BoxInfo Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Hatton's website shows latest class 14's to have the wasp stripes extending above the front doors as they should and headcodes ready fitted, that should help if not wanting to take the loco to pieces unless different headcodes needed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Guys, with apologies to all because it's probably been covered already.... I need to get the headcodes installed in my 14. Can anyone tell me how to get the loco apart safely? I remember it was covered in an article in Model Rail, but can I find the article now? Can I........... I'd be very grateful if someone could help me and my fists of ham out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Guys, with apologies to all because it's probably been covered already.... I need to get the headcodes installed in my 14. Can anyone tell me how to get the loco apart safely? I remember it was covered in an article in Model Rail, but can I find the article now? Can I........... I'd be very grateful if someone could help me and my fists of ham out. See post 246 for video instruction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2014 Hi Here is a simple low cost way to deal with the extra side play in the drive cranks. 10mins, no stripping down and about £1 Cheers Mike Hello Mike, Thanks for putting your video on here. I put 2 washers each side on the jackshaft, and 2 washers each side on the leading wheelsets. One each side on the middle drivers. The loco can negotiate small radius Peco 75 electrofrogs, and runs like a dream. It seems the transverse play in the axles means that when negotiating curves, one side will loose its pickup ability, hence poor running. So impressed, I might get another.... Many thanks, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CathcartCircle Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 My 14 arrived yesterday, from Hattons, however all vids on YouTube and reviews concerning it seem to say the headcode numbers have to be fitted. Mine came with the codes installed already and no sheet of them was in the box. Do you think I have I been sold a second hand or returned one? I bought it on the basis it was new! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted May 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2014 Unless anything has changed recently they come with a sheet of head codes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 47137 Posted May 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2014 Guys with the loadhaul version, are you happy with it and does it fit in well with what ever you have it running with? Sorely tempted to get one myself as i'm a sucker for things that are different, but been told to wait until after fathers day gribble: it does say somewhere it's a ficticious livery hence why you've never seen the original! I am delighted with mine. When I ran it on the club layout, the room fell silent. A teenage member asked if it was a German loco (which seemed a fair question) and afterwards an ex-railwayman did quietly tell me it was a fictitious livery. I think it needs some nameplates, perhaps on the solebars. - Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Looks like a good fix as I could not get my to run well, though which Peco washers were used ? the R9 1/8th diameter ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CathcartCircle Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Unless anything has changed recently they come with a sheet of head codes I'll be contacting Hattons on Tuesday, if they have have sold me second hand as new, I won't be happy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted May 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2014 To be fair they may have changed things but I do recall a van I bought "new" from a reputable retailer which had Kadee couplings in the NEM pockets... explain that.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted May 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2014 I'll be contacting Hattons on Tuesday, if they have have sold me second hand as new, I won't be happy! I expect they are open on Monday if you can face a difficult conversation on a bank holiday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I purchased a class 14 from Hattons a few months ago and I'm delighted with it, headcodes were fitted at both ends and their were no spare headcode sheet enclosed in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I expect they are open on Monday if you can face a difficult conversation on a bank holiday! Going by Boxinfo's post above, the latest versions are already fitted with head codes to avoid the difficult task of dismantling to fit these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted May 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2014 If you look on their website,you will see clearly that they DO come with headcodes in place...which saves you a lot of bother,does it not ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CathcartCircle Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 No need to speak to Hattons as you've guessed, I've had a lot of feedback not only from here but from others and I'm pleased that all is ok! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CathcartCircle Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 If you look on their website,you will see clearly that they DO come with headcodes in place...which saves you a lot of bother,does it not ? Just because a picture shows headcodes doesn't necessarily mean that the item would come like that! Now if the blurb said " comes with headcode numbers fitted" I wouldn't have been in doubt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted May 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Just because a picture shows headcodes doesn't necessarily mean that the item would come like that! Now if the blurb said " comes with headcode numbers fitted" I wouldn't have been in doubt!I think you will find that Hattons images are "what you see is what you get"......i.e what is in the box.Latest Heljan releases now come with much more detail already in place.Look at post 485....October 2011 for confirmation, Edited May 26, 2014 by Ian Hargrave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2014 Looks like a good fix as I could not get my to run well, though which Peco washers were used ? the R9 1/8th diameter ones? Hi Paul, Have a look at post 488 above. I used the same washers as Mike, only I used more. You can experiment, to see what suits you. Best of all, it only cost me about 2 quid! Regards, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Hi guys, still running well, using the model fixings washers. Funny enough its been out on the test track today taking part in another video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9mNxUGzBZc Love my 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) I am just about to order a class 14, which will need to be digitized, I believe that the decoder space is limited can anyone recommend a decoder please>? Edited July 24, 2014 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted July 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hi, yes the space is small and the decoder needs to be well insulated so it doesn't touch anything metal and go bang. I found it quite difficult to fit a decoder and managed to pull one of the wires out of the chassis. I suspect it was from the pick ups as the loco no longer worked. Then I could not find a way of repairing it. Oops. So you might want to consider getting one from a retailer who will fit the chip for you. I've now got a blue class 14 fitted with DCC sound by Olivia's Trains in Sheffield. They weathered it for me too. It looks good and sounds good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Thanks for the info, so I guess a small decoder is required! I have no qualms about fitting decoders I have been doing it since '97! I am actually doing this for a friend who has just bought one at Hattons bargain price and I was thinking of buying one as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hi Steve, I used a Gaugemaster DCC22 back in about December 2011 but as the socket was so chunky, I cut that off and replaced it with a slimline socket and all was good. I'm sure there must be better, smaller & cheaper options now though. First job to tackle was to remove the cab steps as they are easily broken, plenty of other instruction online or I can PM you then set I wrote as part of a P4 conversion. Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted July 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 25, 2014 I followed the Bromsgrove models guide and a TS2SAX decoder from DCC concepts http://www.bromsgrovemodels.co.uk/helcl14dccinstr.htm Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Afternoon all - has anyone else bought the Blue Circle liveried loco ? I received mine yesterday minus any headcodes. I have been told by Hattons that as this was a private loco there would be no headcodes but it does look decidedly daft without them. Has anyone else experienced the same ? Thanks Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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