RMweb Premium Steven B Posted January 19 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19 It's nice that Bachmann has released pairs of units with different destinations - "Liverpool Lime Street" is much more suited to my train-set than "Milford Haven". That said, having received my model it's a struggle to read it the text is so small! The design is interesting. Neither half of the unit will move without being attached to the other. I believe the decoder and speaker are fitted in one half with the motor in the other. There's a four pin connector that makes up the coupling between the two halves - two wires for motor, two for control of the head/tail lamps. I'm still undecided about single decoders & large couplings vs multiple decoders and smaller couplings. The former certainly saves quite a few quid but is bulkier than a rapido coupling and at the loss of being able to adjust the coupling gap between vehicles. I think on a two car unit it's OK to have the fancy coupling, but on something longer (>3 cars) I think I'd prefer two decoders. With the fragility of multi-pole electrical couplings I can see myself investing in a new stock box to allow class 158 and 148 units to be packed away without splitting the unit. I suspect the four car Revolution class 123 would be too long for that to be practical! Steven B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted January 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19 58 minutes ago, Steven B said: the four car Revolution class 123 Steven B Steven, is that a typo or are you party to information not yet in the public domain? Or is it wishful thinking...? Best Scott. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted January 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19 26 minutes ago, scottystitch said: Steven, is that a typo or are you party to information not yet in the public domain? Or is it wishful thinking...? Best Scott. But to dream ...... 123 would tick many boxes after the 120 project. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted January 19 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19 Typo = should have read class 321. Right numbers, wrong order! Wishful thinking would get me a class 104, 110 and 124! Steven B. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBM37404 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 How do people feel over the 158s top speed? I feel it should be a little quicker topping out. Tried tweaking CVs to with someone who knows what there doing and still feels like its a steady runner but not quick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted January 21 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21 9 hours ago, JBM37404 said: How do people feel over the 158s top speed? I feel it should be a little quicker topping out. Tried tweaking CVs to with someone who knows what there doing and still feels like its a steady runner but not quick. Seems to be a common observation with Farish new tools lately that they don't seem to go very fast. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I have been running mine in. I like it. I just turned the interior lights off because really in day time the lights weren't all that noticeable, and the cab lights were annoying me. I'll sort that another time. mine is a bit slow at top speed as well. it actually ran quicker with a different decoder in it I noticed. with a zimo in it is smoother but slower at top speed. if I can get round to it I will speed match it with a 156 and try running it coupled up. I quite like the coupling arrangement but I can imagine some people will bend and break the pins or the holding latch. it is close coupled between the vehicles though so looks good. cheers tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted January 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23 13 hours ago, bluedepot said: mine is a bit slow at top speed as well. it actually ran quicker with a different decoder in it I noticed. with a zimo in it is smoother but slower at top speed. Thats similar to my Hornby Class 71 in OO, noticably faster running with a Lokpilot 5 in it compared with a new Zimo MN decoder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk Rob Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Got my Scotrail one today and it really is a beautiful model. Sadly there is a real grinding sound at low speed, different to the one Kris reported having rewatched his video. Gave it the running in period just in case but no improvement So hey ho, just bad luck on my part, these things happen and back off to a very helpful and understanding retailer for a replacement. Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Road Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 lovely model. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted January 25 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25 Looks like the Northern and Central versions are about to hit the shelves. Tom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wherry Lines Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Whilst I am very happy to see they've finally arrived, I wish they'd spaced the releases out a bit more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jbqfc Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 Finally got mine today after it took royal mail 8 days to get it the 4 miles from Gatwick mail centre to me in Crawley a very nice model mine is very quiet and runs well but another model with a low top speed now this is not a problem for me as I run a terminus station but for others could be a problem John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sweet pea Posted January 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30 (edited) On 25/01/2024 at 14:00, Gloucester Road said: lovely model. These are lovely DMUs, I have ordered my GWR one this morning. Edited January 30 by Kevin Johnson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk Rob Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Got my replacement in the week and running it for the first time today- much much better and quiet before a full running in. I see the point about top speed but not an issue for me for same reasons as JBQFC above Slight shame it doesn't apparantly couple to Dapol units as I had a plan to run with the Gaugemaster Scotrail 153 when it arrives, provided the "banana" body has been addressed. Still, that's hardly a criticism of Farish. For those of you with sound, is it just me that can't stop playing with the door opening/closing? Hoping there's a 170 upgrade or new first gen DMU to this standard in the works at Bachmann. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 glad replacement is working oh ok I was actually going to try running it with a Dapol 156 just for entertainment but if the couplings don't work together I won't bother speed matching them would have been a nuisance as well I might make a review video for youtube if I can get organised and have some time cheers tim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wherry Lines Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, bluedepot said: ...running it with a Dapol 156 just for entertainment but if the couplings don't work... The Dapol and Farish BSI couplings don't work. I've tried already. Tiny dimensional difference!@ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 hours ago, Suffolk Rob said: Hoping there's a 170 upgrade or new first gen DMU to this standard in the works at Bachmann. Rob Don't forget Revolution are doing a Class120 es grüßt pc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk Rob Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 38 minutes ago, Padishar Creel said: Don't forget Revolution are doing a Class120 es grüßt pc Yep, hoping there's a Scottish blue one to order Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted February 7 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7 (edited) It’s a shame Farish for the Regional Railways used TOPs numbers from the Phase 2 fleet, which didn’t really operate on the Regional Railways North East routes. These where mainly Phase 1 units. As for the speed I imagine these are gear to represent scale speed which to me personally is good. It would be ideally if a West Yorkshire PTE Metro Train liveried example is produced as Bachmann did in 4mm. Edited February 7 by richierich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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woodenhead Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 All these deletes, beginning to think there is a Cyberman about 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted February 9 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9 Finally got my Northern 158 today. Fully lives up to expectations and no motor noise on this one. I think they've absolutely nailed it. Will do a full review for NGN at some point in the next week if I can squeeze it in around moving house! Tom. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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