CameronL Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) I'm just listening to Stacey Dooley on Radio 2. She seems to have a real problem with some pronunciation. She read a dedication from someone who was "Travellin' up Norf." Obviously "g" at the end of a word and "th" anywhere are a challenge for her. She also has problems with "t" in a word and "l" at the end, as when she was talking about the "music of the Bea'ews" (Beatles). Poor girl - she seems to be suffering a crisis of consonants. Mind you, that's not all. "Do you know" comes out "Jannah", and "about" is "abah". "Alright" is "awroi'" and "counting down" becomes "cahn'in' dahn". Could this be Irritable Vowel Syndrome? Edited November 20, 2021 by CameronL Added a bit and realised it's Stacey Dooley, not Stacey Solomon (still ""Dahn Sarf"). 1 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted November 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CameronL said: I'm just listening to Stacey Solomon on Radio 2. She comes from Luton, pronunciation is the least of her woes.. Edited November 20, 2021 by chris p bacon Spelin 1 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, chris p bacon said: She comes from Luton, pronounciation is the least of her woes.. Or indeed, pronunciation. 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, gr.king said: Or indeed, pronunciation. Just found this, brilliant. Plenty of discussion on the web why it is pronunciation and not pronounciation, then I find this site and it has a UK based number, tutoring people to speak English: 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronL Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Lest we get too serious - I don't know how he kept a straight face. 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, CameronL said: I'm just listening to Stacey Dooley on Radio 2. She seems to have a real problem with some pronunciation. She read a dedication from someone who was "Travellin' up Norf." Obviously "g" at the end of a word and "th" anywhere are a challenge for her. She also has problems with "t" in a word and "l" at the end, as when she was talking about the "music of the Bea'ews" (Beatles). Poor girl - she seems to be suffering a crisis of consonants. Mind you, that's not all. "Do you know" comes out "Jannah", and "about" is "abah". "Alright" is "awroi'" and "counting down" becomes "cahn'in' dahn". Could this be Irritable Vowel Syndrome? Worst offender is the girl currently doing all the sports coverage on the BBC, Alex Scott. She's now doing a lot of other programmes like The One Show. Can't understand a word half the time and I lived in London for a while! Alright doing "street talk" or having a strong regional accent on a light hearted music programme, but not great when you are trying to describe something that people genuine want to know what is happening. I'm not expecting the presenters all to have RP, but they should be understandable to the listeners. Scottish presenters have been used for decades, but you wouldn't get Rab C Nesbitt to read the news! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Scottish presenters have been used for decades, but you wouldn't get Rab C Nesbitt to read the news! Here is the News, presented by Robert Nesbitt - "See yous, it's pish, Goodnight" 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Worst offender is the girl currently doing all the sports coverage on the BBC, Alex Scott. She's now doing a lot of other programmes like The One Show. Can't understand a word half the time and I lived in London for a while! Alright doing "street talk" or having a strong regional accent on a light hearted music programme, but not great when you are trying to describe something that people genuine want to know what is happening. I'm not expecting the presenters all to have RP, but they should be understandable to the listeners. Scottish presenters have been used for decades, but you wouldn't get Rab C Nesbitt to read the news! Alex Scott does seem to be on the TV rather a lot. Like you, the constant lack of the letter g irritates me. But worst offender? I don't think so. The Home Secretary wins that accolade. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joseph_Pestell said: Alex Scott does seem to be on the TV rather a lot. Like you, the constant lack of the letter g irritates me. But worst offender? I don't think so. The Home Secretary wins that accolade. Television ubiquity can be very irritating even without linguistic quirks, though. Programme planners seem to think anything worth doing deserves over-doing! John 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 9 hours ago, CameronL said: Lest we get too serious - I don't know how he kept a straight face. They don't make 'em like they used to... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted November 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 20/11/2021 at 11:32, CameronL said: I'm just listening to Stacey Dooley on Radio 2. She seems to have a real problem with some pronunciation. She read a dedication from someone who was "Travellin' up Norf." Obviously "g" at the end of a word and "th" anywhere are a challenge for her. She also has problems with "t" in a word and "l" at the end, as when she was talking about the "music of the Bea'ews" (Beatles). Poor girl - she seems to be suffering a crisis of consonants. Mind you, that's not all. "Do you know" comes out "Jannah", and "about" is "abah". "Alright" is "awroi'" and "counting down" becomes "cahn'in' dahn". Could this be Irritable Vowel Syndrome? Was it just me that noticed that she mispronounced one word as 'sex' at some point during the show? It made the sentence a bit wonky! Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2021 23 hours ago, CameronL said: Lest we get too serious - I don't know how he kept a straight face. All apparently in one take. How did the camera crew/director etc, manage to keep going? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted November 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, kevinlms said: All apparently in one take. How did the camera crew/director etc, manage to keep going? The man was an absolute genius. Mike 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, kevinlms said: All apparently in one take. How did the camera crew/director etc, manage to keep going? They got in a German camera crew, and the Gallery was staffed by studio personnel from Radio 4? Problem solved! 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Or there was about fifty takes that we never saw.... Difference is the actors and comedians back then came from either music hall/stage or live radio. They had to get it right first time. It was also that film and video tape was expensive. I saw a quote about the Carry On films where Sid James and Kenneth Williams would turn up, do all their parts in the morning in one take and disappear to the pub or the racing. Then do the radio shows in the afternoon and evening. Half the time it was the "non professionals" that held them up. One of the reasons you got the same people in all the films or shows. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronL Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ikks said: The man was an absolute genius. Mike He even used to write scripts for The Two Ronnies. So that they would be judged on merit he submitted them under the pseudonym "Gerald Wiley". He even rejected one of his own in a script conference to hide his identity. His scripts included "Four Candles". 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Contains mild swearing, but more 9 O'clock BBC Two rather than anything extreme. The Two Ninnies parody https://youtu.be/IbC3Fdv5wKU 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted November 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 20/11/2021 at 14:04, Steamport Southport said: Scottish presenters have been used for decades, but you wouldn't get Rab C Nesbitt to read the news! 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Used to love all that Scottish comedy of the 1980s and 1990s. Especially Naked Video and Absolutely (yeah I know some of the cast were English and Welsh). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2021 That is one of my favourite‘Absolutely’ sketches ever! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 G'Day Folks 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) I think that I now have 12 bikes... Although In my case, It's Old, fat and ugly!! Edited November 22, 2021 by kernowtim 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Chrisr40 said: Does that include Australia, where many people (pre-covid) celebrate Christmas in July, because it is the coldest month and most suited for a large hot roast lunch? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 In the Middle Ages Christmas was a three month party starting on November 11th as the Feast of St Martin and ending on February 2nd (Candlemas). https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/A-Medieval-Christmas/ It was Cromwell that put a stop to that. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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