MarkSG Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Then realise why you don't do this anymore..... ..as you spend several hours cursing at yourself while you de-fluff the mechanisms. Even as a child, I knew enough to put a sheet down first, for precisely that reason! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Try that and you will be spending on getting the tumble dryer serviced, just in case that's where the oil spots on her best sheet came from. Or, get a test set up built in the garage with the money saved from not having to get the tumble dryer serviced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
84A Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Now we have passed into November (and firmly into modelling season), are there any updates on the Garratt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hattons may possibly know something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Emkail from HATTONS Beyer-Garratts due 'early in the new year' they will post more specific info when they can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
84A Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Yes, just received the same message. Its a bit longer to wait I guess, but i'd prefer them to take longer over it than rush it out and risk spoiling it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve45 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Just taken some of the sting out of the disappointment by pre-ordering L & Y 1008. I had held back as I was expecting to have to pay for the Garratt before Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 At least it gives me a bit more time to get the railway room usable, and a test track in place, before it arrives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted November 7, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2013 Just taken some of the sting out of the disappointment by pre-ordering L & Y 1008. I had held back as I was expecting to have to pay for the Garratt before Christmas An alternative you won't regret,I'm sure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy P Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Just taken some of the sting out of the disappointment by pre-ordering L & Y 1008. I had held back as I was expecting to have to pay for the Garratt before Christmas Now that was a good idea! I just need to find a way of expressing to her my disappointment that the black LMS twins and Cock o' the north won't be under the Christmas tree either!. What else can I have instead? There's probably a good reason to do my window shopping at 1 am. RP Edited November 8, 2013 by Roy P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted November 13, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2013 I know how people feel, I had to console myself with the news that the Garratt had been put back to early next year by purchasing 10000 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 What will you do with ten thousand Beyer Garratts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suddaby Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Just think how many coal wagons he needs to go behind 10,000 Garratts! Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve45 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Had a look at the pre production model on the Heljan stand at Warley and a few points worried me. Firstly the rotating bunker appears to be too low a pitch. If you look at side on photos in LMS & LNER Garretts by Essery and Toms the bunker is clearly much higher than the cab roof - this is significant as it adds a lot to the appearance of 'bulk' to the prototype.The bunker top is in line with the roof on the model. Secondly I think the valve gear and particularly the slide rods appear 'heavy' on the model, this may be because they are bright metal at the moment, this maybe helped by the weathering. Thirdly other is a moulding line all down the firebox, boiler and smoke box which is in line with the corner of the firebox, so this will be very visible from normal viewing angles. Has anyone else noticed this or have any comments now it has been seen at a major venue or am I being overly critical? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Had a look at the pre production model on the Heljan stand at Warley and a few points worried me. Firstly the rotating bunker appears to be too low a pitch. If you look at side on photos in LMS & LNER Garretts by Essery and Toms the bunker is clearly much higher than the cab roof - this is significant as it adds a lot to the appearance of 'bulk' to the prototype.The bunker top is in line with the roof on the model. Secondly I think the valve gear and particularly the slide rods appear 'heavy' on the model, this may be because they are bright metal at the moment, this maybe helped by the weathering. Thirdly other is a moulding line all down the firebox, boiler and smoke box which is in line with the corner of the firebox, so this will be very visible from normal viewing angles. Has anyone else noticed this or have any comments now it has been seen at a major venue or am I being overly critical? These are legitimate concerns, especially the mold lines. There should not be any mold lines on an RTR model. We cannot get rid of them once the model is painted so the manufacturer should take the time to remove them before the model is painted even if this means charging a bit more. Does anybody have some recent photos of the display model so that we can check the above complaints ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 From Hattons Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=622189954468107&set=a.622189744468128.1073741826.217917844895322&type=3&theater The real one http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/LMS_Garratt_7993_Hasland.jpg Doesn't look that bad to me, bearing in mind it might have to tuck under the cab on our train set curves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted November 25, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2013 .......... see also Hornby Magazine's Facebook page photograph added today. https://www.facebook.com/hornbymagazine John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted November 25, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2013 I was struck by how small the motors looked. I thought they would be more at home in an N gauge model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbeagleowner Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Interesting comments above Steve45. Excuse my ignorance as I wasn't at Warley but were there a number of Garratts there? If so did they all have the mould lines on? I seem to remember from somewhere hearing that these were samples that had been painted by hand so maybe that could explain it...I hope so. I see what you mean about the pitch if the bunker. After you mentioned it I think It is noticeable if you're looking for it. I hadn't noticed it before. I think from the photos I've seen of the model and I don't thin that would make me cancel my order (or change it for a standard bunker type) What I wasn't so keen on in the pics of the br one on Topley Dale was the size of the numbers - compared to the photos in the Irwell press book they looked rather too large. Might be my eyes are going though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve45 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 They were indeed samples, so as you say maybe that explains it. I hope we get some further images and information on the production models prior to release / dispatch as £199 is a fair bit of cash to lay out only to be disappointed with the model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted December 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2013 Looking at the photo of the real thing and the model I don't believe that there is a huge difference between the pitch of the bunker, even if there is I don't think it will be an issue....will it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve45 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Just referred to Essery and Toms book, Cab is 12 feet 7 13/32 inches high, rotating bunker is 13 feet 2 7/16, just under 2 mm in 4 mm scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbeagleowner Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I emailed hattons today. They got back to me very quickly. They said the bunker is oart of the moulding and will be as on the pre prod models. The numbers might not be the same size on the factory models but they won't know until the first ones appear. Hope that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Has anybody any news on the Heljan Beyer Garratts ? It has gone very quite, I've had a look on the Heljan website but have been unable to find anything at all, it's very frustrating as I've been so looking forward to it's release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 The Hattons website is now giving expected dates of March and May, depending on the livery and finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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