Unusual and interesting coaches on Flickr

[Wickham Green too]

15 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

M33691 Stove 

That vehicle appears twice in Peter Tatlow's Historic Carriage Drawings Volume Three ( Pendragon 2000 ) : it's a 37'9'' H.R. Passenger Brake formerly numbered 7353 by the LMS or HR No.10. What is VERY ODD is the three light panels shown on all three photos - this might be a crossover of ideas with the Southern who used similarly-positioned orange panels to denote the presence of a stove.

 

Edited September 5, 2023 by Wickham Green too
not OPC

[stewartingram]

11 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

Waterloo, rather than Vauxhall.

 

I wasn’t overly switched on to carriages in the early 70s either, but I do recall the LMS sleepers because they were easy to distinguish by the recessed door handles. Coaches must have dawned on me at some stage, because I did make a pilgrimage* to ride in a Gresley Buffet car, out behind a 37 from Liverpool Street, and back in the buffet car to K+ behind a 31, or the other way round. Then c1975, I got an RCTS coaching stock book, but it was becoming a bit late by then.

* think that was the trip I funded by restoring and selling an old wheelbarrow that I got from the dump. Pumped the tyre up, cursory de-rust with a wire brush, tin of Woolworths green enamel (badly applied and left the brush to go hard without cleaning), and sold it for enough to pay for a return to Cambridge.

 

 

 

Ah! "Our" Gresley Buffet on the Cambridge Buffet Express, I was no coach fan but was quite upset when they replaced it with a Mk1. I believe it (there must have been more than  one used, but I recognised the number) ended up on the KWVR.

I went on a few Merrymakers to Blackpool from Cambridge. One year we went via the loop (St.Ives), my local line, and the formation included a Gresley Buffet. I spent more time in that than in my seat in the adjacent Mk1 - the ride quality was far superior.

Edited September 5, 2023 by stewartingram

[Mike_Walker]

W9135E was one of a handful of Gresley buffet cars which survived in traffic into the 1970's.  It is seen on the 'Hymek Swansong' tour at Hereford on 22 September 1973.  Built at York 1937 for the GE section as 650, Lot 761 Diagram 167, withdrawn 1977 and preserved by the NRM. 

 

[melmerby]

12 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

That vehicle appears twice in Peter Tatlow's Historic Carriage Drawings Volume Three ( OPC 2000 )

Has that changed?

Mine says it's published by Pendragon Partnership 2000

[Wickham Green too]

13 minutes ago, melmerby said:

... published by Pendragon Partnership 2000

Yep - Apologies to Pendragon ( I knew there was a 'P' in there somewhere ) ☹️

[Mike_Walker]

This Gresley full brake (?) was photographed at Whitemoor Yard on October 1991 by a now passed away friend.  Can anyone identify it?  The Commonwealth bogies are an interesting addition.

 

[BernardTPM]

It probably wouldn't be the first Gresley body with Commonwealth bogie: those were the recommended functional bogies for the Trix card kits! 😁

Edited September 5, 2023 by BernardTPM

[Rugd1022]

Taken by a mate at work - a Hawksworth BG in departmental use down on the Bridge Street branch at Northampton in the '80s...

 

 

 

 

 

[Rugd1022]

 

 

[woodenhead]

18 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said:

 

 

Ahh a baby Mk1 CCT, reckon that's about 6 months old and about to undergo a growth spurt and it's second set of doors will break out.

[DOCJACOB]

3 hours ago, Mike_Walker said:

This Gresley full brake (?) was photographed at Whitemoor Yard on October 1991 by a now passed away friend.  Can anyone identify it?  The Commonwealth bogies are an interesting addition.

 

Hung around quite a while in that state. 

The LNER bogies were swapped out, finally grounded without Commonwealth. 
 

E5264E or ADE 320703 if Departmentals website to believed. 

[hmrspaul]

47 minutes ago, DOCJACOB said:

Hung around quite a while in that state. 

The LNER bogies were swapped out, finally grounded without Commonwealth. 
 

E5264E or ADE 320703 if Departmentals website to believed. 

in happier times https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/erdepartmentalstock/e28351536

 

Paul

[Wickham Green too]

2 hours ago, woodenhead said:

Ahh a baby Mk1 CCT, reckon that's about 6 months old and about to undergo a growth spurt and it's second set of doors will break out.

I reckon it'll grow up to be a horsebox !

[montyburns56]

3 hours ago, Rugd1022 said:

Taken by a mate at work - a Hawksworth BG in departmental use down on the Bridge Street branch at Northampton in the '80s...

 

 

 

 

 

 

As someone who has been waiting almost four years for Farish to release their Hawksworth BG in rail blue that is a very interesting variant.

[montyburns56]

10 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

I reckon it'll grow up to be a horsebox !

 

For now it's only suitable if you are a little horse.

[Compound2632]

10 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

For now it's only suitable if you are a little horse.

 

Loaded with crates of Strepsils?

[Bucoops]

22 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Loaded with crates of Strepsils?

 

You would be a sucker to believe that!

 

Not Flickr as it's my own photo but I find this coach utterly fascinating.

 

 

Started as two 27ft suburbans built by the GER in 1905. They then started on a program of using two bodies on a single 54ft underframe. This is the sole survivor, at Mangapps. Kept nice and dry undercover these days.

 

[montyburns56]

DE320540 which is an Ex GCR Barnum coach built in 1910 at Dukinfield Carriage & Wagon Works GCR No 664. by Keith Long

 

 

[Johann Marsbar]

46 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

DE320540 which is an Ex GCR Barnum coach built in 1910 at Dukinfield Carriage & Wagon Works GCR No 664. by Keith Long

 

 

 

That one is now sitting at Ruddington on the GCR(N) awaiting restoration.

 

 

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Edited September 6, 2023 by Johann Marsbar

[jessy1692]

On 04/09/2023 at 20:49, Rugd1022 said:

Another ex-LMS Sleeper, M609M at Carlisle Kingmoor in July 1977...

 

 

Pullman Nightcap Bar M310E...

 

 

Another ex- LMS Sleeper M392M at Wolverton...

 

 

Mk1 Bullion Car W99203 at Clapham Junction Yard in December 1977...

 

 

Ex- LNER Sleeper NE1760E...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NE1760E in blue and grey! I think that's the first iv seen of a NE prefix in B&G.  I feel some Thompson sleepers coming on.

Great pics

Cheers

James

[SZ]

14 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

DE320540 which is an Ex GCR Barnum coach built in 1910 at Dukinfield Carriage & Wagon Works GCR No 664. by Keith Long

 

 

 

Those Barnum coaches must be the ugliest I've seen in the UK. Like something you would see being pulled by a saddle tank on one of the smaller heritage lines.

 

Edited September 7, 2023 by SZ

[russ p]

15 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

DE320540 which is an Ex GCR Barnum coach built in 1910 at Dukinfield Carriage & Wagon Works GCR No 664. by Keith Long

 

 

 

I'm surprised they were used as departmental vehicles as they are built to slightly bigger loading gauge I believe 

[billbedford]

16 minutes ago, russ p said:

I'm surprised they were used as departmental vehicles as they are built to slightly bigger loading gauge I believe 

Bigger than what exactly? Wasn't the GC loading gauge set in stone in the 1840s when the Woodhead tunnels were built?

[Wickham Green too]

24 minutes ago, russ p said:

... they are built to slightly bigger loading gauge I believe 

How silly of them to build excursion stock which might be route-restricted ! ......................... 9' wide over the panelling was not excessive - though those end grab rails look a little vulnerable !

[russ p]

2 hours ago, billbedford said:

Bigger than what exactly? Wasn't the GC loading gauge set in stone in the 1840s when the Woodhead tunnels were built?

 

I thought GC engines were an inch or two higher hence a batch of directors with reduced height cabs and boiler fittings