it would still take a further 2+ years to appear. I'm probably just  being far too impatient and indeed hopeful!! although it was the second most requested EMU in the latest poll. that said a 5 car unit would be a hefty model to produce with serious costs involved.

[rob D2]

For my two modelling eras,

The pallet van, and the Thames turbo would be the things that I am really missing to current standards.