RMweb Premium Popular Post RapidoCorbs Posted February 16 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 16 (edited) The railways of Scotland are sparsely represented in OO Gauge, so we are pleased to buck the trend and bring you the first ever item of ready-to-run Caledonian Railway freight stock – the Diagram 67 10t van. Spanning coast to coast of Scotland, the Caledonian Railway owned lines from Aberdeen to Annan, covering some of the most scenic railways to grace the UK network. This widespread railway not only served the majority of Scotland’s major cities but also a huge amount of industry and commerce throughout its 76-year history. Routes to the most highly populated areas of the country created a noticeable increase in traffic, and with the company’s goal of providing competitive cross-border trains and excursion traffic to the coast it grew exponentially. Along with the towns and cities, its access to the numerous ports that were dotted along the Firths of the Clyde and Forth meant there was a steady stream of laden freight wagons, moving into and out of the area, and as the turn of the century approached a need for suitable stock to safely transport explosives arose. In 1903, the first Diagram.67 van rolled off of the production line with the firms of R.Y. Pickering constructing 150 vehicles, Motherwell Wagon & Rolling Stock Co. 25, and Renshaw another 25. This initial batch was the first of many, and by the time a further batch had been ordered in 1907 the initial design had been revised to replace the original roof door with end ventilators. Shortly after the outbreak of WW1, the Traffic Committee authorised the conversion of several Dia.67 vans to carry Cordite paste, a key component in the creation of artillery shells. The design proved successful, as two more batches of 150 vans were ordered in 1917. By 1918, over 1300 examples of the vans had been constructed. Continuing through the grouping railway era and into nationalisation the Dia.67 travelled far and wide across the UK, finding themselves much further afield than their native land. Several even ended up in the hands of some rather interesting privately owned companies, including Britain’s most famous confectioner Cadbury. Numerous Dia.67 Vans have survived into preservation, including at the Scottish Railway Preservation Society museum at Bo’ness. The Rapido Trains UK OO Gauge Caledonian Railway Dia.67 Van features full external, and underframe details including brass bearings for smooth friction-free running, NEM coupling pockets and a high-quality livery application. Tooling covers two different wheel styles, Morton hand brakes, duel or vacuum fitted brakes, and three different axlebox and spring arrangements. RRP is £34.95 and they can be pre-ordered from us or any of our retailers - click here to go to our website and browse all 22 versions Edited February 16 by RapidoCorbs 20 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Great choice with a lot to choose from! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Fair Oak Junction Posted February 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16 An actual RTR item of Edwardian goods stock? I refuse to believe it! 😄 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold John B Posted February 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16 Great choice! I'll be having a fair few of these! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted February 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16 Congratulations to Rapido on this bold move! Within The 00 Wishlist Poll, we sadly don't have room to list individual vehicles of all the railway companies. However, for 2022 (the last Poll to run), we created a new category for 'specifically Scottish' items. We listed CR Rolling Stock - and it came in High Polling.🙂 The next Poll will run near Christmas. Within that, we have split up the listings into two for you and CR fans will find: CR Freight Stock CR Passenger & Non-passenger-carrying Stock. We wish Rapido every success with the project. Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team) 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted February 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16 When are these likely to arrive? Working out how many to order to spread out my pre-orders. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Hi, Looking forward to the new CR box vans, did they survive into BR days, and if so for how long before they went into departmental use? Thanks Fred 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossy5190 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Very much looking forward to these. Good to see a mainstream manufacturer taking an interest in Scottish railways. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted February 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Fredo said: Hi, Looking forward to the new CR box vans, did they survive into BR days, and if so for how long before they went into departmental use? Thanks Fred Some did - rapido are offering them in both BR grey and Bauxite liveries. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 minutes ago, JohnR said: Some did - rapido are offering them in both BR grey and Bauxite liveries. The photos of M300421 and M300938 in 'The Acquired Wagons of British Railways' volume 4 are dated 'early 1950s'. Both have clasp vacuum brakes. There's a photo of M309426 on the linked Rapido page. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) I can die happy 😁 Iron Mink, LNWR Dia.88 and now CR Dia.67. What's next? 😁 The Bachmann 812 has got wagons to work with at last!! Edited February 16 by Garethp8873 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted February 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16 Well I've long wanted Scottish pre-grouping loco's and stock in RTR so I'll put my money where my mouth is and I'll be pre-ordering every CR and BR example of these. A cheeky ask is any chance of a sliding door on these! I suspect not but could be worth a try as you got it right on your VIX wagons even though I know it was a pain. I could see some nice cameos of people loading crates of Cadbury into them or just an excuse someone needed to get one that had made it that bit further afield! It could inspire a Cadbury's layout or two as well! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathonAG Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Well, that'll be several on order! Well done Rapido, continuing to shine a light on Scotland. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Pre-ordered the four CR ones, the four pre-1936 LMS ones, the RNAD one and the NCB Toolvan. All four of my interests Pre-grouping, early grouping, military and industrial. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Is that a 10' wheelbase? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippel Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Following on from the development of the SE&CR stuff, a brake van will follow soon, I hope! Thanks Paul 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 The one that has me most curious is the Cadbury liveried pair (nice to see subtle differences between the pair as well!). Roughly which period does this variation of Cadbury's livery cover, and what traffic were they found in? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean the Bob Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Great news, finally some Caledonian Railways stock! Definitely will be picking up the 4 CR liveried ones at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 20 minutes ago, Miss Prism said: Is that a 10' wheelbase? 10’6” I believe. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Doomed... I'm doomed. Well at least that's what my wallet is telling me. Mind you, its my own fault, I shouldn't have converted those Southern look-alikes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 52 minutes ago, 69843 said: The one that has me most curious is the Cadbury liveried pair (nice to see subtle differences between the pair as well!). Roughly which period does this variation of Cadbury's livery cover, and what traffic were they found in? I know they were in use until the late 1960s. The 266 example is former SVR resident 304543 which is now at Ferryhill in Aberdeen. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamingWales Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 One would hope there is a Caly tank on the horizon 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 18 minutes ago, SteamingWales said: One would hope there is a Caly tank on the horizon In the meantime there's an 812 😊 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidoTom Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, E100 said: A cheeky ask is any chance of a sliding door on these! No plans to at the moment - we were concerned that making it robust enough to withstand general handling would have meant overscale details and losing some of the fidelity, but we have managed to incorporate separately fitted elements such as the lower door rail. 1 hour ago, Miss Prism said: Is that a 10' wheelbase? 10ft 6in - enough for some to get BR XP markings! 1 hour ago, 69843 said: The one that has me most curious is the Cadbury liveried pair (nice to see subtle differences between the pair as well!). Roughly which period does this variation of Cadbury's livery cover, and what traffic were they found in? You could spend a fair while spotting the differences, I certainly spent a while CAD modelling them all! Van No. 266 left Cadbury's in 1967 but we think it was still in this livery in 1977 if the photo is dated correctly. Van 278 was preserved at the same time, I don't know when they were originally sold to Cadbury though. Traffic is not entirely clear, some vans on site were used to store ingredients, others were used as permanent way tool storage. Cadbury had at least 4 of these ex-CR vans and as they were ventilated, my guess would be ingredient storage - there are hints to that in various places online but I can't say for certain! 3 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidoandy Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 They were known as ‘crumb vans’ on the Cadbury railway system. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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