ianwales Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Hi all Given that the LMS used to use the Settle to Carlisle line as a test route is there any record of the Garrats visiting the line Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hi all Given that the LMS used to use the Settle to Carlisle line as a test route is there any record of the Garrats visiting the line Ian Hello Ian, all the published test reports in the book on the Garratts by Essery and Toms, are between Toton and Brent. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 IIRC. they did get to the following places that were out of the normal. York, Peterborough and Bescot or was it Saltleigh. Just maybe to Manchester (Gorton?). Don't forget Crewe. OzzyO. For Peterborough - read Whittlesey (Whittlesea). During the war, their trains were extended to run to Whittlesey to ease congestion in the PBO yards. So they did actually get onto GE metals! Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2013 IIRC. they did get to the following places that were out of the normal. York, Peterborough and Bescot or was it Saltleigh. Just maybe to Manchester (Gorton?). Don't forget Crewe. OzzyO. I understand that York wasn't entirely 'out of the normal' for them Ozzy as at one time there was a regular Garratt turn to/from York. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 The only colour photo of the LMS Garratt that I have available was taken at Copmanthorpe, just South of York, working the empties back to Desborough from Skinningrove. (colour Rail LM90) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyndonsdad1 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 As a Desborough lad I used to see them daily on the Midland main line along with 8F's on the iron ore trains from the Sheepbridge quarries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 In their final years they ventured as far as Temple Mills with coal trains to the large gas works by Lea Bridge. I'm told somebody has a photo but I must admit I've never seen one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 In their final years they ventured as far as Temple Mills with coal trains to the large gas works by Lea Bridge. I'm told somebody has a photo but I must admit I've never seen one. What route did they take to get there - was it it via Cambridge? Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Lovely shot on the Hope Valley line by Bill Verden Anderson if that helps anyone's ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted March 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20, 2013 What route did they take to get there - was it it via Cambridge? Stewart Or via the Tottenham & Hampstead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted March 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2013 Plenty of time to do your research chaps, Hattons report that they are still undergoing tests and will not be here before June/July Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Plenty of time to do your research chaps, Hattons report that they are still undergoing tests and will not be here before June/July Oh dear, I can see that date becoming November-December just in time for the OMG where's me credit card season.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Oh dear, I can see that date becoming November-December just in time for the OMG where's me credit card season.... I think you're probably nearer the mark.......from what I've seen Larry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Well, at least it shows that they want to get it right rather than release a half-baked product. The delays are disappointing, obviously, but I'd prefer waiting a bit longer to having a poorly-made model. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Curious to know how far North these engines went. I have a picture of one, 47976 at a location just north of Whatstandwell by the Cromford Canal in the book 'Main Lines in the Peak District', by C.P. Nicholson. Its heading south light engine; my guess is that it maybe worked to the Chinley/Gowhole/New Mills area. My spotter buddies tell me that they did not get as far as Manchester on the old Midland route. I always thought that they were usually at Toton and south of there on coal drags to the home counties, unless someone out there has seen then in the North West. Any sightings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbeagleowner Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 They seemed to work into Rowsley on and off so a garratt at whastandwell isn't strange. They didn't go up the bank though, mainly because of the braking requirements meant that they couldn't use the power they have. I think that because of that they had something like the same load limit as a 4F...I think! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garry field Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Hi all , I am from Tasmania and grew up in Burnie where the EbR Emu bay Railroad had several of these monsters running to the west coast mines , the ground shook and trembled as they approached , still nearly a mile away , still remember the wheels slipping as they climbed the hill leaving Burnie , the experience is still etched in my mind , yes I want one please . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garry field Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Hi Bertiedog , how does Bachmann power the 3 car spectrum shay , its kind of the same thing isn't it , sorry for my ignorance I am only a newcomer . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clecklewyke Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I understand that York wasn't entirely 'out of the normal' for them Ozzy as at one time there was a regular Garratt turn to/from York. I believe that there was also a regular turn to Gormley Junction near Bradford North Western, although the Kitmaster type was used on this, rather then the Heljan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted April 13, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2013 ..... the Kitmaster type was used on this, rather then the Heljan. I don't understand - Kitmaster produced the rotating bunker type; Heljan are to produce both. .... or am I missing your point entirely? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Just received a email from Hattons that the heavily weathered 47996 is due in Friday...... 1st November. Very precise but still a fair way off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Just received a email from Hattons that the heavily weathered 47996 is due in Friday...... 1st November. Very precise but still a fair way off. Yes seems to be running a little late! However I suppose I can spend the saved up cash on sonething else and save up again!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clecklewyke Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 .... or am I missing your point entirely? Afraid so. Did you see the smiley? I think we worry too much about where particular engines ran. It would only take a stroke of a controller's pen to change the duty or allocation of any engine. We mostly have fictional layouts, so I think we can use our imagination to create appropriate loco allocations and duties for them. My layout is called Bradford North Western and I want to run my Kitmaster B-G to run on it - not for any reason other than I like Beyer Garratts and I happen to have one I can convert to P4. My fiction is that it regularly ran to my fictional station - and I'm far to much of a Yorkshireman to buy the Heljan version! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Just received a email from Hattons that the heavily weathered 47996 is due in Friday...... 1st November. Very precise but still a fair way off. My email says "on or after 1st November", not all that precise! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted April 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2013 I have had the same 'on or after' mail. I have had to buy an O1 to haul those heavy coal trains on my layout, looks like I may have to get another heavy hauler to compliment the O1 while I await the BG.Hmmmmmm what to choose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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