hornbyandbf3fan Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 The building colour looks fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 John, With my MRICS hat on I can tell you that there are essentially two types of cladding that will be relevant in your era; profiled asbestos sheet which would only come in a concrete grey colour but did weather to a much darker grey (as you have caught) and profiled steel sheet. Nearly all steel sheet came with nearly square ribs (they were slightly hexagonal) and it did not - at this point - come in a rounded curve section. Until comparatively recently there were a relatively limited number of colours that the steel came coated in and these can be found here (but only the standard colours in this range - the rest of the colours are more modern) - it is true that the cladding can be over-painted but this is not generally done until it is quite old and it is needed as a remedial treatment because it uses a lot of paint and costs a lot of money! The most commonly used type of coating suffered badly from fading; so nearly all of the colours faded and whitened over time from the affects of the sun and weather. Indeed, it is by no means uncommon to see the original much darker colour below where a sign has been removed - surrounded by a faded colour everywhere else. Maybe 60% of the buildings that were built in the 1970's used Vandyke Brown. This starts as a Bourneville chocolate colour but quickly fades through a Galaxy Chocolate colour and then ends up like a chocolate that has sat in the sun too long and has the white fat deposit on the outside! Hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 Mark, Many thanks for that, very interesting, I'll get the airbrush out again then John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 I find myself with a bit of a dilemma... On the left hand side of the layout, the tracks disappear in to what will be the fiddle yard and, whilst the left hand shed hides most of this exit, if you view the layout from the right hand end, the exit for the rearmost track is all to obvious: So I'm thinking of ways to disguise it. My first thought would be a bridge but this would have to be on a very acute angle to avoid the shed on the left but this would allow me to put a bridge support between the middle and rearmost tracks as in the pic below: My other thought is to have the support there but have no bridge to make it appear as though there was a bridge that has been demolished but I'm not sure on that one, I just can't think of any other excuse to have a solid brick wall between 2 tracks... Any suggestions are appreciated... John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 How about disguising the exit with a gantry of pipes, the kind of thing seen around industrial environments? It would be something a bit different to the usual overbridge which can sometimes look a little too contrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Cheers Adrian, that's what I'm going to go for. Work continues on the building across the rear of the layout: John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twright Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Excellent layout and buildings. They look very realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted November 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2013 I think a pipe bridge on some sort of girder support would work well, but how about some sort of structure in the foreground, where those bushes are as well? It might not hide the exit, but might distract the eye of the viewer away from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Made some progress over the last couple of days - when the track was laid, I sprayed the rust on the rails and over the sleepers as well thinking it would be a simple job to scrape it back off. It turned in to the most mind numbing job ever (even more so than the ballasting) but I finally got it completed on New Years day. I've started adding some more weeds and the next job is to weather the ballast. A view that no one will ever get to see from the entrance to the left hand fiddle yard: Overall view of the right hand end: And a video of my sound equipped Class 20: John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 This layout is really starting to look the business, loving the atmosphere and thr way the scenics are settling in. Cav Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pix Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Great video John... layout is looking good like the drain pipes, keep up the good work Jez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Layouts looking great keep it up David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Superb work John, loving the buildings. Such a lovely layout. Great video, your chopper sounds the business! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted January 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2014 Looking great John! Just my sort of thing - simple, yet very effective and atmospheric! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom82 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Excellent work John, the way you have captured the whole scene is top-notch almost as if your there in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Thanks again for the comments. As you'll know from earlier posts, I have been wondering how to help to disguise the fiddle yard entrance at the left hand of the layout and I've come up with a solution in the form of a cable bridge inspired by a photo I found recently of the rear of the Central Station in Newcastle which had a similar structure carrying cables over the lines. So, a couple of hours work with some styrene strip has produced this: John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 It's looking really nice John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I find myself with a bit of a dilemma... On the left hand side of the layout, the tracks disappear in to what will be the fiddle yard and, whilst the left hand shed hides most of this exit, if you view the layout from the right hand end, the exit for the rearmost track is all to obvious: So I'm thinking of ways to disguise it. My first thought would be a bridge but this would have to be on a very acute angle to avoid the shed on the left but this would allow me to put a bridge support between the middle and rearmost tracks as in the pic below: My other thought is to have the support there but have no bridge to make it appear as though there was a bridge that has been demolished but I'm not sure on that one, I just can't think of any other excuse to have a solid brick wall between 2 tracks... Any suggestions are appreciated... John Hi John, maybe try a pipe across as I have done on Fiddlers Yard. Hope this is of some help. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hi John, I've just had a quick flick through from the start, the change of board size was the right move and the pics are really good, I especially like the 08 that Cav did and the Crane. Good stuff and more pics please. All the best. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Looking good john keep it up David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 The Works has gained what will be it's one and only signal: And from this view you can see I've used Wills concrete trunking for the same job that the real stuff is used for, carrying the wires for the signal. I know that the trunking is a little overscale but weathered and 'buried' in the grass it look OK to me. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2014 This is a lovely looking and cleverly-executed layout - what's it's overall size, please John? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 This is a lovely looking and cleverly-executed layout - what's it's overall size, please John? It's 1200mm * 500mm. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Thats 4 ft by 20 inches i guess? I did think it looked bigger, which is always a complimnet Yes and thanks John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Cheers Mickey - that's exactly why I built it in the first place, to prove to myself that I could 'do' P4 before moving on to something larger - the locos are all drop in wheel conversions as are most of the wagons although I do have 3 fully sprung wagons I bought on eBay but, on such a small layout, it is impossible to tell which ones they are. Of course, I could have just laid and wired the track and called it a test track and it would have been finished long before now John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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