67A Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 a large backscene of the wind swept moorland covering the wall would really give another edge of atmosephere to this already magnificent layout, and you could bring your reference photos onto the front of the layout, but i digress. well done on the layout mike. Regards, Sam. Hi Sam, All in the planning, however I still have to build some 'Fell-land' over both spirals then a complete wrap around backscene of appropriate Cumbrian moorland totalling approximately 40ft will be fitted end to end. I do agree the pictures now detract from the overall scene and I have deliberately kept them out where possible, but for now they are a source of reference and inspiration so will remain for a while yet, putting them at the front would invariably damage them leaning over to work on the layout. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hi Guys, Sorry, should have added I will be using the photographic backscenes which can be made-up to order. I have already taken a panoramic set of photos which can be 'doctored' to blend together so in effect I could have the correct Backscene relating to Dent itself. Don't ask me who does this, its my friend who told me his was done by request, below is picture of his 'Melwood' layout showing quite a dramatic backscene, bit too many trees on this for me but some enquiries will be made closer to the time. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 That is one fantastic, seamless backscene. :sungum: Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 That is one fantastic, seamless backscene. :sungum: Duncan Believe it or not there is a joint in it! Its the illusion of not having a 90deg. corner which does it, the simple use of 'bendy ply' makes such a difference. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Believe it or not there is a joint in it! Its the illusion of not having a 90deg. corner which does it, the simple use of 'bendy ply' makes such a difference. It's a Friday and you're confusing my brain here! I've only just noticed the curve, it really is brilliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hi Mike, any new pics this weekend mate,even if its only the bits of Signal box on the FLOOR after your first attempt, hahah. All the best with the kit, I'm looking forward to seeing it on my VISIT, hahhaha. Only joking folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Anotheran Posted October 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2014 Don't ask me who does this OK. You've told us not to ask you who does this... So instead I'll ask - when you get the chance, could you ask your friend who does this, and pass on his answer, as that looks amazing! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi Mike, any new pics this weekend mate,even if its only the bits of Signal box on the FLOOR after your first attempt, hahah. All the best with the kit, I'm looking forward to seeing it on my VISIT, hahhaha. Only joking folks Andy, I always thought pester-power related to 'offspring' sadly it seems I'm mistaken! Yes there will be pictures this weekend but NOT of the signalbox, they will be of ????? Hahaha 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Just got home and WAITING, hahhahahhaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 OK. You've told us not to ask you who does this... So instead I'll ask - when you get the chance could you ask your friend who does this, and pass on his answer, as that looks amazing! Hi Neil, You have no idea how hard it is to get a sensible answer from my mate, invariably the answer is 'can't remember' but I will ask when I see him next. I am sure its the manufacturer who supplies the trade with their offerings. What I can you all is Allan was offered a choice of the standard strong paper based print or a sort of linen woven type paper background, he is sorry now that he chose the standard option as with temperature changes some bubbling shows but disappears as the temperature returns to ambient. Here are a few more pictures of Melwood, you may be able to see the curved corners a little easier on these! Hope you like. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold fishytrains Posted October 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2014 Lovely backscene, but the layout photos are also very good. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Stunning layout Can we have some more please Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Stunning layout Can we have some more please Duncan Hi Duncan, Sorry but I don't have any more of Melwood, never got the chance being behind the scenes! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi all, Now for a bit of building, building! Phase 2 of the Bothy build, the sub-structure was detailed earlier. The substructure with the laser-cut windows and doors positioned Another angle As the windows are fitted to the face of the perspex shell I need to 'pack out' the face with 0.040 scrap plasticard to create some relief when the stone cladding is added Any odd bits are saved in an appropriate container for jobs like this My method of ensurin the windows and doors are square before liquid poly is applied The small clamp holds them well Larger faces require larger pieces, the joints allow the cement to flow between each section Back to filling in the gaps The end does not require any packing as it has no windows or doors. This shows the shell fully covered bar the end as described. More to follow.... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Continued... I lay the stone cladding sheet in position to mark the window and door apertures Positions drawn on in pencil All window apertures drilled out with a small size drill bit, but only the top face for the door is prepared this way All roughly cut out Using a file clean up the edges Placing in a vice can assist in ensuring they are squarely finished Fully cleaned up Facing section placed over shell to ensure all is aligned To be continued.... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Continued... Both sections of the frontage now laid over to check positioning Prior to glueing some detail work is required, firstly the stone courses need to be carried through to the side reveal, I do this with a small triangular file The next detail is cills and lintels which are 0.020 strip laid over and fixed with liquid poly Next I give all the sections a coat of Humbrol No.84. I don't fancy getting my very expensive windows covered in stone coloured paint! While it dries you will have to wait until tomorrow for any more! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Just to finish here are a few shots of the WD recently re-motored and being run-in More tomorrow guy's.... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Mike I think I'm going to have to re-read the thread so that I can copy your way of building buildings. The results are far better than anything I've managed to achieve. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Morning Mike, thanks for some great Step by Step pics and descriptions above, you make it look fairly easy, almost the sort of thing that an average person could do. Like Duncan above, I will need to re read and inwardly digest the clear and precise description of the build. Thanks again for that, AND also the lovely shots of the WD running in. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted October 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2014 Nice clean work on the buildings Mike. Can't wait to see them finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Thanks Duncan, Andy & Neil for your comments. I have had many and varied attempts at building buildings beginning with card, timber and Plasticard and have found the Perspex shell is the strongest method yet. I will warn you all its a bu**er to cut and I use a bandsaw but these are very cheap now. You can score deeply and snap but it does not always follow the line! One bonus is you have no glazing to apply but you have to create a reveal as described but I use scrap mainly. The Bothy build will continue later.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted October 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2014 I use a bandsaw but these are very cheap now. Mike Do you need a special blade or a specific speed setting to stop the plastic melting? I've wondered about a scroll saw although I recognise they lack fence for straight cuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Mike Do you need a special blade or a specific speed setting to stop the plastic melting? I've wondered about a scroll saw although I recognise they lack fence for straight cuts. Hi Ray, You would need a fine tooth blade 18tpi or above, I use a 1/2" wide blade for general work and a 1/4" for curved. Speed is not a problem if you take your time! I never use a fence - the cut just wanders off, best following the line by eye in my opinion. Scroll saws are only useful for tightly curved and complex cuts, I don't have a scroll saw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Hi all, To continue the Bothy build... The main sections of Wills Dressed Stone cladding have been painted with Humbrol No.84 and now a few stones have been picked out in various stone shades. As the Bothy was whitewashed in the period modelled I have applied some dry brushed matt white Humbrol No. 34 just enough to allow the stone to show through, a little more may be added when structure complete. All corners are mitred by filing at 45deg. approx' as shown. Fitting the stone cladding to the shell The small area to the bottom corner will be a stairway - in time to come! Rear view The side addition is for a coal store Underside showing construction Hole in baseboard to house the Bothy building Building in position showing the ground area covering the stone for a neat look To be continued.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 And now for some light relief... 8F 48154 has been detailed to set back into the Lye-bye by the signalman BR Mogul 76079 is slowing for the signalbox The signalman is instructing the driver to set back into the Up Lye-bye. Both slow moving freights have now been cleared from the main line Here is the reason for the Up freight being set back, the 1M86 Thames-Clyde Express hauled by BR Sulzer Type 4 D67 'The Royal Artilleryman' is thundering south running 20mins behind schedule. The Leeds crew will undoubtedly make good the deficiency before reaching Leeds. The Down set back was also due to a combined Liverpool and Manchester-Glasgow express hauled by BR 4-6-2 Clan 72009 'Clan Stewart' running only 10 mins behind. Here the Clan is powering northbound passing the stabled freights Here both expresses and closing in Busy day at Dent! The signalman is holding onto everything and the windows are rattling! What would you rather be driving? Continued... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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