RMweb Gold PhilH Posted October 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2013 Any update on the spec for this model? With the transfer to Bachmann, as we going to lose the heavy tungsten chassis in favour of cheapy mazak? Similarly will the All-wheen direct drive to the motor survive? Experience with the BWT really shows the enhanced stability of running with direct drive rather than relying on (necessarily slack) coupling rods. I too would like a few answers. Same spec? I ordered one expecting quite a lot for my money tbh, not quite so sure now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted October 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2013 Model Rail have stated both directly from Ben Jones in conversation and their most recent advert and announcement about the manufacturer switch that the specification would remain the same. I see no reason to doubt this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted October 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thanks Muz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted October 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2013 Any update on the spec for this model? With the transfer to Bachmann, as we going to lose the heavy tungsten chassis in favour of cheapy mazak? Similarly will the All-wheen direct drive to the motor survive? Experience with the BWT really shows the enhanced stability of running with direct drive rather than relying on (necessarily slack) coupling rods. I would add that at no time did the original advertised specification state the chassis material type or all gear drive. Just because this was on the BWT via a unconnected commission it has never meant the Model Rail commission would be the same style especially as one is an 0-6-0t and one is 2-4-0t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 No it didn't specify gear drive (although the Dapol CADs on the MR Facebook page clearly showed direct drive to the three axles), it DID however specify the chassis material: Quote from USA Tank Model Rail Offers Page: "Heavy tungsten chassis for reliable performance and outstanding haulage power" See for example: http://www.modelrailoffers.co.uk/product/37892/MR101_MR_Bachmann_USA_060T_Steam_Locomotive_number_4326 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Seems an unnecessary expense tbh. Bach's current wiper chassis 0-6-0T's are good to move over sixty SWB wagons on level track, picking up one at a time, thanks to a construction which has them well packed with mazak ballast. A sprung axle aids pick up reliability. I cannot imagine that this performance would disappoint if replicated in this model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 But the USA tank had shallow bar frames with the springs above and behind the frames. Slapping a standard over-thick british outline keeper plate underneath to hold the pickups isn't going to enhance the model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Bachmann has now completed the initial CAD drawings for the Model Rail SR 'USA' 0-6-0T. Sample drawings appear in the current issue (MR201) of the magazine. A number of detail amendments are being made but the CADs do show just how good this model is going to be. Pre-orders for all the proposed versions in the first batch have now reached very high levels and anyone wishing to place an order is advised to do so soon in order to avoid disappointment. See ads in magazine and on website. CHRIS LEIGH 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted October 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2014 Well I like what I see and have decided to pre-order a green late crest example. Looking forward to receiving it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Two more versions of the USA 0-6-0T will be announced at Warley and available to pre-order from that date. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyA Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 A Longmoor version perhaps???? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Any chance of MR soliciting RMWeb feedback by posting a few Cads? All very well publishing in a magazine but a greater variety and larger, more inspectable images can be made available online. Also is there an updated specification for the model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janner Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Any chance of MR soliciting RMWeb feedback by posting a few Cads? All very well publishing in a magazine but a greater variety and larger, more inspectable images can be made available online. Also is there an updated specification for the model? Seems unlikely. Don't forget RMWeb is now owned by the publishers of a competing magazine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Of course... I'd forgotton that. One of the costs of the merger. How about on the Model Rail Offers web page then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted October 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2014 I know the HO version from one of the continental manufacturers is a lot more expensive, but having seen one running and seen the detail and felt the weight, the MR version will have to be mighty good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Looks like someone is getting on the bandwagon: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MODEL-RAIL-BR-EX-USA-DOCK-TANK-30072-WEATHERED-DCC-READY/381139886569?_trksid=p2047675.c100013.m1986&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107105714%26meid%3Df5ab7a6501934701970ba293356827e0%26pid%3D100013%26rk%3D7%26rkt%3D29%26sd%3D291341907522 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 So despite being listed on Ebay as 'OO', this is in fact HO? I can see a purchaser being a little disappointed when it turns up, the difference in size is apparent even in the pix. I'll stick with my pre-order thanks! Cheers from Oz, Peter C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 HO Hornby Rivarossi USATC 0-6-0 tanks are already available in US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 It's also got loads of detail differences from the SR/BR examples - cab windows and bunker for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I just noticed this so sent the seller the following question: Given that Model Rail hasn't released the model as it hasn't yet been manufactured, how can this be sold and described as a Model Rail locomotive? Is this not the HO scale (not OO scale) Hornby Rivarossi USATC 0-6-0? IF so, it is not the same scale and will be smaller than other OO gauge locomotives. I had the following reply: "OH WELL" Is there any way to report this to ebay? I know if I bid on this and it arrived, I'd be annoyed as it would be knowingly selling the item with an incorrect description. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Unfortunately the only way to do it would be to buy it then raise a claim with Ebay for goods not being as described. Hopefully the ultimate buyer will do that, as listing it as a yet to be released model when it is not is quite out or order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2015 You'd think that Model Rail could raise an issue as its a misrepresentation of their product, if it was so inclined to do so. But then again we are talking about EBay... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I asked if the seller would amend the listing, and just had this: "NO I WILL LET THE WINNING BIDDER JUDGE WHETHER THEY ARE HAPPY WITH THE ITEM" *sigh* Thanks for the info, shame there's nothing that can be done. Given I have a real Model Rail USA Tank on order, I won't be worrying too much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I've just reported it to eBay under their policy for fake items. I doubt if anything will happen, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 You'd think that Model Rail could raise an issue as its a misrepresentation of their product, if it was so inclined to do so. But then again we are talking about EBay... I have contacted the advertiser and requested that this advertisement is taken down with immediate effect. Unfortunately, with a magazine to produce and a small staff it is quite impossible for us to monitor Ebay and RMweb continuously. Much better if someone sees something like this that they contact us direct, rather than posting on RMweb where it maybe a long time before we pick up on the problem. CHRIS LEIGH 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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