Brian Indge Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Betty’s Husband, only Collectors Club members could order the model as you know and it is unavailable for anyone to order on Hornby’s website I’m afraid. I must have been one of the last to order it as only a few minutes after I placed my order the “Unavailable” notice appeared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Jackson Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Betty's Husband said: Thanks Philip, what does it say on the website if you’re a collectors club member? Still in stock? Hi, yes its still available to pre order. you have to be a member of the collectors club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Dublo2 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Philip Jackson said: Hi, yes its still available to pre order. you have to be a member of the collectors club It's sold out, for members it says Unavailable but the Pre-order Now button is still visible. If you do click on the button you get a message stating 'Sorry we are out of stock' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted November 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2022 I imagine once they're all back from Warley on Monday, they'll increase the run. They must have got a few extra Collector Club memberships too out of it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlandRed Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 An example was on the Hornby stand at Warley - although I had to ask for directions to it amongst the other rather nice new EPs and the very impressive TT layout. The Coronation coaches (next to 46220) were particularly nice - maybe I was dazzled by the presence of the TV stars Simon Kohler and Montana!! 😁 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 On 26/11/2022 at 13:03, JohnR said: I recall when Hornby announced the Purple Platinum loco, there were lots of people saying the same sorts of things. They have yet to eat their portion of humble pie, despite the clear success of that issue. This one will do just as well, I'm sure. I have to say I'm tempted myself. Slightly different kettle of fish though. We didn't really know how well an oddity such as 70 Elizabeth II would sell. It was a bit of a risk. But a bog standard Semi fronted Duchess in 1950s Blue? Should have added a zero to the amount they are making and put it in the main range. I would have bought at least three, keeping one as Coronation. Most of them got that livery. Hoping for some more Duchesses to be issued in the next main announcement. Jason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just noticed on the Warley photo, its got a headboard too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) Not 100% sure, but the boiler join without the rivets and top feed in the photo appear to be from the previous generation model. It may well be that Hornby have used this older production loco body as a livery sample. Edited November 29, 2022 by Black 5 Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2022 On 26/11/2022 at 11:00, andyman7 said: This thread already seems to encompass the divergence between Hornby's core market and RMWeb readers. It's like a Venn diagram with no overlap. Am I interested in this? Not particularly. In that vein all the 'so what' comments could apply to me. Does it make sense for Hornby's core market? Even I can see it does. It's a pretty, blue steam loco with a Royal connection. So I am sure it will sell well. Meanwhile, announcements such as the Heljan 86/2 suit me down to the ground but are unlikely to set the pulses racing for the average Sunday supplement reader. Hornby are only making 500 of the Coronation models, and they will already have gauged the market for the ersatz HD format from previous releases. I therefore imagine they'll be expecting to sell all of them, if indeed they haven't already done so. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty's Husband Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) If anyone is interested I’ve just been able to buy one on the website. Don’t know if there have been a few cancellations or if they’ve released another batch…. Edited December 15, 2022 by Betty's Husband 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Snap! 😀 Noticed it was available for pre-order whilst looking for something else. Re-joined the club and ordered it! Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted May 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2023 Heads up back in stock, last few… £135 after club discount. https://uk.Hornby.com/products/br-coronation-class-4-6-2-46220-coronation-era-4-club-exclusive-r30283?_br_psugg_q=r30283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted May 23, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 hours ago, adb968008 said: Heads up back in stock, last few… £135 after club discount. https://uk.Hornby.com/products/br-coronation-class-4-6-2-46220-coronation-era-4-club-exclusive-r30283?_br_psugg_q=r30283 Bargain price compared to the main range just released 46245! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PeterStiles Posted May 23, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2023 I have email from Hornby informing me it's arrived with them and will be forwarded ASAP... Now where did I leave that decoder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy100 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Did 46220 have red nameplates?? There is a very good painting showing the loco in blue livery (1950-52) pulling the Royal Scot and the plates are most definitely black. A replica nameplate that was displayed at the NRM for some years was also black. I was told Scottish shedded Coronations had red plates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted May 23, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted May 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Bulleidboy100 said: Did 46220 have red nameplates?? Every colour image I have seen shows black plates and I've seen one of the original plates, in black, in a collection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 18 hours ago, Bulleidboy100 said: Did 46220 have red nameplates?? There is a very good painting showing the loco in blue livery (1950-52) pulling the Royal Scot and the plates are most definitely black. A replica nameplate that was displayed at the NRM for some years was also black. I was told Scottish shedded Coronations had red plates? They had red plates when they were black. Maybe some did still have red plates when blue during the change over? If so then I feel it might have been very short lived. Could have even been a temporary embellishment for the 1953 Coronation. Mine will be getting replacements anyway. I doubt the NRM plate was a replica. It would be an original, even if it was a spare not carried by the locomotive. LNWR George V 5000 Coronation's plates were definitely red. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=153989880757247&set=a.116674507822118 Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold palmsticks Posted May 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2023 Anybody got LMS Locomotives in Profile 11 to see if it mentions anything? https://wildswanbooks.co.uk/Books/Coronation-Pacifics-Profile11.htm maybe https://wildswanbooks.co.uk/Books/Coronation-Pacifics-Profile11-Sup.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold palmsticks Posted May 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: I doubt the NRM plate was a replica. It would be an original, even if it was a spare not carried by the locomotive. It might be a replica as it is not listed on their object search page: https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/search/objects/object_type/nameplate?page[number]=1 Also: https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/search/objects/object_type/locomotive-nameplate?page=100 Be interesting to know. Will email search.engine@railwaymuseum.org.uk 5 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: LNWR George V 5000 Coronation's plates were definitely red. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=153989880757247&set=a.116674507822118 Jason Wow! that is some nameplate! Edited May 24, 2023 by palmsticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocp Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Page 152 of the Wild Swan book says Coronation plus 46223, 46225, 46231, 46237, 46239 and 46254 did have red backed nameplates for some of the time they were in BR blue, but no specific dates are given. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy100 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) The item I read said that the black replica nameplate displayed at the NRM was made of wood! Why, on the rather ornate red plate displayed in a previous post say "5000th engine built at the Locomotive Works Crewe - June 1911"? 46220 was build in 1937. Edited May 25, 2023 by Bulleidboy100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bulleidboy100 said: The item I read said that the black replica nameplate displayed at the NRM was made of wood! Probably a casting mould or a display mock up rather than a "modern" replica. They did have first option on all the nameplates as what is now the NRM was originally part of BR. That's why it irks that things that many think should have been saved wasn't as they were getting them for virtually nothing. Even in the 1970s you could get nameplates for just a few pounds in Collectors Corner in Euston. I remember when there was hundreds of nameplates all over the walls of the old NRM and they were all the famous engines in the history books that had gone for scrap. Now there are only a few on display. Jason Edited May 25, 2023 by Steamport Southport 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 13 hours ago, Brocp said: Page 152 of the Wild Swan book says Coronation plus 46223, 46225, 46231, 46237, 46239 and 46254 did have red backed nameplates for some of the time they were in BR blue, but no specific dates are given. They have done 46237 previously. https://www.hattons.co.uk/17647/hornby_r2553_princess_coronation_class_4_6_2_46237_city_of_bristol_in_br_blue/stockdetail That's why I am wondering whether Hornby have got it right with Coronation having red backed plates or whether they are assuming it had them. Unfortunately colour photos from the time are pretty rare and most are suggesting they had black plates which was the official colour for blue engines. There obviously was exceptions, I think some Merchant Navies also had red plates whilst blue. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy100 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 The only colour picture I can find of 46220 in Blue livery, is in the painting by Artist Malcolm Root FGRA. When mine arrives I think it will get black plates - the red on the Hornby model seems to jump out at you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Mine just arrived but I can't check it properly as I'm going out. It looks like it might have a set of plates in the bag. Has got the flanged wheels if anyone is wondering. Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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