RMweb Premium dale159 Posted March 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Or even a link to the eBay store please?Hi, it was a private seller not a business seller so I would suspect they just had that one, seem to be plenty available from other sellers though. Dale Edited March 4, 2017 by dale159 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Hi, it was a private seller not a business seller so I would suspect they just had that one, seem to be plenty available from other sellers though. Dale Ah I see; it was because you said about getting another I thought it was a shop. Thanks anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted March 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2017 I wonder if there are longer snooker bat cases, to get a Brighton Belle in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dale159 Posted March 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) I wonder if there are longer snooker bat cases, to get a Brighton Belle in?I think 48 inches is the longest type, I'm not sure how long a Brighton Belle is as I don't own one Dale Edited March 4, 2017 by dale159 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Here are a couple of sights I found by typing "pool cue case" into my search engine One is in OZ here another is here , this one shows one that is Outside measurements 151CM(59in) x 23 x 6 CM which could hold 3 to 5, 5 car trains 5 Brighton Belle coaches at about 10" long = about 50" John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted March 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2017 Perhaps someone should suggest to a pool/snooker cue case manufacturer that there is money to be made by making similar cases for model railways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 That's a loopy idea...... Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) Here are a couple of sights I found by typing "pool cue case" into my search engine One is in OZ here another is here , this one shows one that is Outside measurements 151CM(59in) x 23 x 6 CM which could hold 3 to 5, 5 car trains 5 Brighton Belle coaches at about 10" long = about 50" John Will still fit, but Hornby Belle coaches are more like 11" long. The prototype were 67' each. I'm sticking with my train safe travel. Roy Edited March 5, 2017 by Roy Langridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Will still fit, but Hornby Belle coaches are more like 11" long. The prototype were 67' each. I'm sticking with my train safe travel. Roy Roy I got off my ass went down stairs and measured one & you're right they are 11" long, my previous statement regarding their length was a guess. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 In this weeks news letter Kernow have found an all blue one in the back of their store cupboard! £99. Edit: Gone already. I guess I need to start communicating more... I've still got 5 http://www.trains4u.com/product/6976/Hornby_R2946_BR_Class_423_VEP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Colin Posted March 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2017 Has anyone tried using a VEP as the basis for a CIG conversion? I have a spare VEP and a set of Dart Castings sides, and was just wondering if this was feasible. As I understand, the bogies and underframe are very similar, if not identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Has anyone tried using a VEP as the basis for a CIG conversion? I have a spare VEP and a set of Dart Castings sides, and was just wondering if this was feasible. As I understand, the bogies and underframe are very similar, if not identical. I'm fairly sure someone on this forum did so. It would certainly form a good basis for the CIG ... or a BIG, for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2017 Has anyone tried using a VEP as the basis for a CIG conversion? I have a spare VEP and a set of Dart Castings sides, and was just wondering if this was feasible. As I understand, the bogies and underframe are very similar, if not identical. Just remember the Mk1 Cig and Big units had leaf spring bogies on the motor coaches. Everything else was on coils. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Central Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Has anyone tried using a VEP as the basis for a CIG conversion? I have a spare VEP and a set of Dart Castings sides, and was just wondering if this was feasible. As I understand, the bogies and underframe are very similar, if not identical. I have, and a BIG too. Have a look at my Central Division c.1987 workbench thread 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdanny Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Has anyone tried using a VEP as the basis for a CIG conversion? I have a spare VEP and a set of Dart Castings sides, and was just wondering if this was feasible. As I understand, the bogies and underframe are very similar, if not identical. It's a great base to work from. I built a 6REP using this method! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Just remember the Mk1 Cig and Big units had leaf spring bogies on the motor coaches. Everything else was on coils. The first (Brighton Line) series yes. The second series had B6 bogies. (As in those being retro fitted to the Brighton Belle.) I believe some of the first series units also acquired B6 bogies in their later life - recovered from withdrawn 4REP units? Edited March 9, 2017 by jonathan452 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The first (Brighton Line) series yes. The second series had B6 bogies. (As in those being retro fitted to the Brighton Belle.) I believe some of the first series units also acquired B6 bogies in their later life - recovered from withdrawn 4REP units? I hadn't realised the renovated Belle is being fitted with modern bogies. That'll stop the wild ride the old ladies tended to get!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The first (Brighton Line) series yes. The second series had B6 bogies. (As in those being retro fitted to the Brighton Belle.) I believe some of the first series units also acquired B6 bogies in their later life - recovered from withdrawn 4REP units? Oh what a shame, and here I was hoping for a wild ride while eating my diner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted March 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2017 Oh what a shame, and here I was hoping for a wild ride while eating my diner. It must be wild if you are eating your diner, rather than your dinner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I hope Hornby wont give up on the 4vep. With 3 upgrades it should be a very good model. Corridor windows cut Better running Bogies round the right way. The basic model is a good one and would be very good if these problems could be sorted. Would like to see this back in the main range for 2018 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) I hope Hornby wont give up on the 4vep. With 3 upgrades it should be a very good model. Corridor windows cut Better running Bogies round the right way. The basic model is a good one and would be very good if these problems could be sorted. Would like to see this back in the main range for 2018 On the last run, the corridor windows were cut and the bogies put round the right way. The bogies are easy enough to fix on the first 2 runs, unclip them and put them round the right way. You will need to pull off the guard irons on the end ones though and put them on the opposite end of the bogie (these were missing on the last run). That said roof vents and horns remain too small and the front is possibly the hardest feature to put right. The thing is, the last run did not sell, I picked one up for a £100 at half price. There are still models in some shops out there now. Edited May 27, 2017 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 On the last run, the corridor windows were cut and the bogies put round the right way. The bogies are easy enough to fix on the first 2 runs, unclip them and put them round the right way. You will need to pull off the guard irons on the end ones though and put them on the opposite end of the bogie (these were missing on the last run). That said roof vents and horns remain too small and the front is possibly the hardest feature to put right. The thing is, the last run did not sell, I picked one up for a £100 at half price. There are still models in some shops out there now. I picked up three Blue-Greys from the second run. They are good runners. They look the part. But they are not perfect and need some attention, especially to the cab ends. But, Hornby did make them, and made a better job of it than I could with a BPM or DCK kit. They are more detailed than a BPM RTR, and cost a lot less. I acknowledge the failings, contrasted to the better fist Bachmann made of the 4CEP and 2EPB. But I think the constant harping about them has put Hornby off risking more investment in a 4 car EMU. That is a great shame. AFAIK, only the all blue version of the 4VEPs remain on the shelves - this was never going to sell in large quantities. This is a real criticism of Hornby's decision. They have a real knowledge gap in what to produce in the BR late 1960's to mid 80's era, probably the next most popular period, once the green diesel/end of steam ascendancy is passed (having overtaken the nearly all steam 1950's peak)? I admit my bias, but we do seem to be seeing an age related popularity shift, according to polls and to the products emerging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The bad press did not help agreed. Still looking forward to seeing more blue grey units. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Might there be a market for 3D printed replacement ends? Or even just the gangway and end door? Those behind the excellent Shelvington layout have redone the ends on a Vep and it looks good. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Will we see new veps in 2018 Please Hornby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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