RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 12, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Paul.Uni said: You'll be waiting a long time as Bachmann have the exclusive rights to N and OO gauge models of the Class 69. I won't be waiting (neither will I be buying as I have no interest in the 69) but I find it a little annoying that whenever Bachmann or Hornby, and Heljan to some degree make a model we get so much wailing about prices and comments that it'd be so much better if brand A or brand B was making it. Nothing against either A or B but it seems pointless trying to compare a model against an alternative that only exists in the imaginations of some. On price, it is what it is. There are lots of options to manage prices, such as buy less, look fore pre-owned, take a chance and wait to see if stuff appears in clearance offers. Railway modelling is a discretionary hobby, it doesnt have to be expensive but as with any hobby it can become very expensive if people want it to be. Compared with many hobbies I think ours is still very accessible. My son plays ice hockey, that makes model railways look low rent, my boss goes off to other countries to play golf every other weekend, spending £££££££s. My own answer to price is probably highly counterintuitive in that I don't buy much but much of what I buy is rather expensive. 1 8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letterspider Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Seen both the Gbrf and the RTC on the Goblin lines on RHTT duties....onteresting liveries and did sound very much like a 66.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted December 21, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) On 27/11/2023 at 19:34, big jim said: not sure now really but it was the first thing that my eye got drawn to when I saw the pics Easy - that is cab window of Romanian built 56. 69003 is based on 56018, 69005 is based on 56007 and 69011 is based on 56009. All rest of the 69s are based on BREL built locos. So the question is are Bachmann going to produce tooling for just Romanian based 69s or also do tooling to represent BREL based 69s which are the majority…? Edited December 21, 2023 by richierich 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeroz Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Does anybody know if 69 009 or 69 010 have received their liveries yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alan Oliver Posted December 21, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2023 No still in undercoat, believe GBRF wanted to wait until the RHTT season finished before they send them for painting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Rails have posted this on facebook Quote Inside the 2024 Combined Volume Bachmann will reveal details of the first Bachmann Branchline Class 69 Diesel Locomotives, these highly anticipated models wowed when they were displayed at the Warley Show, andBachmann will be opening the order book for these models from Wednesday 7th February. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 12/12/2023 at 01:07, jjb1970 said: I won't be waiting (neither will I be buying as I have no interest in the 69) but I find it a little annoying that whenever Bachmann or Hornby, and Heljan to some degree make a model we get so much wailing about prices and comments that it'd be so much better if brand A or brand B was making it. Nothing against either A or B but it seems pointless trying to compare a model against an alternative that only exists in the imaginations of some. On price, it is what it is. There are lots of options to manage prices, such as buy less, look fore pre-owned, take a chance and wait to see if stuff appears in clearance offers. Railway modelling is a discretionary hobby, it doesnt have to be expensive but as with any hobby it can become very expensive if people want it to be. Compared with many hobbies I think ours is still very accessible. My son plays ice hockey, that makes model railways look low rent, my boss goes off to other countries to play golf every other weekend, spending £££££££s. My own answer to price is probably highly counterintuitive in that I don't buy much but much of what I buy is rather expensive. Cannot disagree with any of that. The hobby is very discretionary, and it is up to the purchaser what they think they can afford or not afford. There is nop need to bleat about i on railway fora because we all know "the price of fish" . 2023 saw me invest a sum of money in a model I wanted, and which had not been available to modellers even as a kit. No grizzling about costs, it's what I was happy with - one man's meat etc. My issue would be paying £57 for a basic kid's football shirt, but having to pay more to have the relevant club logos ironed on. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 2 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Paul.Uni said: Rails have posted this on facebook 1 hour ago, Paul.Uni said: Inside the 2024 Combined Volume Bachmann will reveal details of the first Bachmann Branchline Class 69 Diesel Locomotives, these highly anticipated models wowed when they were displayed at the Warley Show, andBachmann will be opening the order book for these models from Wednesday 7th February Bank of England held interest rates, £ is up against the $, Electric bills coming down, each month passing is one closer to the election and even the Houtis just got a Big one up there jacksy tonight.. There has to be optimism on price somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEARJAMMER Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 21/12/2023 at 14:46, carefreeroz said: Does anybody know if 69 009 or 69 010 have received their liveries yet? 69009 has entered Eastleigh's paint shop, what livery it will emerge in is any ones guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) Has anyone found further details about these models yet? The announcement said info was available online and that order books were open. Edited February 7 by Denny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted February 7 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7 A good question, I saw the sample at Febex at the weekend and it looked very impressive - a friend said it looked to be of Accurascale quality! I couldn't find any mention of it this morning on a skim through the announcements video. Very strange. Perhaps its not as ready as they want it to be or otherwise they want to add some liveries that have not been outshopped yet. Did not one of the real locos enter the Eastleigh works recently to be painted? Nobody has died so not of any great importance in the scheme of things! all the best Godfrey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, Denny said: Has anyone found further details about these models yet? The announcement said info was available online and that order books were open. Still looking / waiting for anything to appear on here or the Bachmann website! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Godfrey Glyn said: A good question, I saw the sample at Febex at the weekend and it looked very impressive - a friend said it looked to be of Accurascale quality! I couldn't find any mention of it this morning on a skim through the announcements video. Very strange. Perhaps its not as ready as they want it to be or otherwise they want to add some liveries that have not been outshopped yet. Did not one of the real locos enter the Eastleigh works recently to be painted? Nobody has died so not of any great importance in the scheme of things! all the best Godfrey The models were mentioned in the announcement video, 5 minutes in. Edited February 7 by Denny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1989 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On kernows website they showing 1,2,3&5 cheers Craig 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 14 minutes ago, Craig1989 said: On kernows website they showing 1,2,3&5 cheers Craig Thanks Craig. Maybe 004 will be a collectors club model. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieghoff Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Ive just pre-ordered two Class 69's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 7 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7 (edited) 27 minutes ago, norfolkchinaclay said: Thanks Craig. Maybe 004 will be a collectors club model. Good bet as 35-779 is the only gap between 35-776 and 780 on the website listings, and the represent 69001,2,3 and 5. Edited February 7 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 The Branchline 69s are now on the Bachmann website. Although there are no RRPs or release dates listed, so I would be surprised if they are released this side of November. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, norfolkchinaclay said: Thanks Craig. Maybe 004 will be a collectors club model. Hope so, it's the one I want! Livery probably suits being a CC model too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 7 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7 (edited) 004 was the first one I drove as my passing out loco so I definitely want that one in my collection! Edited February 7 by big jim 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted February 7 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7 On Rails website too..... Cheers, Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I saw 003 the day it was named so decided to get that and 004 if that becomes available. I’d also like either 009 or 010 in primer as they are running around at the moment.. 😊 Not sure if Bachmann will be tooling for the later versions or not. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Ok correct me if I am wrong. I just got a mail shot from Rails asking me if I wanted to pre order one of these. To be honest I had never heard of a class 69, so I googled it. So basically it is a class 56 with an engine upgrade and cab upgrade, so it will still look like a class 56 but internally a class 66. So externally does it look any different to a class 56? Obviously the sound decoder would be totally different, but as the article said it is basically the same powertrain as fitted to a class 66, so I imagine it must sound the same. So why not renumber a class 56. Does this new model from Bachmann have working fans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn_Bach_Railway Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, ColinB said: Ok correct me if I am wrong. I just got a mail shot from Rails asking me if I wanted to pre order one of these. To be honest I had never heard of a class 69, so I googled it. So basically it is a class 56 with an engine upgrade and cab upgrade, so it will still look like a class 56 but internally a class 66. So externally does it look any different to a class 56? Obviously the sound decoder would be totally different, but as the article said it is basically the same powertrain as fitted to a class 66, so I imagine it must sound the same. So why not renumber a class 56. Does this new model from Bachmann have working fans? From my understanding, the body shape is the same. But the lights, roof’s and exhausts as well as some other details will be different. Working fans will only be on the SFX (sound fitted deluxe) models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 7 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7 (edited) There is a fair bit of external difference between a 56 and 69, extra grille, totally different roof panels, revised from end and lights etc etc they have also been going in for modifications which involve removing the rain gutter above the front windscreen amongst other subtle mods Sounds a bit like a 66 but seems to rev a bit higher, doesn’t ying as much as a 66 to my ears, lots of little individual sounds different to a 66 too, warning buzzer, brake sounds (different brake type compared to a 66) I had a brain freeze earlier and couldnt remember what liveries were about, totally forgot about 69005 in green, that’s a definite order for me too, go nice with 66779 Edited February 7 by big jim 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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