BernardTPM Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not as long as it would then take to smooth it all! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Stubby47, on 10 Feb 2014 - 23:43, said:I wonder how long it would take, not to mention how much it would cost, to 3D print this in one piece... The supports would take more material than the roof structure, and look like a fakir's bed of nailsCould a 3D printer bed accommodate a 2200mm x 850mm x 350mm build ?I know the cost of the styrene used in this build is well over £400It would take a lot less time to print, than the build time to date Edited February 10, 2014 by Ron Heggs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJChurchward Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I wonder how long it would take, not to mention how much it would cost, to 3D print this in one piece... There's plenty of potential in it for a failed print. You wouldn't want to be 90% through printing this and then have a big nondescript blob of plastic appear. It might be a good idea to use 3D printing for some sub-assemblies though. The transverse beams, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artizen Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I think the way Ron has tackled this job is the best combination of cost, time and material choice (IMO). 3D printing is constrained by maximum job size and cost. Soldering it all up in wire(?) - maybe, but you would need to be pretty good at fine intricate work. Printing sub-assemblies on the cutter and combining them - then creating the full model, way to go. I admire the ambition behind this build. I have no room and probably not the patience to do something like this, but boy, do I enjoy hanging on for the ride! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2014 Ian, I quite agree - Ron's method is by far the best option. I was just curious, wondering if 3D could be used for something this ornate. I guess it's a mindset - once you breakdown the sheer complexity of each of the buildings /bridges into smaller parts, it's just a case of repeating the chop-chop-chop, stick-stick-stick process until a masterpiece appears. Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Yes, it's definitely a great big cutting and sticking exercise - it reminds me of a time some sixty years past when I used to build models of some of the local churches out of matchsticks A modeller's greatest asset is patience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJChurchward Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Yes, it's definitely a great big cutting and sticking exercise - it reminds me of a time some sixty years past when I used to build models of some of the local churches out of matchsticks A modeller's greatest asset is patience Somehow, this post has conjured up an image of mighty cathedrals and abbeys in impossibly intricate detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Hello Ron, have you found the Cameo cutter to be any help in this build, for some of the "beams". Or do you think that the old way works better for you? Having been involved in building a large station canopy in 7mm I think that I know how hard the job is. ATB OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Hello Ron, have you found the Cameo cutter to be any help in this build, for some of the "beams". Or do you think that the old way works better for you? Having been involved in building a large station canopy in 7mm I think that I know how hard the job is. ATB OzzyO. Hi, Ozzy On this most recent roof section the approx. saving in time is about a week. That is only using the cutter to produce 51 transverse beams. In total there are 255 transverse beams, so if the cutter had been available at the beginning of the build, I could have saved about 5 weeks work. The 18 main span beams could also have been produced in 4 sections of 3 layers each, saving a great deal of time A task for the future is to try and re-design the cross-bracings on the remainder (3.5m still to go and this the section in the garden) of the Castlefield Viaduct, to enable the cutter to be used to speed up the construction a little Cheers Ron PS. A test on a styrene build for use in the garden resulted in complete shattering due to enbrittling - it was not even in sunlight - UV ? Definitely going to need a suitable coating, if one is available Edited February 11, 2014 by Ron Heggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Ron PS. A test on a styrene build for use in the garden resulted in complete shattering due to enbrittling - it was not even in sunlight - UV ? Definitely going to need a suitable coating, if one is available Hello Ron, if you did a test on some plasicard using different types of primer you may find out that one will have a better result on stopping the UV Etc. light. But try it with the adhesive that you use on it as well. HTH OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grafarman Posted February 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2014 fitting the braces on the underside is a bit tricky Quote of the Month...?! Not sure I would even have the eyesight to see where they went let alone glue them in exactly the right place each time!! Thanks for sharing Ron; your updates never fail to amaze me... David 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Quote of the Month...?! Not sure I would even have the eyesight to see where they went let alone glue them in exactly the right place each time!! Thanks for sharing Ron; your updates never fail to amaze me... David Hi, David The placement of the braces is quite straightforward - Each brace fits between the beam flange, the vertical beam strut and the over arch tie Just need nimble fingers and quick wipe with the solvent - I do have the benefit of wearing my modelling glasses which focus 9" to 15" - Have to be careful looking for the solvent though Cheers Ron 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Howe Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 A modeller's greatest asset is patience And, it seems, the stubbornness to shrug off a heart attack because "there's a lot left to do" Just returned to your thread after an absence of several weeks to find you've been through the mill Ron. Hope you're well on the road to recovery; it doesn't seem to have slowed you down at all! Here's to many more informative and entertaining build posts. All the best Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) And, it seems, the stubbornness to shrug off a heart attack because "there's a lot left to do" Just returned to your thread after an absence of several weeks to find you've been through the mill Ron. Hope you're well on the road to recovery; it doesn't seem to have slowed you down at all! Here's to many more informative and entertaining build posts. All the best Phil Hi, Phil Thanks for those kind words The REPAIRS are done, and I'm back at WORK (Modelling) although still slightly tired with the side effects from the pills The next week or two should see some progress on a number of fronts Cheers Ron Edited February 12, 2014 by Ron Heggs 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 A short note - the small braces are now all complete, and the roof section is available for the load test tomorrow prior to painting The load will be novel and unusual, although railway related Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJChurchward Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 A short note - the small braces are now all complete, and the roof section is available for the load test tomorrow prior to painting The load will be novel and unusual, although railway related Does this mean you are no longer allowed to drink the local canned lager? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Does this mean you are no longer allowed to drink the local canned lager? I can still drink it, but prefer the wine - no restrictions and cheaper - not the best for load testing though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ron Heggs Posted February 14, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2014 Successful test completed - Not many load tests of station roofs use locomotives Two Britannias, Two Black Fives, a Standard 9F and an A3 ... now to paint this roof section, and fix all four sections together 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9JEF Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Can we add an Awesome button please ... Excellent modelling as ever Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Absolutely amazing. Excellent modelling and engineering. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phixer64 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Simple...... Fantastic as per normal Ron, thought you was going to test the roof, with empty wine bottles..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 , thought you was going to test the roof, with empty wine bottles..... Don't collect empties - placing bottles on their sides would cause a little unstable loading Painting has been put off for today, as it is a little breezy Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Staggeringly impressive Ron. And well made in looks terms as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted February 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2014 uccessful test completed - IMG_0461.JPG IMG_0462.JPG IMG_0464.JPG Not many load tests of station roofs use locomotives Two Britannias, Two Black Fives, a Standard 9F and an A3 ... now to paint this roof section, and fix all four sections together Hi Ron The load test with locos is pretty impresive, it lacks that certain something that we have been used to when you use full cans of amber nectar. Cheers SS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) SS - That's some multiquote The test does lack a little something - BEER Edited February 15, 2014 by Ron Heggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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