RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted November 17, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2009 So, now the curiosity is getting at me.......slowly but surely..........after working out that it doesnt 'actually' weigh 135tons after all........... Can any of our FL friends please tell us, having seen pictures of this new cab design : What is the left hand computer screen for ? What is the right hand computer screen for ? What are the levers in front of the Driving position for ? ( i.e.....Reverser, Auto-Brake, Straight Air Brake, Throttle ? ) You could generally work this out before but these Class 70's seem to be a whole, new breed of animal....... Thats all for now, Many Thanks, Dave I found the following image from an other web site ( and I have lost the details ). But I think but can't be sure that they display speed air pressures and other relevant information for the driver to be monitored, as for the leavers. Going from left to right. it could be Loco Brake only Train Brake Power Controller with dynamic brake ( if fitted) Forward and reverser lever. From what I can see the AWS reset button is on the far left of the control desk, which is a bit of a pain if you are right handed, to which I would have thought that a high percentage of drivers are. :icon_frustrated: All above are only guess, and as I can not confirm if they are right. And yes they are growing on me as well. :icon_redface: Terry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Is that a cup holder I see in the bottom right of the above picture? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinburgh Junction Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Looks like the americans have given space for a mc Donald bottle.... or us brits, would put a cupa down, maybe tea.... or coffee..... yea, looks like it Julian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Looks like the americans have given space for a mc Donald bottle.... This might be, but there's no hotplate..........! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted November 18, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2009 This might be, but there's no hotplate..........! I suppose the next thing they would like is a Microwave and a colour telly :P :P Terry runs for the exit .....................FAST :D :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentskj Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 These to me look like double ended Americana - which don't bother me as like the American style but i don't like the fact it is in Britain Their original plan was for the Class 68.... very strange. I prefer 68 as well.... suits it more. Been photoshopping recently, and come up with this, a DRS compass liveried 70 (70101) The photo used, is copyright to Gareth Bayer ?© who has kindly given me permission to post this image Want a livery request? Just ask, and I shall see what I can do. Dude could you do an EWS version and Then a DBS (DB schenker) Cheers in advance (Pm for my email and can you email the DRS one ) Sam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Caught 70002 at Stoke Gifford today. It's definitely growing on me. It's amazing how much better it looks in a nicer livery - I like both of these that I've done. I do like the 58 livery, with a bit of extra black round the front makes the black light clusters look a lot less alien. cheers jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Theyre definatley growing on me, I like your 58 livery Jo, how about replacing the crash boxes with split headcode boxes they remind me of a US loco (especially with that wide buldge on each engine side) with european cabs stuck on. I quite like the skirting around the buffers,I wonder how long thatll last, going by history, they look nice when 2 are coupled together, very close. chubby cheeks Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 whos gonna be the first to scratchbuild one then? one thing youll need is a hell of a lot of warning stickers Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Piemanlarger Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 i like the DB livery on the 70! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Nice idea about trying a split headcode Mike - will have to give it a try. as you say, the body between the cabs is very much a scaled down US body design, just substitute the multitude of US warning labels with British HSE ones Yeah I think the DB livery looks quite good Simon, though I doubt they'll get any, more likely looking to a European manufacturer if they do need more stock. Off to play some more with Photoshop later cheers jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Class 58 MkII definately suits the 70. I think that such an industrial design needs a functional paint job. Best leave flowing curves and soft fonts to the passenger TOCs. Can't wait to see more of your handy work Jo. Cheers, Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I can only agree on it looking better in railfreight grey...... could not look worse, tho as long as it does the job its bought for! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Burkitt Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I really like those photoshopped liveries you're doing Jo, especially the red stripe and triple gery railfreight versions. It seems a class 70 looks vastly better in pretty much anything other than the messy new swirly version of Freightliner livery. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 19, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2009 Great pics. So what does one of these beasts really sound like (the Utube clips are mostly rail noise)? Ta. Class 69 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 excellent work Jo they really suit the grey livery. yet to see a decent roof shot, on the video clip the fans look really large Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Jo, Would you do the Cl.70 in two tone green with a small yellow warning panel and red bufferbeam please? These livery examples illustrate how the curvy bits below the cabs just don't work on the prototype. It looks so much better without these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted November 21, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2009 Jo, Would you do the Cl.70 in two tone green with a small yellow warning panel and red bufferbeam please? These livery examples illustrate how the curvy bits below the cabs just don't work on the prototype. It looks so much better without these. Yep ! I agree with you on that one The grey is very fitting for the loco. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Been playing while watching tv tonight. Managed to do kill two birds with one stone with the green and headcode panels. It's amazing how even adding the old Freightliner logo to the new livery makes it look better! Off now for an early night before an early start for Warley tomorrow cheers jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Many thanks Jo. I can't fathom out the reasoning behind all the "jazzy" liveries we see nowadays. No sense of quality in any of them, except that used by the late GNER. The Cl.70, as someone remarked earlier, needs strong horizontal lines to complement the shape of the machine. Too many fussy curves just don't work..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rickard Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Many thanks Jo. I can't fathom out the reasoning behind all the "jazzy" liveries we see nowadays. No sense of quality in any of them, except that used by the late GNER. The Cl.70, as someone remarked earlier, needs strong horizontal lines to complement the shape of the machine. Too many fussy curves just don't work..... Ah yes, but you can just bet the 'swirlies' were cooked up by some designer because it's 'dynamic' and 'flowing'. Or some BS like that. They look much nicer in all the other liveries IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Freightliner were having a revised branding exercise anyway, the new Cl 70's are just the first to be seen in it. The new font is now right across their web site. I agree, it is a bit rubbish. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shedmaster Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 No problem with the idea of them having a re-branding excercise......it happens BUT, why not design the NEW livery specifically to suit the NEW loco, as they very cleverly did with the Class 60 ? Surely the guys who pay these livery designing twits their wages can see through their BS ? It's just like the whole 'Its got opening cab doors and working lights so it must be good' argument all over again !!!! As previously mentioned, there is simply no communication of 'quality' in liveries now except for the GNER and EWS of recent years......even with EWS they had a slogan to support their marketing, something about 'doubling railfreight in five years and having nothing left in ten'............if I remember correctly ????????? Dave p.s the new 70's look great in everything BUT 'Freightliner', as shown by the excellent photoshoppers on here !!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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