RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 22, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2010 According to brush-loco-gen, there's approximately 20 of them coming back into traffic because of DBS sheds going to Poland and the upcoming RHTT season. 60074 is currently in Scotland on crew refresher courses. Why would this be happening unless there's the possibility of more 60's north of the border? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 838rapid Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 60011 passed me tonight at Brockleby sounded really good,was hauling a mixture of TEA wagons towards Immingham. Made a good change to the constant Ying Ying's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkins77 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 According to brush-loco-gen, there's approximately 20 of them coming back into traffic because of DBS sheds going to Poland and the upcoming RHTT season. 60074 is currently in Scotland on crew refresher courses. Why would this be happening unless there's the possibility of more 60's north of the border? Cheers, Mick It could always be to rub DRS's noses in the fact that they won't ever get them lol. Yes i know Carlisle isn't in Scotland but if it means that there will be more running up that way it means they could be running past the DRS depot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 60074 is currently in Scotland on crew refresher courses. Why would this be happening unless there's the possibility of more 60's north of the border? It's on GSW road learning for a couple of ex-Tyne Yard drivers now based at Carlisle, not crew traction refreshing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 23, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2010 It could always be to rub DRS's noses in the fact that they won't ever get them lol. Yes i know Carlisle isn't in Scotland but if it means that there will be more running up that way it means they could be running past the DRS depot. It's not a game, it's a business Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 It's not a game, it's a business More to the point though, why on earth would DRS want to buy / obtain / lease some class 60s which would need upwards of a quarter of a million quid spent on overhauls before driver training and certification as well as possible company certification on a new traction - all for no apparent traffic flow which would need class 60s instead of anything else in KM's extensive portfolio. The class 60s have been / are being systematically run into the ground and need expensive overhauls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 More to the point though, why on earth would DRS want to buy / obtain / lease some class 60s which would need upwards of a quarter of a million quid spent on overhauls before driver training and certification as well as possible company certification on a new traction - all for no apparent traffic flow which would need class 60s instead of anything else in KM's extensive portfolio. The class 60s have been / are being systematically run into the ground and need expensive overhauls. Surely DRS would want locos that are able to run on class 4 trains which rules out the 60's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ramrig Posted June 23, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2010 40's traction motor repair must have been very simple. taken at 14.30 today. Where was this shot taken? Looks like a giant funfair in the background Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningduck Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I'm 99% certain its Star City, near Tame Bridge Parkway station, just south of Bescot yard in Birmingham. Behind the 60 is Costco (not a funfair) and Star City (almost a funfair clicky ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 23, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2010 Where was this shot taken? Looks like a giant funfair in the background It looks like a large shopping centre. It is not Lakeside (Thurrock) and I don't think it is Bluewater. The two bowstring girder bridges in the background might give a clue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 23, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2010 It's on GSW road learning for a couple of ex-Tyne Yard drivers now based at Carlisle, not crew traction refreshing. It seems odd that a "supposedly" expensive and unreliable 60 was moved north for this humble task. Recent 60 activity has pretty much confined them to a minimal number of heavy haul duties for which DBS appear to begrudgingly keep a few 60's active for. Surely a shed would have been a more sensible option? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 It seems odd that a "supposedly" expensive and unreliable 60 was moved north for this humble task. Recent 60 activity has pretty much confined them to a minimal number of heavy haul duties for which DBS appear to begrudgingly keep a few 60's active for. Surely a shed would have been a more sensible option? Cheers, Mick Assuming that a 66 can be made available... Seeing how 60074 cannot haul anything except itself then I suppose there is some sense in using it for RL duties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Where was this shot taken? Looks like a giant funfair in the background It is Star City in Nechells, Birmingham, which does have a funfair in the car park. The two "girders" at the rear of the shot are in fact the Star City building. The Vauxhall garage is on teh right, and the entrance to the gas towers are to the left. The road in the background is the A47 which runs along side the now mothballed Washwood Heath yard. Its an interesting view, and I guess its taken from the RMC depot or the sleeper loading gantry! Looking towards the gas towers: http://bigtsrailimages.fotopic.net/p57577065.html This is a view looking towards Brum with the road on the right: http://bigtsrailimages.fotopic.net/p64261755.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic_monkey09 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 DB Schenker could possibly raise money by selling off the class 60's or maybe even just a few to a rolling stock comany like angel trains for example, then use the money to lease back the ones they require and overhaul/re-engine them. Just an idea, not sure if it would work or not though Although it seems like a possible option whilst the majority of the class are still in one piece albeit just a bit internally worn out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted July 12, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2010 DB Schenker could possibly raise money by selling off the class 60's or maybe even just a few to a rolling stock comany like angel trains for example, then use the money to lease back the ones they require and overhaul/re-engine them. Just an idea, not sure if it would work or not though Although it seems like a possible option whilst the majority of the class are still in one piece albeit just a bit internally worn out. What makes you think Angel trains (or any other ROSCo) would want to buy 60s ? - it makes absolutely no sense for them to take a run down, non standard loco which, in its present state, is unreliable and would require investment to get it back on track - enthusiasts glasses ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcazar Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 One through Scunny around 12.30 today, on empty tanks, heading towards Immingham. Couldn't see the number as I was driving over a road bridge, and got but a brief glimpse, but the livery LOOKED like 60040. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 14, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14, 2010 60071 has replaced 60074 on the Carlisle-Ayrshire route learners (?). Still seems strange to shift a 60 northwards for such a mundane duty. 60074 seemed to be in decent health, being entrusted to this working to go southwards. 60074 60040 turned up again on the 6M32/6E32 Lindsey-Preston bitumen. 2nd time in a couple of months or so. So there's life in the old tugs yet....... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 One through Scunny around 12.30 today, on empty tanks, heading towards Immingham. Couldn't see the number as I was driving over a road bridge, and got but a brief glimpse, but the livery LOOKED like 60040. There were 3 60s through Scunthorpe yesterday afternoon: 60040 on 6E32 Preston - Lindsey empty bitumen 60009 on 6D49 Ferrybridge - Lindsey empty heavy fuel oil 60011 on 6D80 Neville Hill - Lindsey empty traction fuel Add to that 60010 some time later on the return Jarrow tanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9-70 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Add to that 60010 some time later on the return Jarrow tanks. 60 010 on the tanks passing Colton 15-07-2010 @ 19:00pm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcazar Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 There were 3 60s through Scunthorpe yesterday afternoon: 60040 on 6E32 Preston - Lindsey empty bitumen 60009 on 6D49 Ferrybridge - Lindsey empty heavy fuel oil 60011 on 6D80 Neville Hill - Lindsey empty traction fuel Add to that 60010 some time later on the return Jarrow tanks. Are you FROM round there, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9-70 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 60 010 on the tanks again tonight passing Colton approx 18:50pm K9-70 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic_monkey09 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 A couple of nights ago i saw 60013 on the Murco's come bombing through Bridgend heading towards Margam shortly followed by 60074 coming in the opposite direction dead-in-tow behind a 66 and a small rake of MEA wagons missed a shot of 60013 completely as is was running early and took me by suprise but i managed to get footage of 60074 being hauled away from Margam see link B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbringer Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 There was a blue (mainline?) tug (too far away for me to see the number) in the oil depot (Westerleigh???) alongside the M4 this evening. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted July 23, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2010 Are you FROM round there, then? 40044 is not from round there but he does have more knowledge than some Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted July 23, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2010 There was a blue (mainline?) tug (too far away for me to see the number) in the oil depot (Westerleigh???) alongside the M4 this evening. Pete 60011 and yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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