Craig1989 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Just seen on Facebook that there has been a derailment at petrill bridge south of Carlisle. Apparently points failed and the back 7 wagons have derailed, 2 have ended up in the river and 1 apparently has ended up in the yard of a b&q. Apparently it was 6c00 cement train to clitheroe and 66739 was the loco. cheers Craig 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 19, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Craig1989 said: Just seen on Facebook that there has been a derailment at petrill bridge south of Carlisle. Apparently points failed and the back 7 wagons have derailed, 2 have ended up in the river and 1 apparently has ended up in the yard of a b&q. Apparently it was 6c00 cement train to clitheroe and 66739 was the loco. cheers Craig Train was loaded 6C00 from Clitheroe to Carlisle. Driver OK. Edited October 19, 2022 by newbryford typo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 19, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 19, 2022 pics of the derailed wagons appearing on social media already, it’s a right mess by the look of it 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2022 Looking at photos of the derailment you can see why Accurascale put so much detail underneath their wagons. 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Craig1989 said: Just seen on Facebook that there has been a derailment at petrill bridge south of Carlisle. Apparently points failed and the back 7 wagons have derailed, 2 have ended up in the river and 1 apparently has ended up in the yard of a b&q. Apparently it was 6c00 cement train to clitheroe and 66739 was the loco. cheers Craig Landed in B&Q ? At least it landed in the right place, are they going to have a cement sale ? Edited October 20, 2022 by adb968008 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ColinK said: Looking at photos of the derailment you can see why Accurascale put so much detail underneath their wagons. The Bachmann JPA (of the same type involved) is exceedingly well detailed underneath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2022 Now on the BBC, with typically inaccurate reporting https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-63325259 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: Landed in B&Q ? ... are they going to have a cement sale ? I'm more worried about flooding - Carlisle's had its fair share of problems in the past, but with the River Petteril cemented up ................. ! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, melmerby said: Why when it all orange for all staff and PPE does that copper think is OK to stand in the 4ft with no PPE and non compliant HV 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2022 As I understand it, emergency services wear their normal yellow Hi-vis to distinguish them from railway staff. This was explained to me when some of my colleagues were carrying out archaeological work inside the railway boundary prior to the realignment of Northam Junction. They had to be issued orange gear instead of our usual Highways grade yellow because they weren't emergency services. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I always thought orange high-vis was so rail workers weren't mistaken for a yellow aspect signal from a distance in low light/darkness. That's what I've read/been told anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 hours ago, adb968008 said: Landed in B&Q ? At least it landed in the right place, are they going to have a cement sale ? Doesn't look like they got a lot ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2022 There's an aerial pic here: https://cumbriacrack.com/2022/10/20/freight-train-derails-in-carlisle/ 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, petethemole said: As I understand it, emergency services wear their normal yellow Hi-vis to distinguish them from railway staff. This was explained to me when some of my colleagues were carrying out archaeological work inside the railway boundary prior to the realignment of Northam Junction. They had to be issued orange gear instead of our usual Highways grade yellow because they weren't emergency services. Although a while since I retired as our local authority Emergency Planning Officer (2008) I can confirm that colour distinction for hi-viz applied then. Obviously I can’t confirm if it still does. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, newbryford said: There's an aerial pic here: https://cumbriacrack.com/2022/10/20/freight-train-derails-in-carlisle/ There are some very ropey looking sleepers in there and evidence of spot-resleepering. 5 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, newbryford said: https://cumbriacrack.com/2022/10/20/freight-train-derails-in-carlisle/ Good to read that there weren't any passengers on the train ! 🙄 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2022 RAIB initial investigation https://www.gov.uk/government/news/derailment-of-a-freight-train-at-petteril-bridge-junction-carlisle 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, big jim said: RAIB initial investigation https://www.gov.uk/government/news/derailment-of-a-freight-train-at-petteril-bridge-junction-carlisle Hi Jim That just brings up the home page. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 5944 Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, melmerby said: Hi Jim That just brings up the home page. It did say they were investigating it and that one of the derailed wagons had false flanges worn into the wheelsets. Reports elsewhere that it ran from Culgaith with the brakes locked up on one wagon, so it'll be very interesting to see the final report. Not the first time that's happened. 1 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, 5944 said: It did say they were investigating it and that one of the derailed wagons had false flanges worn into the wheelsets. Reports elsewhere that it ran from Culgaith with the brakes locked up on one wagon, so it'll be very interesting to see the final report. Not the first time that's happened. There is a pic somewhere, showing a big flat on one of the wheels of the wagon upside down in the river. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 hours ago, melmerby said: Hi Jim That just brings up the home page. they must have amended it as it originally bought up an initial report stating what 5922 has put above about the false flange Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthBox Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 10 hours ago, russ p said: Why when it all orange for all staff and PPE does that copper think is OK to stand in the 4ft with no PPE and non compliant HV The yellow hi-vis tactical vest is standard PPE for BTP officers and has been for decades now. They stopped wearing orange hi-vis in the mid 1990s. In any case the police officer will have been placed in that spot on scene guarding duty by their operational commander (he won’t have just decided to stand in the four foot next to the derailed vehicles of his own accord) and the railway there was totally shut with no risk of being struck by a train movement. The colour of the hi-vis vest he’s wearing is academic in those circumstances. 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: There are some very ropey looking sleepers in there and evidence of spot-resleepering. Slued the track about a foot then ripped the cess rail from the pandrols. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2022 Bridge looks a mess: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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