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The stock photo on the Hattons website shows the lack of headcodes, and it's entirely authentic - there's a great photo on Flickr of D9526 at Westbury in 1977 (that unfortunately I can't link to properly as I'm on my phone!) showing the removed headcodes.

 

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https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/masonphenix19/8072413898/in/search_QM_q_IS_d9526+blue+circle_AND_mt_IS_all_AND_w_IS_all

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Anyone know if the class 14 ever ran onto the southern on transfer freights from Acton. I haven't been able to find any

evidence but you lot on here certainly know your stuff it would be the best place to ask.

 

much obliged

 

Trailrage

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Anyone know if the class 14 ever ran onto the southern on transfer freights from Acton. I haven't been able to find any

evidence but you lot on here certainly know your stuff it would be the best place to ask.

 

much obliged

 

Trailrage

Modern Locomotives Illustrated issue 186 The class 14s - 17s has a pic of D9521 at Acton Main Line on 28/11/64 working a Paddington goods to Acton yard trip working, hope that helps you out.
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Are there any plans for a version of preserved D9537 in desert sand livery.....?

All ready done, well 1 anyway. At the recent 14s@50 event at the ELR Hatton's had a stand there selling class 14s and had a specially done D9537 in desert sand to win in a raffle prize. There was only 1 done so someone out there has a unique model and unfortunately it isn't me.
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Back to the decoder fitting issues: I received my weathered example last week and after running in on DC on the rolling road, tried to fit a decoder. I thought the Hattons small decoder would do the job but it was just too tight a fit - as per ColinK's warning earlier, don't let the decoder touch anything metal. Mine did with the squeeze when I put the body back on, so went pffft! I could try another with extra insulation around it but it was still a rather tight fit, so I think I'll have to order one of the DCC Concepts ones recommended.

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All ready done, well 1 anyway. At the recent 14s@50 event at the ELR Hatton's had a stand there selling class 14s and had a specially done D9537 in desert sand to win in a raffle prize. There was only 1 done so someone out there has a unique model and unfortunately it isn't me.

I have seen the photos on Fikr! Wondered if there were production plans ?

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I have seen the photos on Fikr! Wondered if there were production plans ?

It would be nice as it would add some variety in colour schemes to the range, other ones for Hatton's to consider would be D9521 in Rail freight, D9523 in maroon and D9539 in all over brunswick green and there's a suggestion that D9500 may get painted in all over British Railways black.
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It would be nice as it would add some variety in colour schemes to the range, other ones for Hatton's to consider would be D9521 in Rail freight, D9523 in maroon and D9539 in all over brunswick green and there's a suggestion that D9500 may get painted in all over British Railways black.

Is the D9539 'all over green' one a BR livery or 'as preserved'?

 

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Is the D9539 'all over green' one a BR livery or 'as preserved'?

 

Tony

It would be difficult to answer this question without first-hand knowledge of every locomotive. Possibly neither. A search on Google suggests D9500 entered service with wasp stripes on the bonnet, and the NCB painted these out on this particular loco in favour of stripes on the buffer beams. I think you have got to either pick a real locomotive and model it as it was at a specific time; or do what you like and accept that one day someone will tell you it is "wrong". There is a nice artists impression of an all-black one here:

http://andrewbriddonlocos.co.uk/abl2/locos/br-class-14-d9500-s/122-br-swindon-class-14-d9500.html

 

You could force the issue one way by adding a nameplate to be sure the model is in a fictional condition (perhaps 'freelance condition' is better).  I'm very happy with my Loadhaul one, and it was popular enough to sell out at Hattons.

 

- Richard.

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Not sure that these locos ever ran on BR in any livery other than two tone green with wasp stripes - but stand to be proven wrong!

 

Allegedly D9502 still carries the original Swindon paint.

 

http://preserved-diesels.co.uk/2004/9502_2.htm

 

Phil

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I agree that there's potential for further liveries on the Class 14, although whether these would sell well? I did contact a well known shop in Sheffield which specialises in DCC. On their site is a customer commissioned 14 in EWS livery, against which it quoted about £200 for supply of the model resprayed.

I followed this up with an enquiry re D9523 in maroon to be told £200 for supply of model and respray + £30 for the number etches. I'm guessing D9537 in sand would be about the same plus BR cast lion and wheel etches (£6 pair from Extreme Etches). Am not arguing with the price, its just more than I can afford, and they won't respray a customers model. It has to be bought from them too, at prices I noted somewhat above most other sources.

Beggars can't be choosers so am in the market for a decent secondhand pristine one, and will take my chances with the desert sand (I've settled on D9537s livery), a lining pen for the fiddly bits, and a ton of patience. Finding a pristine one is the problem. Weathered are still available at £75 from Hattons, but a nice new paint job with dirty windows??

Keith

Just chanced upon a thread elsewhere concerning said business, in which widely conflicting opinions are expressed concerning pricing and quality of workmanship. At least am not alone in thinking them expensive.

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Morning all, our 14 went up in a puff of smoke last night, dead as a door nail now, anybody re motored theirs and if so what motor did you use? Smells like circuitry has gone too so will have to hard wire, any advice greatly received!

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James

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Not sure that these locos ever ran on BR in any livery other than two tone green with wasp stripes - but stand to be proven wrong!Allegedly D9502 still carries the original Swindon paint.http://preserved-diesels.co.uk/2004/9502_2.htmPhil

I thought a preserved one in blue livery was used on the construction of the channel tunnel (or rail link to it).

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I thought a preserved one in blue livery was used on the construction of the channel tunnel (or rail link to it).

I think one of the two used on the construction of CTRL Section 1 had been repainted into blue and given a TOPS number. Despite having been brought up in one of their old stomping grounds during the time they were 'active', I had to wait until the construction of Section 1 to see one moving..I remember a row of them stored at Landore, where the order changed every few weeks, but I never saw one move.

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I thought a preserved one in blue livery was used on the construction of the channel tunnel (or rail link to it).

Yup - there was an awesome youtube clip of it on Youtube but cant find it now

 

But to be pedantic does CTRL/HS1 count as BR? Come to that is any part of the network BR after privatisation - except for derelict land retained by the BR Board?

 

Cheers

 

Phil

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Yup - there was an awesome youtube clip of it on Youtube but cant find it nowBut to be pedantic does CTRL/HS1 count as BR? Come to that is any part of the network BR after privatisation - except for derelict land retained by the BR Board?CheersPhil

Is it this clip Phil?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1XRbUuKrcQ

 

Rob

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in preservation class 14's have been quite colourful and a popular choice for "having fun" fictional liveries.. Including sand, maroon, blue, green (with cab side), load haul etc as well as fictional numbers.

Hang on. Do we have any evidence of these liveries? If a locomotive carried such a livery, it would be prototypical, not fictional.

 

- Richard.

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D9513 isn't fictional as its in NCB blue which is different to BR blue, D9521 was numbered 14021 not 14901 when in Rail freight livery, D9524 has also worn BR blue while numbered 14901 and 14701 in Load Haul has ( thankfully!) only existed in model form as a special limited edition from Hattons.

 

Rob

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http://www.preserved-diesels.co.uk/engines/index_14.htm

 

Lots of pictures there...

 

Highlights:

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Thanks for the link and the list. I think the maroon with small yellow panels is my favourite. The loco carries off the colours of the Railfreight scheme well, but to my eyes it would be better without the logo.

 

- Richard.

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