RMweb Gold Popular Post Worsdell forever Posted October 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2016 Got the hopper lettered, not 100% certain it's correct but at least the number is right, it was one of the wagons later used as a refuse wagon and there was a list published by the NERA. 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 Oh, no, started another loco, I'll leave you guessing for now what it will be, it's a scratchbuilt 0-6-0 tender loco, there's no kit available (and I don't think there ever has been one). Next a question, this is an old Kirk kit for a GWR van, could anyone let me know what it is exactly and some numbers, capacity and tare weights please? Oh, and what type of brakes. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted November 23, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2016 Oh, no, started another loco, I'll leave you guessing for now what it will be, it's a scratchbuilt 0-6-0 tender loco, there's no kit available (and I don't think there ever has been one). IMGP9675-001.JPG Next a question, this is an old Kirk kit for a GWR van, could anyone let me know what it is exactly and some numbers, capacity and tare weights please? Oh, and what type of brakes. IMGP9676-001.JPG Your period Churchward ratchet (have I spelt that correctly?) brakes I would have thought Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Next a question, this is an old Kirk kit for a GWR van, could anyone let me know what it is exactly and some numbers, capacity and tare weights please? Oh, and what type of brakes. IMGP9676-001.JPG These predated the Diagram Book having been built in the 1880s. Ordinary "double-lever brakes" on one side only – they were NEVER fitted with DC brakes. They were rated to carry 8 tons when originally built with grease 'boxes, but were uprated to 10 tons when fitted with oil 'boxes in 1900s. Suitable numbers 22332, 22583, 27655, 35236, 37023, and 37291. Production ceased in 1886 when the GWR switched to iron bodied vans – the famous Iron Minks. By the way, 27655 was one of the last batch produced and had steel channel solebars in place of bulb iron but this is pretty much impossible to see in a 4mm scale model. Is this enough to be getting on with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 Brilliant, exactly what I needed, you don't know of any photos on the web do you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete55 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Oh, no, started another loco, I'll leave you guessing for now what it will be, it's a scratchbuilt 0-6-0 tender loco, there's no kit available (and I don't think there ever has been one). IMGP9675-001.JPG NER Class 398? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 NER Class 398? One day... Not quite as old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grosmont Jnc Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Oh, no, started another loco, I'll leave you guessing for now what it will be, it's a scratchbuilt 0-6-0 tender loco, there's no kit available (and I don't think there ever has been one). To continue the guessing game, how about a McDonnell Class 59?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 To continue the guessing game, how about a McDonnell Class 59?? Something Hull & Barnsley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grosmont Jnc Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Something Hull & Barnsley? NER - survived long enough to become LNER J22, but I don't think they lasted into the 1930s. I'm trying to work out whether they worked the Rosedale branch, which would be a big clue! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 To continue the guessing game, how about a McDonnell Class 59?? That's the one. 1489 to be precice,a Stephenson built one, luckily they're the ones with a straight footplate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 NER - survived long enough to become LNER J22, but I don't think they lasted into the 1930s. I'm trying to work out whether they worked the Rosedale branch, which would be a big clue! 1489 was the only one that went up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 Here it is. http://ebid.s3.amazonaws.com/upload_big/1/4/8/1338315028-598-52.jpg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grosmont Jnc Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Here it is. http://ebid.s3.amazonaws.com/upload_big/1/4/8/1338315028-598-52.jpg Interesting loco Paul. When was it based at Rosedale? Early enough to be painted green?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 23, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 Think it was there in 1918, when the middle period of the layout will be set, class 1001 - 1908. class 59 - 1918 and class J24 - 1928. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Here it is. http://ebid.s3.amazonaws.com/upload_big/1/4/8/1338315028-598-52.jpg It's interesting that with the Worsdell boiler, straight footplate and NER tender it's only the cab that betrays it as a McDonell design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ArthurK Posted November 24, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2016 That's the one. 1489 to be precice,a Stephenson built one, luckily they're the ones with a straight footplate. Paul There nearly was a kit. I was presented with a GA of the Stephenson builds.That person wanted me to produce a kit for the '59' but he wanted the curly footplate version. Neither of us being able lo locate any details of the Darlington builds the project fell by the wayside and there it remains. Good luck with the build. ArthurK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 ....it's only the cab that betrays it as a McDonnell design. I looked at that and thought it was a straight lift from his GSWR 101 / GSR J15 - a go-anywhere design that was never really bettered in Ireland despite at least two subsequent attempts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 24, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2016 I looked at that and thought it was a straight lift from his GSWR 101 / GSR J15 - a go-anywhere design that was never really bettered in Ireland despite at least two subsequent attempts. I think he just took his drawings with him, a bit like TW did from the Great Eastern a little later. McDonnell's mistake was to upset Fletcher's loyal men, oh, and design a new, bigger express passenger loco that was much less powerful than the 901s that it was meant to replace. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 24, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2016 Thanks to information supplied by Wagonman good progress has been made on the GWR van, brake gear I think is from a Parkside gunpowder van, buffers from LMS, brake lever Cambrian and the roof (not fixed down yet) from the kitchen window - no, not really, but it is a piece of an old Venetian blind. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted November 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2016 Good luck with the splasher beading. Attached pictures of the way I do it - D20 and Y9 (tank-smokebox flange, not splashers!). Take your time: the D20 ones probably took me 10 attempts to get 4 absolutely even - 30 mins each, multiplied by 4 = yikes, 20hours! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted November 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Sorry - for some reason my post has added itself twice. Edited November 25, 2016 by Daddyman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Bill Bedford does a etch for beading , various sizes/radius on the sheet. As used on here I used to flatten brass wire and then curve , the etch is much easier. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 25, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2016 I was planning on soldering on wire then filing back, but other options will be considered, I like the idea of the etch, as long as the sizes are right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted November 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2016 I was planning on soldering on wire then filing back, but other options will be considered, I like the idea of the etch, as long as the sizes are right. If you solder wire, you'll have to solder it twice. The first time you solder it, you can flatten one side, but then you'll have to unsolder it and flip it over, to flatten it again - if not it will be half-round and sit oddly proud. You cannot flatten it and then shape it into a curve as it will twist as you do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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