davefrk Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) Putting on my pedant's hat and writing under correction from the more knowledgeable modelers who subscribe to this thread, in regard to the third & lowest photo., and if I u'stood. matters concerning 'XP.' stock correctly, they were vacuum-braked and fitted with screw-couplings? Pray advise. Not quite right, BR designed vans such as these had Instanter three link couplings and 1'6'' spindle buffers up until they were later fitted with pneumatic buffers and screw couplings and that was mostly after steam finished. It's a common misconseption and very few BR designed wagons had 1.81/2'' buffers and screw couplings when built, pre 1948 fitted designs did have screw couplings. Dave. Edited May 27, 2018 by davefrk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalspark Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I always knew you were a tightwad.... 'D2' ..learning from the master! D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2018 Not quite right, BR designed vans such as these had Instanter three link couplings and 1'6'' spindle buffers up until they were later fitted with pneumatic buffers and screw couplings and that was mostly after steam finished. It's a common misconseption and very few BR designed wagons had 1.81/2'' and screw couplings when built, pre 1948 fitted designs did have screw couplings. Dave. Plenty XP Vanfits with instanters and spindle buffers still around in the 70s, but as they were overhauled screws and pneumatics were fitted. Of course , by that time the traffic had dwindled and many must have been scrapped with instanters and spindles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2018 Spindle buffers were by far the [referred thing to deal with when faced with buffer locking (12ins:1 ft scale) as all you need to do was knock the pin out at the far (inner) end of the spindle and when you pulled the buffer head and spindle came out with no other damage. When faced with pneumatic and various other self contained buffers the only sensible and quick thing you could do was try to get them off and the only reliable way to do that was to burn off the nuts and then let the assembly get pulled off or run the risk of it coming off too soon and injuring somebody as it dropped. These new fangled modern ideas aren't necessarily as clever as their inventors might have thought 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted May 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2018 Many scrap merchants had a clause inserted whereby some items would be recovered for re-use. 3-link couplings would go to scrap, but the screw shackle would be tested for thread wear, and re-used. In later days, most screw links went as well, it being cheaper to have new, than to run the risk of parting under load. The scrap line at Margam used to keep back all of the front buffers on 08 diesels for 'refurbishment'. I don't know why; once the gas monkey did his work, the buffer was well & truly knackered. Probably it kept him in work. Cheers, Ian. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gallows Close Posted May 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2018 Metro AM8 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7APT7 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Metro AM8 Running Day 25062017 - 5 small.jpg Oh wow, now there are some great memories, class 308 and 312... I think were the same in looks, all slam shut doors, and you could walk down the isles as the seats were from One door (Left side of train) straight through to the other (Right side of train), No toilets, from memory. Great photo... its a shame Bachmann have never released them...! Was this available in kit form, you don't see them often but when I do, the memories are great days out with my dad and brother back in the 1980s Regards Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Good morning Jamie, Oh wow, now there are some great memories, class 308 and 312... I think were the same in looks, all slam shut doors, and you could walk down the isles as the seats were from One door (Left side of train) straight through to the other (Right side of train), No toilets, from memory. Great photo... its a shame Bachmann have never released them...! Was this available in kit form, you don't see them often but when I do, the memories are great days out with my dad and brother back in the 1980s Regards Jamie This is built from the DC Kits range. I too have fond memories of the old slam door stock. I often rode the Class 304, 305 and 308's. The 304's and 305's were running up and down between Stoke-on-Trent and Manchester, and the 308's in their twilight years rumbling around on the Leeds electrified network. Happy days - You would sit down, sink in and almost choke on the dust from the cushions. In motion, everyone's heads would bob in unison to the track joints. Best wishes, Chris. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mrkirtley800 Posted May 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2018 A busy day on Kirkby Malham High Street in June 1908 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 A busy day on Kirkby Malham High Street in June 1908 Good pic Colour in 1908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Good pic Colour in 1908 Though very much in its infancy, colour photography was around by 1908. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrkirtley800 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) You are quite correct, colour pictures in 1908 were invariably in black and white, however the world was in colour and like all the modellers I know, I am trying to make a “living” model of how things were in days gone by. So I try and imagine I am there, which would make me a pretty old bloke by now. Derek Edited May 25, 2018 by Mrkirtley800 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 Are there such things as pretty, old blokes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 If there is, it's not me; i wasn't pretty when I was young, and now I'm just pug ugly. But I must dispute that colour existed in 1908; everybody knows that colour was invented by the Beatles in 1964, and even then was only analogue; real digital colour was invented by Apple when they brought out the original iPhone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Has anyone made a black and white model....?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Has anyone made a black and white model....?! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/134372-a-black-and-white-model-railway/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted May 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2018 Has anyone made a black and white model....?! I need to look at the Goodies. They worked in black & white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Possibly looks better after Mr Frith has turned it into a Postcard. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 If there is, it's not me; i wasn't pretty when I was young, and now I'm just pug ugly. But I must dispute that colour existed in 1908; everybody knows that colour was invented by the Beatles in 1964, and even then was only analogue; real digital colour was invented by Apple when they brought out the original iPhone. Wasn't it Kenny Everett who did the 1st ever radio broadcast in colour? Sadly my radio wasn't good enough.... Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I took these photos a while ago, experimenting with being close up and layers of filters. This photo I meant to upload with my previous photo of the P Class, tried to make it look like a kid had taken a cheeky quick snap from the platform railings. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrkirtley800 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Are there such things as pretty, old blokes ? Yes, I am older than I look.——————————————-or perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Stubby47 Posted May 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2018 A mixed freight eases out from the loading platform at Tinner's Forge. 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 The Cornish Riviera 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) C7A26CB4-E4DB-4386-A0E9-5D29942C27FE.jpeg The Cornish Riviera There are dangers in really good detail photos like that - I bet BR (and definitely the WR) weren't using Pandrol clips in the days when 'Kings' were still working 'The Cornish Riviera' Edited May 28, 2018 by The Stationmaster 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 If there is, it's not me; i wasn't pretty when I was young, and now I'm just pug ugly. But I must dispute that colour existed in 1908; everybody knows that colour was invented by the Beatles in 1964, and even then was only analogue; real digital colour was invented by Apple when they brought out the original iPhone. In 1964 their days and nights were still hard for the Beatles, and so they remained in black and white, but with a little help, they managed to become colourful the year after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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